Trump Outsmarts them again

If youd stayed away from me?

Big Smiles!

I will continue to expose you as a progressive liberal, that is voting in Nov for progressive liberal Joe Biden.

which has less than zero to do with the discussion at hand. he was not 100% right either but I had respect for him

besides, here you are debating away

You bet hospital systems are in it for $profit$

Taking x-rays not needed, lab testing, excessive hospital stays, releases 10 minutes after bed counts on and on

Any argument against the facts are laughable.

You have already exposed your character for everyone to see. It’s far worse than a liberal.

Since the onset of the coronavirus outbreak, a vaccine has been widely regarded as the best path toward reopening society and returning to normalcy. Scientists have worked around-the-clock to develop a vaccine even entering late-stage human studies at record speed for the disease that has killed more than 430,000 people worldwide.

Yet, despite these Herculean efforts, scientists say a one-time cure-all is unlikely. Data on close cousins of the COVID-19 virus, including seasonal coronaviruses that cause the common cold, suggests the COVID-19 vaccine probably won't offer lifelong protection -- although more research is needed to understand how well and for how long a potential vaccine could work.

more here


It's a problem significant enough to worry Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, who has been excited at the chance of developing a vaccine, but hesitant to predict how long it might work.

"When you look at the history of coronaviruses, the common coronaviruses that cause the common cold, the reports in the literature are that the durability of immunity that is protective ranges from three to six months to almost always less than a year," Dr. Fauci said in an interview with JAMA Editor Howard Bauchner.

"That's not a lot of durability and protection," Fauci said.

ooops

Coming from you it's considered a compliment, keep it coming

Bro, you're dealing with a "conservative" who has made her avatar with an "arch" saying "u my friend" in rainbow colors. Just an observation, I mean she made it, or at least uses it.

I don't think you're ever going to engage in profitable discussion with this person. It's like light and darkness trying to have fellowship, 2 Corinthians 6:14. You know her values are not light, complete waste of your time and energy.

And then this happened...
Moderna coronavirus vaccine shows 'promising' safety and immune response results in published Phase 1 study,


This just in... https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/health/moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-phase-1-study/index.html

Indeed. A very interesting observation my friend.

First thing I took note of after she began belittling my Christian and conservative position and noting how she's attacked and ridiculed other conservative Christians as well. Now I just read her posts once in a while and don't waste any energy responding to them. Why bother? She's just chumming the waters hoping someone bites.

I agree, a progressive liberal with a claim I voted for Trump in 2016, and has now found salvation in Joe Biden 2020

I will continue to respond, and oppose the progressive liberal "Fake News" narratives

Trump/Pence 2020

More power to you then bro!

The persistent accusations of "Russian trolls" were telling. Right out of the Hillary Clinton playbook.

President Trump is blessed by God. Everyone must submit themselves to his authority.

Romans 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

Anyone who goes against President Trump is going against God. And, they will surely fail.

Proverbs 21:30 There is no wisdom and no understanding and no counsel against the Lord

I guess you didn't read the actual medical concerns of people who understand the science here

there are no fail proof vaccines and even in a good year, there is only about 50% protection and in most years, 30%

phase 1? so you just stay in your home then for the next 2 years or more and even then, no promises


I wish people would actually read the actual articles by people who have science to back them up instead of trying to score points . this isn't about points. it does seem to be about a gullible public being song to sleep by false promises

and by the way scribe? are you trying to be deceptive here to make it seem like only you know anything? the actual title of the article has been left out by you
but more research is needed

do you know how the word 'promising' is used? it's a phrase seeming to be positive when no research indicates it is a sure thing

pass the kool aid

Speculation before the testing of the vaccines, and how we have to be prepared for ineffectiveness and historical results of past flu vaccines is all understandable and has it's value in a discussion prior to testing results of COVID vaccines. Then the testing is completed and the results that we were waiting for come in and when they are as positive as these results are, it is time to discuss those positive results and their implications rather than continuing to discuss possible ineffective rates which turned out not to be the case with this vaccine in the article. All subjects resulted in desired immunities with no adverse affects other than the normal immunity reaction symptoms, fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, pain at the site of the injection. Now we can celebrate the positive results and start discussing those rather than continuing speculating about ineffectiveness which turned out to NOTbe the case. Your data had relevance in it's context, before the Morderna mRNA Phase 1 and 2 testing, now we have these results to be exited about. This is NOT the flu. It is NOT the flu vaccine. mRNA is not the same as the traditional flu vaccine. Everything is not comparable to past flu vaccines. We have already crossed over the milestone of whether it will work. That is the exiting part of this report.

Also another vaccine being developed by Pfizer and BioNTech.
Earlier this week, a study (which has yet to be peer-reviewed) from both companies pointed out that the vaccine demonstrated it was safe and produced an immune response in patients, while also showing a high-level of T-cell responses against the novel coronavirus. Data were collected from 60 healthy patients in a trial that took place in Germany, according to a company statement.
The first dosing of the BNT162 vaccine program began in Germany in early May, Fox News previously reported.

I am sure you can find more technical information on this one but as I understand it high-level T-cell responses equates to the immune system being able to create the antibodies even at later time if the virus is detected. In other words the question as to how long the immunity last after a shot is not as much of an issue. The T-cell have the memory to create the antibody when needed later even after the initial immunity boost has faded. These are the kinds of test results that changes the conversation from "we don't know if it will last" to "Looks like it will last" Praise God!

I maybe getting too exited too early but I am projecting an end to this crisis by next year. Oh people will keep getting sick for years but they will be people who don't want to get the vaccine. The vaccinated can go back to life as normal. Woo Hoooo. Probably going to be available by January or Feb. That is what I am hoping for. I want to start preaching the Gospel in the Jails.

I’m glad you consider it a compliment. It’s probably one of the nicest things to be said about you.

Judging from how you’re treating others here, your words carry no weight. I will be praying for you.

And you’re gonna vote for? Trudeau😁?

Another Successful Vaccine.

The early results of Oxford University and AstraZeneca’s coronavirus vaccine trial showed “robust” immune system responses, according to the pharmaceutical firm.


“COVID-19 vaccine AZD1222 showed robust immune responses in all participants in phase I/II trial,” said AstraZeneca in an emailed statement.

Some 1,077 people took part in the study of AZD1222, which is also known as ChAdOx1 nCoV-19. About half of the participants received the experimental vaccine.

UK CORONAVIRUS VACCINE TRIAL IS 'PROGRESSING VERY WELL,' RECRUITING CHILDREN AND OLDER ADULTS

In the research, scientists said that they found their experimental COVID-19 vaccine produced a dual immune response in people aged 18 to 55. Dr. Adrian Hill, director of the Jenner Institute at Oxford University, said neutralizing antibodies were produced by the vaccine candidate.

In addition, the vaccine also causes a reaction in the body's T-cells, which help to fight off the coronavirus.

“We are seeing good immune response in almost everybody,” said Dr. Hill. “What this vaccine does particularly well is trigger both arms of the immune system.”

Reported side effects from the trial include feeling tired, headaches, muscle aches, chills and fever. No serious side effects were noted.

Further evaluation of the vaccine is being undertaken. “ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 showed an acceptable safety profile, and homologous boosting increased antibody responses,” the researchers wrote, in the study. “These results, together with the induction of both humoral and cellular immune responses, support largescale evaluation of this candidate vaccine in an ongoing phase 3 program.”

The results of the research are published in The Lancet medical journal.