Do all children get raptured?

Fear is of the enemy
peace is of the lord
we have peace because of him
he is a guide into our lives
not just ours but the children as well
do you think he will fall short because you are not there
he is the father of orphans
he is the great and mighty God who knows every hair
I find peace because of him
my trust in the world
i have none
so my trust is not in the world but in him who overcame the world

Simploe, there is no need whatsoever to be worried. Our Maker does not harm the innocent ever.......

1 Cor 7:14.......

Thanks for your reply. Could you perhaps post a couple of verses for children getting eternal life automatically because their parents believe. Thanks, and go well.

I think you will find that the word "such" refers NOt to automatic entry into the Kingdom, but that we adults must develope child-like attributes of trust, faith and meekness. The Bible is clear. Salvation needs tow things. (i) To believe in the finished work of Christ, and (ii) to confess Him as the Son of God. A two year old cannot do this sincerely.

Because at the birth of the Savior, all children 2 years and younger in the region of Bethlehem were murdered. It is nice to think that God is Who we like to think He is, but He does allow certain things to happen in Satan's realm. I think the OP posed a valid question, don't you?

These are nice sentiments, but the WHO (if you can trust them), reports that there are between 40 and 50 million abortions a year on earth - that is, 125,000 children are murdered a day just in this case. We must rememeber that while God is sovereign and good, there is somebody who Jesus called "Prince of THIS world". I think we SHOULD worry about our children.

It is a valid question, but a believer can have confidence that their children who are too young to believe for themselves are saved.

I understand your worry. The Bible does not make a distinction between children and adults for the rapture. However, when someone is able to repent and believe in the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ for their salvation then they should do that. Children who are incapable of making these sorts of decisions seem like they are incapable of being accountable for their actions. It is my belief that God is good and righteous and will make exceptions for children who cannot decide yet.

The way you worded your question suggests you believe in the rapture occuring before the tribulation. While it would be nice to escape the tribulation, I think the Bible is clear that there will come a time where we as Christians will have to endure tribulation.

What I recommend is that you come to your own conclusion. Take some time to study eschatology: look at evidence for and against pre-tribulation rapture and the evidence for and against post-tribulation rapture and decide for yourself what's coming. A good place to start is Matthew 24, paying close attention to verses 29-31.

It is my belief that that rapture does occur after the tribulation, meaning that we should focus on endurance and unmoving faith in Christ as we buckle down for what's coming. God bless.

My response is perfectly fine to the best of my belief and understanding. I do know that many would think I suffered much in my childhood before my recollection, yet I did not and do not remember any of it. God protects the very young. Remember, come the final Trump all will be gone in the fire......

And that is exactly why I said what I said.

You'll have to show scripture for this. It's a nice thought but having your sin and sins put away and rebirth to be a son of God, and to have eternal life is based on faith into, and confession of the mouth.

I think scripture should settle it. I'll be happy with just two verses that guarantee a child atonement for its sin and sins, rebirth, and eternal life.

As in my previous two posts. Let us settle it with scripture. Two or more witnesses are required to establish something.

Go well bro.

Scripture has already settled it. You are simply trying to stir the pot.

Your biggest problem is believing in a "rapture" that is found no where in the Bible. People quote 1 Thess. 4:17 all the time, but the verb harpazo is not translated as the noun "rapture." Feel free, anyone to challenge me and then we can take a good look at what the Greek actually says.

This pre-trib stuff is all nonsense. Jesus has said he would return ONCE - its called the Second Coming for a reason. Because Jesus comes only twice, not an invisible time to so-called "rapture" the church.

Further, this whole rapture scenario then grabs verses out of context, in Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation, and twists them and literally interprets them. I am reading Revelation in Koine Greek right now, and it sure does not say what I have read these confused dispies say.

Many people here have said you need to trust God. I know that is hard when you have been scared into believing a false doctrine like the rapture. Look up Amill and post mill. Study all the viewpoints. Don't listen to some preacher with an agenda on youtube like John Hagee ranting and raving, predicting the end over and over based on some "sign" that never happens. And beware of any preacher teaching this. There are actually 4 end time views (including historical premill, which is a lot different than Dispensationalism.) Study them and see which makes more sense.

Is Jesus ruling with us on the earth or some imaginary trip to a heaven ABOVE us? (heaven could be in a parallel universe, for all we know! Not saying it is, but the Bible never says where heaven was located.)

And no, I am not a JW! I believe in the Trinity and the deity of Christ. But, I have studied the Bible for 40 years, including formally. I know a lot of people who have studied and know Greek and Hebrew, most of us have concluding the rapture and going to heaven is folk theology. The better approach is the Amillennial position, which most of my Baptists friends and pastors believe. I've read the Bible over 50 times, including the NT in Koine Greek and many books in the OT in Hebrew. The message of the Bible is one of hope - of Jesus redeeming all his people, no Plan B for the Jews. Of Jesus Second Coming and no millennium. So if the message is one of hope, why are you living in fear?

Good hermeneutics requires that a topic as important as eschatology or end times is found in more than one place in the Bible. The Millennium is only mentioned in one chapter in the Bible - Rev. 20. That is simply not enough to develop an important doctrine. And 6 times is still in the same place is still not a go.

Biblical Hebrew does not have words for million, billion or infinity. A thousand just means a very large number. No 1000 year reign. So, fear not, God is sovereign and in control. He will not be unjust towards your children or any children.

The Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Church -- in fact the Resurrection/Rapture of the Church -- is one of the key doctrines of Scripture. It is definitely not nonsense, and Christ Himself revealed this doctrine before His crucifixion. And if believers are raptured, so are all those who are unable to respond to the Gospel (little children, the mentally deficient, etc)

JOHN 14: I WILL COME AGAIN AND RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

This is definitely NOT the same as the Second Coming of Christ with all His saints and angels:

2 THESSALONIANS 1: TAKING VENGEANCE UPON HIS ENEMIES
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

In this case it is my joy to "stir the pot." If there was scripture that plainly said that children are automatically believers FOR ANY REASON, you, and others, would have quoted it. I now propose (hoping not to stir the pot too much) that any attempt to attribute salvation OTHER than by FAITH and CONFESSION in Jesus Christ and His Work is a STRANGE DOCTRINE.

Romans 7:9 -

"And I once was alive apart from Law; but the commandment having come, the sin revived, and I died"



...but this gets back to what I'd said a few days ago (again):

--Romans 1 thru 5:11 = "sinS" [the "sinS" we commit... ; sinS of commission and omission...]

--Romans 5:12 thru chpt 8 end = "Sin" [and in this particular verse, "the Sin"]

I'm not sure "how so"[?]


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