Not By Works

Hi DorothyMae.....God is our Father.i can quote scripture if you like?

He can’t let us go DorothyMae....he’s in our spirit.never to leave or forsake us.

A born again can’t throw their faith away.....

I hate to break it to you but everyone I know except one has benefited from the pandemic. Families are spending time together. Commutes that took hours are gone. Eating is confined to home meals saving money. I don’t doubt it negatively affects some but many are very blessed and find the quality of life has improved. Money isn’t everything.

I can quote you scripture where some assume a fatherhood the father doesn’t recognize.

Are you kidding....a born again is biblical,we are his children....he is our Father....sorry but what you say is not true.

God dies not make mistakes

God is not going to give a person ETERNAL life knowing ten years from now that person will give him the finger and say take his gift back

I am not sure why you do not understand god knows everything we will see say and do before we are even born

Maybe you should heed those scriptures

Well I’ll judge my experience by the Word not the other way around. We can disagree though. The Word carries more authority with me.

God appointed Saul King. It failed. He knew it would fail. He knew Samson would fail. I can list for you later the believers described as failing in the faith. Don’t think God prevents failures among men.

Ok.....well....I will leave you to the sword swingers....the truth must be defended....I am now out of here for good.....you are entitled to your belief.....which in my spirit is not truth.....all the best DorothyMae.

That was the word what I said...anyway read my post above.bye.

Yep he knew they would fail

But we are not talking about Kings and he did not promise them ETERNAL anything

So sorry but your reasoning falls flat

ETERNAL is the Jew word that you can not overcome

I don’t feel as you do but it’s your choice. When you find you don’t understand God please blame the theology you embraced not God. I understand God. I know what He does and why and what He doesn’t do and why. I bet no OSAS believers know this.

Actually you go by your impressions above the Biblefrom your posts. If you experienced it, it must be so. You feel God promises you OSAS so it must be for everyone. This did not come from reading the Bible but your feeling. It’s just very shakey ground. New experiences shake it to the core.

Haven't you realized YET, you will never make disciples of YOUR Theology, here?

You’d be surprised. But that’s not my purpose in any case. Never intended to do so. But it is hard to face the arguments against your position, isn’t it?

How many times can a person lose salvation during a lifetime?

Do you believe that people can repent and then be saved again and again, once, twice, five times after they lost salvation? If so, that makes God into a mockery...

Do you believe that they can't ever regain salvation? If so, why warn or preach to them, when they are already a lost cause in disobedience, there is no saving them... Or they are not saved yet to begin with... otherwise why preach.

So many people are in the church just because of their upbringing but they do not fully know Jesus yet, then many become godless at some point. Would you say that these people were all saved and lost salvation, since they professed with their mouth?...

I just want to point at some things I personally see as illogical with salvation loss... This is not trick questions to which I say a-ha! when you are trapped...

Wrong on all charges.

If I am sinless, it is because I believed the gospel and walk in the Spirit.

You describe yourself perfectly.

I have nothing to worry about regarding that but it just seems that irrevocable should mean irrevocable.