Science and the bible

There really is a thing about that. It has to do with the fact that there are two separate distinct words in the Hebrew for 'circle' and 'ball' - used in two separate places in scripture - but - if the word 'ball' was definitely an available Hebrew word in the language - why was it not used in the place where 'circle' was used?

Answer?

Because the intent in the verse is actually 'circle' and not 'ball'.

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Should we go by science or the bible? Here are some thoughts about this.

We know the bible is always correct, for it is inspired by the creator of us and our world, and we know that science is sometimes incorrect because we have seen them change their mind at times.

However, scripture is inspired by the Lord, but it is men who put those thoughts into words that he understood at the time he wrote them down. It could be that it is not correct because his understanding was incorrect.

Another misunderstanding of scripture was centuries ago when people thought the Lord told us the earth was square. This was based on the scripture telling of the “four corners of the earth”. There was a cry of outrage when science proved the earth was round.

Some speak of the Holy Word of God as if it were some ancient textbook written and inspired by some ancient philosopher who is long dead. We need to get down on our knees and repent of our vulgar insinuations about the Bible being out of date and irrelevant and inferior to our "superior and transcendent modern intellect". God has a place for men with attitudes like that.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

That means it is alive, folks, just like it's author. God forgive us our foolish babblings on this sad day of creation!.

I believe what the Bible really actually says - and, if it says the earth has four corners - then, I believe the earth has four corners.

I would say to go by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the LORD.



In John 14:26 it is written, “… he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”


I find it somewhat peculiar that those who go by the Bible consider the ability to read and write the spoken word as a construct of man while at the same time holding the scriptures are somehow of a divine origin. Not accusing or judging anyone, just saying that it seems somewhat ironic that they needed a man to teach them how to read so that they can hear him tell them that “he shall teach you all things.”



While I have never heard of the square earth doctrine, I have read where it is written "an end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land"

That people believed scripture told them the earth was square is history so ancient that we have forgotten that man ever thought that.

How old the earth is is an example. I think that both science and our understanding of what scripture tells us is muddled. God doesn't think it is something we need to know or scripture would have made it plain.

Well, if one believes that the universe, being the physical world we live in was created, then they should understand what the term 'create' really means in the scriptures. 'The term 'create' doesn't have as broad of a definition in scriptures that it has in its common usage. When used in the scriptures of Genesis, the term 'create' has a specific and definitive meaning as being a' infers that is a 'divine act' the results in something that has never existed in either form or nature prior to the time it is brought into existence, nor is it possible for it to occur in nature except but for the 'divine act' that created it.

I agree that the LORD gave man the ability to communicate using the spoken word, by a 'divine act'.

I truly love your thoughts about the Holy Word. Nothing but the Holy Scripture has the power to transform lives, and to think!! it has the power of life eternal and death! But let me add some questions for you.

Don't you think we should keep our minds so open so we are always listening to the Lord because the Lord lives in a completely different dimension than we do and our understanding of God is limited, even after we spend a lifetime listening and growing in understanding. As humans, we see darkly, even at our best.

Don't you think we should keep our minds so open so we are always listening to the Lord?

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. That is what meditating upon the Word is all about. There is nothing complicated about any of this.

Should we go by science or the bible? Here are some thoughts about this.

We know the bible is always correct, for it is inspired by the creator of us and our world, and we know that science is sometimes incorrect because we have seen them change their mind at times. However, scripture is inspired by the Lord, but it is men who put those thoughts into words that he understood at the time he wrote them down. It could be that it is not correct because his understanding was incorrect.

Also, there are times that the Lord’s ways were explained by using a current saying, like we say don’t burn your bridges. We don't mean that as literal burning a bridge. An illustration of this is to tell of God wanting us to be just by saying “an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth”. The Lord was not telling us to take out eyes, the Lord was telling us to be just.

Another misunderstanding of scripture was centuries ago when people thought the Lord told us the earth was square. This was based on the scripture telling of the “four corners of the earth”. There was a cry of outrage when science proved the earth was round.

The Lord didn't give us scripture as a science textbook, but as a spiritual guide.

True. But Scripture presents scientific facts in simple language.

Regarding the age of the earth, it is plainly stated in the Ten Commandments (in the 4th commandment), which goes back to the creation account, which chronologically takes the earth back to only about 6,000 years [using the creation of Adam as the "Year of Man" (Anno Hominis or AH)].

It meant four directions. North, South, East and West. Like the four winds. It did not mean square. That was just bad hermeneutics.
We still say the four points of the compass. The four corners (far ends) of the earth in each direction. It never meant square.

Scripture does not state that the earth is about 6,000 years old, but the interpretation of scripture states that.

Scripture does not state that the earth is about 6,000 years old

Too true. And seeing something out of the corner of our eye does not make our eyes square, either

Agreed. At best it might have been 6000 years since Adam was created.

Great point! The Universe is 6000 years and six days old, making it 6000.02 years old.

A third thing I just remembered is the gap theory where the first two verses of Gen 1 aren't part of day one.

What happened to the 7th day?

This doesn't work for those who believe the days were not 24 hours in length.

Agreed. At best it might have been 6000 years since Adam was created. That may or may not be fully accurate but the 6000 number was never about the age of the Earth since Adam wasn't created when the Earth was.

Should we go by science or the bible? Here are some thoughts about this.