LET THE WOMAN LEARN IN SILENCE - WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS MEANS?

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SoulWeaver

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Exactly!

Women fighting for a place at the pulpit is nothing more than rebellion towards God and his authority, you hit the nail in the head!
There was not a pulpit in the early church to begin with, people orderly spoke and taught and prophesied.
Guess who introduced the pulpit?
 

Truth7t7

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But the NIV Bible is using the word “Deacon” in Romans 16:1. Is your position that the KJV is more accurate?
My KJV has Matthew 17:21, 18:11, Acts 8:37, Romans 16:24, are they found in your NIV book? :)
 
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Susanna

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My KJV has Matthew 17:21, 18:11, Acts 8:37, Romans 16:24, are they found in your NIV book? :)
It’s not my book. It’s the Holy Bible. Can you answer the question?
 
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lenna

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Exactly!

Women fighting for a place at the pulpit is nothing more than rebellion towards God and his authority, you hit the nail in the head!
appeal to an audience

sad
 
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lenna

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My KJV has Matthew 17:21, 18:11, Acts 8:37, Romans 16:24, are they found in your NIV book? :)
don't tell me! you a king Jimmy only guy on top of it?

perfect. just perfect. :rolleyes:
 

Truth7t7

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But the NIV Bible is using the word “Deacon” in Romans 16:1. Is your position that the KJV is more accurate?
Novum Testamentum Graece is a (Greek Translation) created by 5 people behind closed doors, all new versions follow this translation, NIV, NASB, ESV, etc

Who was (Kurt Aland), (Barbara Ehlers Aland), Jesuit Cardinal, (Carlo Maria Martini), three of the five behind these doors?
 
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lenna

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Novum Testamentum Graece is a (Greek Translation) created by 5 people behind closed doors, all new versions follow this translation, NIV, NASB, ESV, etc

Who was Kurt Aland, Barbara Ehlers Aland, Jesuit Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, three of the five behind these doors?
so King Jimmy, right?
 
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Susanna

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Novum Testamentum Graece is a (Greek Translation) created by 5 people behind closed doors, all new versions follow this translation, NIV, NASB, ESV, etc

Who was (Kurt Aland), (Barbara Ehlers Aland), Jesuit Cardinal, (Carlo Maria Martini), three of the five behind these doors?
You’re not answering the question.
 
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Exactly!

Women fighting for a place at the pulpit is nothing more than rebellion towards God and his authority, you hit the nail in the head!
I guess.
I really do not want to hit any nails.
I just want truth and peace and the blessing that comes in submitting ourselves to God.
All of this struggle is grief to my heart
I really wish people would soften themselves towards one another.
Because this really sucks.
 

Truth7t7

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You’re not answering the question.
Novum Testamentum Graece is a (Greek Translation) created by 5 people behind closed doors, all new versions follow this translation, NIV, NASB, ESV, etc

(Kurt Aland) was the committee leader, he divorced his wife (Ingeborg Aland) and three children, and ran off with and married his college student (Barbara Ehlers Aland) with Kurt being 22 years her senior (Adultery)

Roman Catholic Jesuit Cardinal, (Carlo Maria Martini) was a liberal on the committee, promoting same sex marriage and homosexuality.

Did God preserve his words through these three people, Real Big Smiles! :eek:
 

Truth7t7

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I guess.
I really do not want to hit any nails.
I just want truth and peace and the blessing that comes in submitting ourselves to God.
All of this struggle is grief to my heart
I really wish people would soften themselves towards one another.
Because this really sucks.
So long as Satan is present, there will be no rest.

Ephesians 6:10-12KJV
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
 
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So long as Satan is present, there will be no rest.

Ephesians 6:10-12KJV
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
You think that is what you are doing?
 

Truth7t7

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You think that is what you are doing?
I put on the armour of God daily, as every Christian should do.

It's not about let's all hold hands and skip down the road into the kingdom, there is a spiritual battle going on between good and evil, are you blind?
 

SoulWeaver

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Novum Testamentum Graece is a (Greek Translation) created by 5 people behind closed doors, all new versions follow this translation, NIV, NASB, ESV, etc

Who was (Kurt Aland), (Barbara Ehlers Aland), Jesuit Cardinal, (Carlo Maria Martini), three of the five behind these doors?
What about the ancient Greek original that I posted?
 
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I put on the armour of God daily, as every Christian should do.

It's not about let's all hold hands and skip down the road into the kingdom, there is a spiritual battle going on between good and evil, are you blind?
Above all else, put on love, because love covers a multitude of sins.
 

Truth7t7

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What about the ancient Greek original that I posted?
Novum Testamentum Graece is a (Greek Translation) created by 5 people behind closed doors,

all new versions follow this translation, NIV, NASB, ESV, etc

(Kurt Aland) was the committee leader, he divorced his wife (Ingeborg Aland) and three children, and ran off with and married his college student (Barbara Ehlers Aland) with Kurt being 22 years her senior (Adultery)

Roman Catholic Jesuit Cardinal, (Carlo Maria Martini) was a liberal on the committee, promoting same sex marriage and homosexuality.

Did God preserve his words through these three people, Real Big Smiles! :eek:
 

Truth7t7

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Above all else, put on love, because love covers a multitude of sins.
Your dream of love and holding hands isn't reality when faced with the evils of Satan and his followers.

Did Jesus Christ below give hugs and words of love to the Scribes and Pharisees below?

He spoke truth in condemnation of the evil :eek:

Matthew 23:13-32KJV
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
 

SoulWeaver

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Novum Testamentum Graece is a (Greek Translation) created by 5 people behind closed doors,

all new versions follow this translation, NIV, NASB, ESV, etc

(Kurt Aland) was the committee leader, he divorced his wife (Ingeborg Aland) and three children, and ran off with and married his college student (Barbara Ehlers Aland) with Kurt being 22 years her senior (Adultery)

Roman Catholic Jesuit Cardinal, (Carlo Maria Martini) was a liberal on the committee, promoting same sex marriage and homosexuality.

Did God preserve his words through these three people, Real Big Smiles! :eek:
Romans 16:1

Stephens 1550 Textus Receptus
sunisthmi de umin foibhn thn adelfhn hmwn ousan diakonon thV ekklhsiaV thV en kegcreaiV

Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus
sunisthmi de umin foibhn thn adelfhn hmwn ousan diakonon thV ekklhsiaV thV en kegcreaiV

Byzantine Majority
sunisthmi de umin foibhn thn adelfhn hmwn ousan diakonon thV ekklhsiaV thV en kegcreaiV

Alexandrian
sunisthmi de umin foibhn thn adelfhn hmwn ousan [kai] diakonon thV ekklhsiaV thV en kegcreaiV

Hort and Westcott
sunisthmi de umin foibhn thn adelfhn hmwn ousan kai diakonon thV ekklhsiaV thV en kegcreaiV
 
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Your dream of love and holding hands isn't reality when faced with the evils of Satan and his followers.

Did Jesus Christ below give hugs and words of love to the Scribes and Pharisees below?

He spoke truth in condemnation of the evil :eek:

Matthew 23:13-32KJV
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Speak the truth in love.