"Antichrist": Broad Deception By Narrow Definition

I have posted about this here before.

My Great grandfather was the ultimate Catholic in those terms. He and the other men member's Used to reenact the stations of the cross. From getting whipped. to actually carrying the Cross! Don't sit here and
give me noise about leaving Jesus. THAT was being faithful. That has been outlawed. Would you ever prove yorself to God in that manor? Not even close...

YOU'RE a Jesuit!

Please understand there are MILLIONS and MILLIONS of good Catholics who don't know anything other than what they've been taught and are going to split the gates of heaven wide open. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUALS - the problem is not them but that the system is blasphemous. The Reformers never condemned anyone either, but they had much to say about the blasphemous doctrines.

Dem's fightin words

LOL

Funny thread. I like your style, but not sure if people get the humor or not. haha

I think they're still testing and building infrastructure, but they are getting really close. Unreal! In Sweeden they are doing some serious testing right now. Can't look at the craziness, or you will go crazy. Focus on God.

I think it's game over in 2030 (just a guess), but what do you think?

Please read a book or use the internet to learn something about the British History and the Royal family. Britain left the Roman Empire
in 410AD. The Romans returned to Italy to defend Rome against the invading Goths and Vandals they never came back. After that
the Country was divided up into several kingdoms so there was no 'British Royal Family'. for some time.

Thanks for the correction. Britain was part of the Roman Empire and the British Royal Family are in control of Britain. Can we agree on the retraction?

I actually did spend a couple days learning about the British Royal Family, it was interesting.

Looks like I'm not the only one who needs to study...Just saying.

Sorry, I meant to quote this.

Hey Ahwatukee,

I totally agree with 2 Timothy 2:4, which is the very reason why I keep challenging the pre-trib rapture teaching. There is no specific verse saying that the Body of Christ will be taken up before the Great Tribulation. Not only that, but hopping around in scripture in hopes of proving it. There's a difference when we actually read scripture for Truth and as a lens to expound on things to come, instead of reading through the lens of false doctrines into scripture. Context!

It doesn't make sense to think that Matthew 24 was written to just the Jews. Not only that, but Paul warned the "Gentile" church/congregation (Thessalonians) about the "Falling Away" and the "Son of Perdition." Why go through the trouble of warning them? The real church started with Jesus and the Apostles going out to share the Good News, through the Great Commission. Paul's ministry was to the Gentiles, and there was ministry to Israel. Still the same message!

It doesn't make sense to make a distinction between the body of believers when scripture clearly said that there is none. We are either of the Body of Christ, or not.

1 Corinthians 12:12-13
(12) For just as the body is one but has many parts; and all the parts of the body, though many, constitute one body; so it is with the Messiah.
(13) For it was by one Spirit that we were all immersed into one body, whether Jews or Gentiles, slaves or free; and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.

I simply don't agree that a certain group of believers will get a hall pass out of here through escapism.

It's a slap in the face for those that are undergoing persecution and death for Jesus. I don't think the teaching of pre-trib would hold up in the circumstances that they were in... The Word warned us of the spirit of antichrist, many antichrists, and the antichrist (1 John 2:14; 18; 4:3). History proves this.

Believing in the pre-trib is deceiving in the sense that we aren't preparing ourselves. What's better, to be prepared, or not? What's more dangerous? Knowing what the Word told us what would happen, or assuming that we will escape? Personally I think it's better to prepare ourselves to die for the faith and to heed the warnings that were given to us about the antichrist and the mark of the beast. Might or might not happen during our lifetime, but we do know that it will happen because the Word told us.

Once again I wouldn't want the Body of Christ to be caught with their pants down.

Then I saw thrones, and those seated on them received authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for testifying about Yeshua and proclaiming the Word of God, also those who had not worshipped the beast or its image and had not received the mark on their foreheads and on their hands. They came to life and ruled with the Messiah for a thousand years. (Revelation 20:4)

So we can keep debating this, but I rather warn others to not be deceived. Read scripture for yourself and trust in God to reveal it to us. Don't depend on man for answers, and definitely don't just take my word for it. Do what the Bereans did.

All the years in the world doesn't mean anything if we go based upon our own understanding. If a little bit of poison is being read into the Word, then it is tainted from us being able to fully understand the context of what it clearly expounds on.

Done debating this subject and just got a question. Do you believe Jesus came in the flesh and is the Son of God?

actually, it appeared that you were saying the Catholic church used to be run by bad folks from time to time, but now is a paragon of virtue - I assure you, that exoteric doctrine for you who want to see only the good in your church, but the esoteric doctrine reserved only for the highest levels of church authority is Luciferian.

LOL, Rush Limbaugh says the best way to demonstrate absurdity is to be absurd. The ability to show the inconsistent, unBiblical nature of Jesuit Preterism and Jesuit "Left Behind" Futurism comes from God's Word, but many refuse to let go of cherished Jesuit beliefs, sadly.

According to the prophetic timeline, the end is near. So many signs of the times testify to that. Not since the Tower of Babel has the devil been so close to world domination. Technological advancements, widespread spiritual confusion - spearheaded by the papal Antichrist in Rome - which is unparalleled since the time of Christ's first advent, papal-controlled secret Luciferian society members which hold high positions of authority everywhere, and social programming and engineering via a massive satanic media megalith are all being used to set the stage for the final grand deception - Satan's impersonation of Christ. Anyone who chooses to continue in Jesuit lies about a future Antichrist after hearing the Biblical truth of Protestant Historicism places themselves on dangerous ground.

Can you explain this? I think what you are saying is that, you don't believe like an imposter christ will come.

Do you take medication for your condition?

This was incredibly rude by the way.

Agree with you Truthseeker.

Pre-trib rapture doctrine is a fairly tale, but that's just my take on it. Now will some be lifted up before the end? It's possible.

Mathew 17:13

And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.

Hey Kinda,

We'll see! Looking forward to seeing the King of Kings (Yeshua/Jesus); even if we have to go through tribulation and death. Our bodies are temporary anyway and there's better things to come.

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. (Matthew 10:28)

Didn't Luther think that he was in the Laodecaen age of the church? This is one of the problems with Historicism, each generation has to move the goal posts and reapply all the church ages. Anyone's interpretation is as good as another's and none have authority.

Joking. He knows that I am. But thanks for pointing it out. If I was serious I would deserve the rebuke.