ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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What's so frightening about it all is that we have come to believe there is an independent press. There is not. They're all owned and we are propagandized constantly. This video proves it: https://haveyenotread.com/the-news-media-mind-control-and-the-myth-of-the-free-press/

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There is no independent press in the US as the mass news and social media is controlled by radical far-left radicals. Trump got that right, it is all contrived fake news heavily biased against those that hold firm to Christian biblical principals. Freedom of religion, particularly Christianity, is being eroded by the day.
 
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We go through all the channels to watch the news without discrimination and nobody is talking about it. Husband watches the news morning and evening almost every day. I don't watch shows besides the news and we mainly watch the news because of the weather. If it was up to me and not for the weather, TV would be thrown off a cliff useless propaganda mongers ALL of them are
I know you do, most do not.
If I see any unbiased reporting on the effects of the vaccine and not propaganda of Bill Gates is trying to kill us all I will send you the information.

We are not yet at a place where information can be suppressed, the vaccine has not even been distributed to those outside the trials.
I think information on these vaccines can only be found in medical journals not on TV presently.
 

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Well first of all, I have made it clear that the RFID chip is going to evolve into something smaller and more applicable. What is going to remain consistent, is that whatever it evolves into, will be in the hand or the forehead. A Quantum Dot does not remain in the hand or the forehead. So, we have to stay with the information that scripture provides. That said, the right hand or forehead is not a temporary location nor is it a one-time entry point.

The mark, whatever it turns out to be, will replace the swiping of cards, cell phone bank apps and whatever else there is that allows you to credit and debit your bank account.

I have been following this mark of the beast technology from when the first ATM's came out, which was followed by the Universal Product Code (UPC), then the Point of Sale system (POS) and now people in Sweden are having the RFID chip implanted under the skin of the hand with which they are making purchases with. So as far as this technology goes, we have a match across the board. For scripture states that it will go in/on the hand or forehead and that without it no one would be able to buy or sell. But like I said, whatever the mark evolves into, it will be on/in the hand or forehead. Neither the Quantum Dot nor Vaccinations are stationary. They are injected and are then dispersed throughout the body and that does not match the information regarding the mark. The word 'charagma' translated as 'mark' also does not fit with a vaccination.

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Strong's Concordance
charagma: a stamp, impress
Original Word: χάραγμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: charagma
Phonetic Spelling: (khar'-ag-mah)
Definition: a stamp, impress
Usage: sculpture; engraving, a stamp, sign.

HELPS Word-studies
5480
xáragma – properly, an engraving (etching); (figuratively) a mark providing undeniable identification, like a symbol giving irrefutable connection between parties.

5480 /xáragma ("brand-mark") was originally any impress on a coin or a seal, used by an engraver on a die (stamp, branding iron). 5480 (xáragma) later became "the identification-marker" (like with an owner's unique "brand-mark").

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The mark will be a stationary device in/on the hand or the forehead.
What concerned me was that Gates was talking about not allowing anyone to buy anything or go anywhere without the "mark." Alert Christians' ears should prick up at that.

I think that we have to pray heavily, exercise discernment to the best of our ability, and gather as much knowledge about it as we can. I don't have all the answers and am looking to share with other believers as iron sharpens iron. In the end however, I think that we all have to make our own decisions.
 

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There is no independent press in the US as the mass news and social media is controlled by radical far-left radicals. Trump got that right, it is all contrived fake news heavily biased against those that hold firm to Christian biblical principals. Freedom of religion, particularly Christianity, is being eroded by the day.
Just as Hitler took control of the press in Nazi Germany.
 

saintrose

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All this talk about the vaccine and waiting for the vaccine, constantly in the news but not a single mention about trials on TV, instead of an expert discussion and letting the public know how are the trials going. But they told us "the Russian vaccine is bad and dangerous". Where is the info about other manufacturer trials why would anyone out of Russia be interested in the Russian vaccine anyway?
It's all shrouded in darkness.

I agree with your statement about TV - I wish we had thrown ours out years ago. Certain people found out how they could move the masses by "programming."
 

saintrose

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As I prayed a verse came to mind.

Matthew 23:13

Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. 13But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 14Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 15Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. 16Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!


There may or may not be a reason why 'Scribe' chose that particular moniker, but I am wary of him because of 1) his pushing others to take the vaccine 2) his abusiveness when I attempted to warn others to do research before turning their health over to another.

I'm not answering any more of his posts and I don't want you Scribe, to try to respond to me.

Every person has to judge someone's fruit for themselves. I have tried to warn my fellow believers of the very real danger in an untested vaccine - for many reasons.

May God speak to each of our hearts and guide us during these likely end times.
 
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It's good to find more informed believers. Yes, Gates is for depopulation. He is not a doctor either. If you do a search on his wife, you'll find that she wears an upside down cross, as does Chelsea Clinton, another individual pushing vaccines.

