Today’s church’s misunderstandings

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Blik said:
Right on!

Scripture also doesn't tell us that Cain and Abel knew it requires blood for the forgiveness of sin, Christ's blood even symbolically by the blood of animals. Cain used his own work for forgiveness of sin and that didn't work, Abel obeyed. God is eternal and His ways are eternal.
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When I look at the story of Adam and Eve God teaches Adam and Eve about Salvation through the killing of a sacrifice.

Gen 3:21 Also for Adam and his wife the LORD God made tunics of skin, and clothed them.

By killing the sacrifice he made tunics of skin and clothed their nakedness Just as Jesus covers our sin.

They understood that this was a covering for their sin. And that it pointed to the "seed" i.e Jesus.
 
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tourist said:
God said to remember to keep holy the Sabbath. Wrote the command on a stone tablet with His finger. I don't believer that God used His eraser to remove that commandment. That is the only commandment that we are told to Remember.
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Told who ? Gentiles in 2020 ?
 
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Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Messiah. ​
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That is what I said. They met in the synagogue on the Jewish sabbath because they did not stop being Jews, and they met daily in the evening to share a meal together to ensure even the poorest had a meal that day.
 
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posthuman said:
oh, all those post-SDA-era books you were talking about?

so you've got zero evidence, just people writing in the 20th century their opinions.

thanks; that's what i thought.
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We are going round in circles and as that gives me a headache, so I will let any further comments go through to the keeper.
 
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When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. ​
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an 8th day, which is also a 1st day.
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Gone through to the keeper as it is of no consequence.
 
mustaphadrink

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what day is a priest accepted?
what day was the temple dedicated?
what day is circumcision performed?
what day is firstfruits?
what day is shavuot?
what day is the feast of tabernacles?
what day is a firstborn given to the LORD?
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What anything? I don't play trivial pursuit.
 
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mustaphadrink said:
That is what I said. They met in the synagogue on the Jewish sabbath because they did not stop being Jews, and they met daily in the evening to share a meal together to ensure even the poorest had a meal that day.
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day after day, in the temple courts
(Acts 5:42)​
 
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mustaphadrink said:
I stopped playing childish word puzzles a long time ago.
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uh huh. that's probably why your argument against mounds of historical evidence is that the number line doesn't go past 7, why you claim to have done a PHD thesis on church history but can't cite a single historical church source to support your positions and act like you've never heard of nearly ubiquitous theological premises for the first thousand years of the church, and why you keep replying with nonsense to valid points from scripture just to 'let me know that you're not going to reply'

am sure.
 
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posthuman said:
uh huh. that's probably why your argument against mounds of historical evidence is that the number line doesn't go past 7, why you claim to have done a PHD thesis on church history but can't cite a single historical church source to support your positions and act like you've never heard of nearly ubiquitous theological premises for the first thousand years of the church, and why you keep replying with nonsense to valid points from scripture just to 'let me know that you're not going to reply'

am sure.
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Allow me to translate @mustaphadrink:

What an ironic comment for you to make, considering your pedantry and the vaporous nature of your argumentation in this thread.
 
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There is little written in our bibles today about Nimrod except he was a mighty man, and he is connected with the tower of Babel. In the extra books of the bible that had been considered scripture in the past, if you consider them history, it tells of Nimrod establishing the sun as a God and naming that day Sunday. Some people do not consider this history. However, ancient people named the days of the week for their gods, so Monday is for the moon god, etc. Sunday is for the sun god. Saturday is named for Saturn.

Constantine had worshipped the sun God, he put a picture of this god on a coin.
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Blik said:
In the same way, ex idol worshippers met on the day they had always met. They formerly met on Sunday to worship the sun god.
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By this logic, worshiping God on any given day - Saturday included - is then pagan worship... you can't have it both ways...
Call it Saturday or Sabbath, still the SAME WEEKDAY, just different moniker... not sure if you're realizing that you claim every day in the week for pagan gods by insisting on this argument.
As for me, I'm not going to look what some pagans did 2000+ yrs ago, I worship God every day
 
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laymen said:
Bible Tells us The Law was add because of sin. Gal 3:19
"It was added because of transgressions"

The Holy Bible: King James Version. (2009). (Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version., Ga 3:19). Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
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I'm sorry but your argument still makes no sense. You cannot say that God instituted the sabbath for mankind at creation when there is zero biblical evidence. All you have is your theories.....again Abraham, Isaac, Jacob never kept the sabbath.....

I would love for anyone of you sabbath keepers to please tell me how you peraonally keep the sabbath day holy? ........what do you do/not do on Saturday different than Monday???
 
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tourist said:
I believe so, the 4th commandment is the only one that we are instructed to 'remember'.
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Can you show me where "WE" 2020 gentiles are instructed to remember the sabbath?

If so, how should we remember it? What should we do to keep this day holy?
 
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AlmondJoy said:
I'm sorry but your argument still makes no sense. You cannot say that God instituted the sabbath for mankind at creation when there is zero biblical evidence. All you have is your theories.....again Abraham, Isaac, Jacob never kept the sabbath.....

I would love for anyone of you sabbath keepers to please tell me how you peraonally keep the sabbath day holy? ........what do you do/not do on Saturday different than Monday???
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AlmondJoy said:
I would love for anyone of you sabbath keepers to please tell me how you personally keep the sabbath day holy? ........what do you do/not do on Saturday different than Monday???
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I keep the Sabbath with Grace though the Faith in Jesus.

Anyways this question smells of bate^^^^^


Pr 16:9 A man’s heart plans his way,
But the LORD directs his steps.


The New King James Version. (1982). (Pr 16:9). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
 
laymen

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AlmondJoy said:
Can you show me where "WE" 2020 gentiles are instructed to remember the sabbath?

If so, how should we remember it? What should we do to keep this day holy?
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And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

The Holy Bible: King James Version. (1995). (electronic ed. of the 1769 edition of the 1611 Authorized Version., Mk 2:27). Bellingham WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

Its a day to remember for all man kind.
 
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