Riots in Minneapolis

Still deliberately missing the point.
while I don't condone the violence and destruction, I can empathize with the anger that caused it
People are tired of police officers abusing their authority and terrorizing citizens
Did you see the video where an officer shoved an elderly man who was just trying to return a helmet? Cracked the guy's skull
Maybe the police will need to know that America will revolt if they don't stop with the Gestapo tactics

Yes, I saw that footage - it too was very dis-heartening to watch - as it revealed a lack of dignity for every human being - during the Fog of their efforts to follow their orders... As it appeared that they were moving in a tactical formation to clear that street...
It was hardly 'Gestapo'esc' as a standard tactic, technique and procedure to clear the street; which included verbal instructions for all persons to move back accordingly...
To be honest - I was more disturbed that the team leader - fixated upon his teams formation and the next group of protesters who were not complying with the verbal instructions - called in for the unit medic to come forward to tend to the injured old man... rather than allow the guy who realized what had happened - from administering immediate aid to the fallen man...

It absolutely was avoidable... but unfortunately, where humans are involved 'to err is human, to forgive is divine.'

Reminds me of Pat Tillman's accidental death from blue-on-blue fratricide... Where there too (similar to old man), there was no 'intent' to kill him (while there was intent to kill David Dorn) - it was a gross case of negligence in the performance and execution of their units tactics, techniques and procedures... Those individuals involved are accountable... AND instead of rioting and demanding bottom-up change - the services collectively worked harder to improve their training, understanding and risk mitigation associated with their tactics, techniques and procedures... While fratricides have greatly diminished - unfortunately, they will never be without defects...

Speaking of footage - I also saw the video taped killing of Retired Police Chief David Dorn while guarding a facility - was shot and video taped bleeding to death - with no one trying to come to his aid nor calling 911 for assistance... So Sad... Imagine a Country without Law Enforcement... Who are people gonna call?

How about yourself?

We need a civilian oversight committees so police departments can't say...well we investigated ourselves and concluded that we did nothing wrong
also when a police officer does break the law, it shouldn't take days for him to be arrested
If I killed a guy on camera, I would be in police custody within the hour
On Facebook I was saying police officers all across the country demanding the arrest of all four of these officers involved in the killing of George Floyd
This is exactly what America needs. The good cops need to start speaking out and demanding accountability for the bad ones

Yes, I saw that footage - it too was very dis-heartening to watch - as it revealed a lack of dignity for every human being - during the Fog of their efforts to follow their orders... As it appeared that they were moving in a tactical formation to clear that street...
It was hardly 'Gestapo'esc' as a standard tactic, technique and procedure to clear the street; which included verbal instructions for all persons to move back accordingly...
To be honest - I was more disturbed that the team leader - fixated upon his teams formation and the next group of protesters who were not complying with the verbal instructions - called in for the unit medic to come forward to tend to the injured old man... rather than allow the guy who realized what had happened - from administering immediate aid to the fallen man...

It absolutely was avoidable... but unfortunately, where humans are involved 'to err is human, to forgive is divine.'

Reminds me of Pat Tillman's accidental death from blue-on-blue fratricide... Where there too (similar to old man), there was no 'intent' to kill him (while there was intent to kill David Dorn) - it was a gross case of negligence in the performance and execution of their units tactics, techniques and procedures... Those individuals involved are accountable... AND instead of rioting and demanding bottom-up change - the services collectively worked harder to improve their training, understanding and risk mitigation associated with their tactics, techniques and procedures... While fratricides have greatly diminished - unfortunately, they will never be without defects...

Speaking of footage - I also saw the video taped killing of Retired Police Chief David Dorn while guarding a facility - was shot and video taped bleeding to death - with no one trying to come to his aid nor calling 911 for assistance... So Sad... Imagine a Country without Law Enforcement... Who are people gonna call?

''We'', speak for yourself Karl .. The cops are citizens too .. Do you understand what their job really is ? That cops have the highest suicide rate of all professions .. That they still mess up and get sued .. That you could not do better , ever .. LOLOL ..

Yes, I saw that footage - it too was very dis-heartening to watch - as it revealed a lack of dignity for every human being - during the Fog of their efforts to follow their orders... As it appeared that they were moving in a tactical formation to clear that street...
It was hardly 'Gestapo'esc' as a standard tactic, technique and procedure to clear the street; which included verbal instructions for all persons to move back accordingly...
To be honest - I was more disturbed that the team leader - fixated upon his teams formation and the next group of protesters who were not complying with the verbal instructions - called in for the unit medic to come forward to tend to the injured old man... rather than allow the guy who realized what had happened - from administering immediate aid to the fallen man...

It absolutely was avoidable... but unfortunately, where humans are involved 'to err is human, to forgive is divine.'

Reminds me of Pat Tillman's accidental death from blue-on-blue fratricide... Where there too (similar to old man), there was no 'intent' to kill him (while there was intent to kill David Dorn) - it was a gross case of negligence in the performance and execution of their units tactics, techniques and procedures... Those individuals involved are accountable... AND instead of rioting and demanding bottom-up change - the services collectively worked harder to improve their training, understanding and risk mitigation associated with their tactics, techniques and procedures... While fratricides have greatly diminished - unfortunately, they will never be without defects...

Speaking of footage - I also saw the video taped killing of Retired Police Chief David Dorn while guarding a facility - was shot and video taped bleeding to death - with no one trying to come to his aid nor calling 911 for assistance... So Sad... Imagine a Country without Law Enforcement... Who are people gonna call?

You seem to be completely disconnected from reality, especially if you think that wanting police to be held accountable somehow makes me a communist

Do you think I'm racist ? I'm free with liberty until I break ''THE LAW'' not your law, you're an anarchist .. That's what you can't understand and what makes you a PC mind control propaganda police in my eyes .. SMH .. And it's your business, hilarious to watch but it is your business ..

Are you okay, sir?

He seems to be incapable of having a discussion without resorting to ad hominem

''We'', speak for yourself Karl .. The cops are citizens too .. Do you understand what their job really is ? That cops have the highest suicide rate of all professions .. That they still mess up and get sued .. That you could not do better , ever .. LOLOL ..

some of us attempt to have conversations outside of what the mainstream media tells people to think.

you guys seem to only repeat media talking points.

like when some of us mention that many of the protesters are being paid and bused in by organizations like " crowds on demand", you guys have 0 interest in this..

Pat Tillman was murdered .. He was planning on coming home and telling the truth of what was really happening ..

Did you see the video where an officer shoved an elderly man who was just trying to return a helmet? Cracked the guy's skull

I'm interested in the cause behind the riots.
People are tired of police officers terrorizing citizens with impunity

I’m glad to see you support the job law enforcement is doing. We still have a job to do when it comes to weeding out the bad seeds, but we’re getting better.

You’re right about the job taking a toll on the officers, but this is something being addressed more intensely than only 5-10 years back.

Unfortunately officers are still being diagnosed with PTSD, abuse of alcohol and drugs, depression, anxiety, etc, but we have initiated programs for our people to prevent from that to happen.

The tolerance of misconduct in the service is also taken way more serious than before.

I’d say we are on our way to a better police force.

So rest assured, sir, that we are doing our best to protect both side of the aisle at this moment in American history.

Ugh, the crack could be heard when his head hit the sidewalk. What a sickening sound How is he doing?

you do understand that 10 unarmed black men were killed by police ( and that was 10 too many) last year?
i think that is out of about 3 million encounters.

so, is it really worth all the destruction and other injuries and deaths for a thing that is about as likely as being struck by lighting??