Not By Works

[jackrosie]

Stone, Jesus said he came to divide. He also said they’d be those who kill others thinking they are doing God’s will. I can assure you 100% that the killers are not united with their victims but on different sides. You need to see what is there, not the theory.
When did Paul personally give repentance?
There are those who thought and think God is their Father but God has the final say in that. Believing it to be so doesn’t make it so.

I have known His pleasure on my choices. It is a goal worthy of a whole life. Time is more than sufficient. Humility is what is lacking, not time, as well as a love of the truth.

Hi DorothyMae.....God is our Father.i can quote scripture if you like?

 

[jackrosie]

If you leave He let’s you go. If you throw away your faith for something that pleases you better it is lost. Salvation is not a legal agreement.

He can’t let us go DorothyMae....he’s in our spirit.never to leave or forsake us.

A born again can’t throw their faith away.....

 

[DorothyMae]

12 verses stating what we will go through. Right now on my Facebook, I have christian brothers and sisters who are suffering because of this virus and the devastation of losing their source of income. I haven’t seen anyone rail against the Lord.

Am sure we all are being affected in some way.

We have our helper, comforter. And we know that we know we aren’t alone.

We also know who is the cause of suffering.

I hate to break it to you but everyone I know except one has benefited from the pandemic. Families are spending time together. Commutes that took hours are gone. Eating is confined to home meals saving money. I don’t doubt it negatively affects some but many are very blessed and find the quality of life has improved. Money isn’t everything.

 

[DorothyMae]

Hi DorothyMae.....God is our Father.i can quote scripture if you like?

I can quote you scripture where some assume a fatherhood the father doesn’t recognize.

 

[jackrosie]

Experience does not trump the Word of God.

Are you kidding....a born again is biblical,we are his children....he is our Father....sorry but what you say is not true.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If you leave He let’s you go. If you throw away your faith for something that pleases you better it is lost. Salvation is not a legal agreement.

God dies not make mistakes

God is not going to give a person ETERNAL life knowing ten years from now that person will give him the finger and say take his gift back

I am not sure why you do not understand god knows everything we will see say and do before we are even born

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I can quote you scripture where some assume a fatherhood the father doesn’t recognize.

Maybe you should heed those scriptures

 

[DorothyMae]

Are you kidding....a born again is biblical,we are his children....he is our Father....sorry but what you say is not true.

Well I’ll judge my experience by the Word not the other way around. We can disagree though. The Word carries more authority with me.

 

[DorothyMae]

God dies not make mistakes

God is not going to give a person ETERNAL life knowing ten years from now that person will give him the finger and say take his gift back

I am not sure why you do not understand god knows everything we will see say and do before we are even born

God appointed Saul King. It failed. He knew it would fail. He knew Samson would fail. I can list for you later the believers described as failing in the faith. Don’t think God prevents failures among men.

 

[jackrosie]

I can quote you scripture where some assume a fatherhood the father doesn’t recognize.

Ok.....well....I will leave you to the sword swingers....the truth must be defended....I am now out of here for good.....you are entitled to your belief.....which in my spirit is not truth.....all the best DorothyMae.

 

[jackrosie]

Well I’ll judge my experience by the Word not the other way around. We can disagree though. The Word carries more authority with me.

That was the word what I said...anyway read my post above.bye.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

God appointed Saul King. It failed. He knew it would fail. He knew Samson would fail. I can list for you later the believers described as failing in the faith. Don’t think God prevents failures among men.

Yep he knew they would fail

But we are not talking about Kings and he did not promise them ETERNAL anything

So sorry but your reasoning falls flat

ETERNAL is the Jew word that you can not overcome

 

[DorothyMae]

Ok.....well....I will leave you to the sword swingers....the truth must be defended....I am now out of here for good.....you are entitled to your belief.....which in my spirit is not truth.....all the best DorothyMae.

I don’t feel as you do but it’s your choice. When you find you don’t understand God please blame the theology you embraced not God. I understand God. I know what He does and why and what He doesn’t do and why. I bet no OSAS believers know this.

 

[DorothyMae]

That was the word what I said...anyway read my post above.bye.

Actually you go by your impressions above the Biblefrom your posts. If you experienced it, it must be so. You feel God promises you OSAS so it must be for everyone. This did not come from reading the Bible but your feeling. It’s just very shakey ground. New experiences shake it to the core.

 

[VCO]

I can quote you scripture where some assume a fatherhood the father doesn’t recognize.

Haven't you realized YET, you will never make disciples of YOUR Theology, here?

 

[DorothyMae]

Haven't you realized YET, you will never make disciples of YOUR Theology, here?

You’d be surprised. But that’s not my purpose in any case. Never intended to do so. But it is hard to face the arguments against your position, isn’t it?

 

[SoulWeaver]

If you leave He let’s you go. If you throw away your faith for something that pleases you better it is lost. Salvation is not a legal agreement.

How many times can a person lose salvation during a lifetime?

Do you believe that people can repent and then be saved again and again, once, twice, five times after they lost salvation? If so, that makes God into a mockery...

Do you believe that they can't ever regain salvation? If so, why warn or preach to them, when they are already a lost cause in disobedience, there is no saving them... Or they are not saved yet to begin with... otherwise why preach.

So many people are in the church just because of their upbringing but they do not fully know Jesus yet, then many become godless at some point. Would you say that these people were all saved and lost salvation, since they professed with their mouth?...

I just want to point at some things I personally see as illogical with salvation loss... This is not trick questions to which I say a-ha! when you are trapped...

 

[Micaiah-imla]

1. If you are sinless, you no longer need grace
2. if you are sinless. You no longer need God
3. if you are sinless. You have finished the race and no longer need to run
4. if you are sinless. You have surpassed the need to be justified.

Wrong on all charges.

If I am sinless, it is because I believed the gospel and walk in the Spirit.

 

[Duskey]

There are those who thought and think God is their Father but God has the final say in that. Believing it to be so doesn’t make it so.

You describe yourself perfectly.

 

[Duskey]

If you leave He let’s you go. If you throw away your faith for something that pleases you better it is lost. Salvation is not a legal agreement.

I have nothing to worry about regarding that but it just seems that irrevocable should mean irrevocable.