Are they really the people who we should trust? Christ had no trust in man.

John 2:24

“But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,”
Jesus had rebuked many people, calling Satan their father. Even called the Pharisees ‘hypocrites’ and ‘den of serpents’
From the time this whole Covid thing started, I was suspicious of it. Firstly, we should fear God only. Otherwise where is our faith? We shouldn’t fear the things of this world, which is fleeting anyway. There is a community of Christian truthers who risk fines, imprisonment, etc just to get the word out. They work tirelessly to search for the truths amongst the many layers of lies, the thick cloud of deceit. Also, I come to no longer believe that the Mark is the RFID chip. Since those who get the mark no longer have a chance for salvation and God will pour out His wrath upon them.

Revelation 14:9-10
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb.

If it is a chip, one could dig it out and turn to God, right? I do believe the Mark, once placed, will alter one’s dna. And I will explain. First let’s talk about just where the temple of God is.

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Ok, so we established that taking the mark defiles God’s temple, which is our bodies. But how does it do that. What does that have to do with dna modification? I’m getting to that. Ok, so, what does Jesus say the world will be like just before His return? Let’s take a look at what He says.

Matthew 24:37-39
37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark,
39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Ok, but what, still, does that have to do with DNA manipulation? Well, let’s go back to Genesis to get more information about the Days of Noah.

Genesis 6:1-5
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Cross breeding was going on, the destruction of God’s image was happening, DNA manipulation. If one puts any stock in the Book of Enoch, it goes farther to say that even plants and animals were being genetically modified as well. Which is happening with many of our present day plants and animals. However, the Bible is seen as a religious text to most Christians, and a book of fairy tales by the unbelievers, instead of as a history book. The Bible is many things, a history book, a manual on how to live, a guide book to the future, and a love story about a Father who is trying to bring His children back to Him, even sacrificing His only begotten Son to save us. And farther more, I put more faith in what God tells us in the Bible then some scientist. We are being told by said scientists not to ‘do our own research,’ to not to ‘question,’ the science. Sounds like science has become a religion almost. Back when I was in high school it was about asking questions, discovery, learning, not blind faith. So when I’m told to ‘trust’ the scientists and not to do my own ‘research’ I’m gonna question more.
 

Ahwatukee

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Each of us has to make decisions according to what we know of Scripture. God allowed me to be catastrophically injured by a pharmaceutical so that I spent many years with my laptop. I met Christians from all over the world and several from Australia opened my eyes to truths that years of Bible study and church attendance had not afforded me.

Scripture says "My people are dying for lack of knowledge." We know that God sometimes uses doctors and other professionals who studied subjects other than the Bible to heal. I believe that likewise God uses others - such as the Christians from Australia - to enlighten us. I learned about the shadow government that controls almost every nation and more importantly, I learned of their depopulation agenda. If you do nothing else, research that.

I don't know if the vaccine is the Mark and I said that from the start; I said "may" be the Mark. But from what I'm seeing, if it's not the vaccine, it's pretty close.
I agree! But why the question is, why are you not believing in the chip implant which is even closer and right on the money?!

As I stated, we must pay attention to the details of scripture to come to a right conclusion. That said, the following are the two main constants:

* Goes in/on the right hand or forehead

* Without it no one will be able to buy or sell

The RFID chip is being inserted under the skin between the thumb and index finger and many people in Sweden are using it to make their purchases, such as having their hands scanned to pay for their train tickets and other purchases. Therefore, we have a match across the board according to the scripture. We can't make the same claim with the tattoo dot, because once in the body it does not remain in the hand, nor would an injection be given on the forehead. After it is injected, it moves throughout the body. So, we do not have a match here. Nor is that tattoo dot used to credit and debit ones bank account.

I put a chip in my hand to replace my wallet:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

Swedish commuters are using microchips to pay for their tickets

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...62E3DF29BEF37945059862E&view=detail&FORM=VIRE



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Ahwatukee

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What concerned me was that Gates was talking about not allowing anyone to buy anything or go anywhere without the "mark." Alert Christians' ears should prick up at that.

Again, my argument against this tattoo dot as being the mark, is that it is not stationary, but is something dispersed through the body. It does not remain on the hand. And who would receive a vaccination on the forehead?

The meaning behind the scripture which says, "unless anyone had the mark they would not be able to buy or sell" is referring to the mark itself as the means for being able to buy and sell. To put that into perspective for today, buying and selling is electronic crediting and debiting. I will be that mark/device that will work like a debit card in that it will allow a person access their bank account in order to perform financial transactions.

It also states "Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and that number is 666."

How can we apply this information to the tattoo dot? We can't. I believe that the reference to the number of a man, will be digitally encoded within the mark/device, just like there are codes for city, country, branch and others which reside digitally on the debit/credit card chips or strips. I believe that the beasts name will be encoded on that device.

I've been studying and following this technology for 45 years now and I have recognized each phase of this mark technology. The next thing that we are going to see here--which is already happening in Sweden--will be people making purchases with the scan of their hands.
 
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Why are they covering up the negative effects of trials if it's all that peachy, we hear NOTHING on the media it's actively suppressed.
What makes you think they are covering anything up? The safety testing data is all published and you are able to read it and review it, maybe summary data, but all of it will be available if you know who to get access to it.

They record all the responses, which have been mild fevers, headaches and muscle aches for the first day.

The only severe reaction from three different vaccines being tested was one patient in the UK who had some kind of spinal issue, They halted the testing until they could prove it was not related to the vaccine, then they started the testing up again. They ruled out the vaccine as the cause. They are testing 40,000 people for each vaccine and when there is any adverse reaction at all including a mild fever it is recorded.

Is the lack of serious adverse reactions making you think there is a cover up? Is it not logical to you that it would be safe?
 

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If they get a mild fever about 7 hours later. :)
Do you believe without question everything the MSM tells you?

If you do - then, for as long as you do, you will never (in this lifetime) understand the real truth about anything.

Read the 'Truth' statement that is currently in my signature. It is "a word to the wise" for the reality of today...
 
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Do you believe without question everything the MSM tells you?

If you do - then, for as long as you do, you will never (in this lifetime) understand the real truth about anything.

Read the 'Truth' statement that is currently in my signature. It is "a word to the wise" for the reality of today...
What is MSM? Do I believe that Moderna, Pfyzer, other companies are reporting the reactions of their test patients? Yes. I believe there are external auditors who are also observing and documenting it and not just the company employees.

If you are faced with the facts and observe yourself how these reactions all get recorded and audited, and see the checks and balances in place to eliminate lying, falsifying, or coverups, but then you still believe it is all a show to fake you out then you will always live in a skeptical fantasy world of your own making. Truth can be verified. But not for the eternal skeptic. For him there is no truth but his own imaginations.
 

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I also know you’re not stupid. Neither am I, and I promise you that it will be a mistake of mammath proportions for anyone to take this evil vaccine.
Absolutely correct. Those who are knowledgeable professionals untainted by all the hype have made it clear that the COVID vaccines are not trustworthy. And most Americans have made it clear that they will not take COVID vaccines:

Americans Don’t Trust Big Pharma and Most Won’t Take a COVID Vaccine When There Is One
 
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EleventhHour

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You mean, you are not going to give us any links to the propaganda studies? :p
Does not matter most people do not read them so I stopped a long while ago, you can do a search and find them, put the onus on yourself to look into it further.

Just remember I stated "uncovering" and nothing more.
 
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Absolutely correct. Those who are knowledgeable professionals untainted by all the hype have made it clear that the COVID vaccines are not trustworthy. And most Americans have made it clear that they will not take COVID vaccines:

Americans Don’t Trust Big Pharma and Most Won’t Take a COVID Vaccine When There Is One
It is a Sept 6, 2020 article. I said at that time this would change when 1) there was more data released about the safety testing results, and 2) information gets disseminated about how the mRNA vaccines work.

Ask the question again when the FDA approves and the safety testing is available and exact details on how the vaccine works etc. When all this is easy to read and the vaccines are available at their local Pharmacy many who said No to the question in August 2020 will say Yes in April or May of 2021.

If we can get 70% vaccinated they say we can produce herd immunity.
 

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Oh and they are even grooming children for this vaccine. Check this out.
Wow. She knocks the toy dog out with a hammer because it's "not cooperating" with the vaccine.
Also, if the toy dog had covid, why would it need the vaccine??
 
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As I prayed a verse came to mind.

Matthew 23:13

Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. 13But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 14Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 15Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. 16Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!


There may or may not be a reason why 'Scribe' chose that particular moniker, but I am wary of him because of 1) his pushing others to take the vaccine 2) his abusiveness when I attempted to warn others to do research before turning their health over to another.

I'm not answering any more of his posts and I don't want you Scribe, to try to respond to me.

Every person has to judge someone's fruit for themselves. I have tried to warn my fellow believers of the very real danger in an untested vaccine - for many reasons.

May God speak to each of our hearts and guide us during these likely end times.
The reason I chose the name is in the signature scripture on every post of mine. :)

It is a public forum on Conspiracy theories. I respond to posts when I feel like responding. Frankly, yours are so crazy I don't really need to respond. Anyone can google and get pages of links disproving them from fact checkers so they don't really require a response.

However, since you have called me out, I suppose I can post fact checker links for you if you can't find them on your own. I normally assume that people have already seen the fact check rebuttals but ignore them, but I guess it is possible that some people don't know how to find them. I will help you out if I have time. But occasionally I might just respond with a face palm. It depends on how crazy your posts are.
 
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