Star Trek Thread
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Disney destroyed star wars. Michael Bay blew up everything I loved about transformers. Disney turned the teenage mutant Ninja turtles into simpering idiots. In the meantime they are merrily swinging a pickaxe at the Star trek foundation of my childhood TV viewing.
Anything else we want to totally desecrate about my childhood? Come on, I know there has to be something you can make a few bucks on by completely ruining it.
Anything else we want to totally desecrate about my childhood? Come on, I know there has to be something you can make a few bucks on by completely ruining it.
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I loved Star Trek, both me and my brother watched that together. He likes the newer stuff from Star Trek, whereas I stay the old fashioned way.
They pretty much destroyed Mulan too... I personally haven’t seen it, but everyone I ask about it says its Horrible and if I want to destroy my childhood movies... to go right ahead and watch it..
I think I’ll pass thanks.✌🏻
They pretty much destroyed Mulan too... I personally haven’t seen it, but everyone I ask about it says its Horrible and if I want to destroy my childhood movies... to go right ahead and watch it..
I think I’ll pass thanks.✌🏻
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TNG was great! That's precisely why I don't like ST-P. In TNG Picard was the greatest captain the Star Trek series ever had. Kirk was a stereotypical male, charming ladies and slugging it out with aliens. Sisko was a stern guy who spoke in high-strung, clipped tones, somebody you did not want to cross. Janeway was more of a mother figure for a ship that was very far from home. But Picard... he was the quintessential starship captain.
Picard saw his position as custodial more than anything. He didn't try to go on adventures like Kirk or be intimidating like Sisko. He was just a reserved man who took care of the ship and the mission and did it well. He was the focal point for all the decisions. Geordi would come up with options, Worf would keep him apprised of the tactical situation, Riker would handle small details and make relevant observations, Crusher would keep the crew online, but Picard made all the tough calls.
In ST-P they changed all that, and it was deliberate. They said they did not want it to be ST:TNG-2 and they said they wanted to show a side of Picard the audience had never seen. And that's just what they got - the same actor playing the same character, but it's a very different Picard they are showing, one that wrecks the image the audience had of Picard from TNG.
As for Discovery, it was just another action-show-in-space. It had none of the Star Trek charm. If you had slapped any other name on it, it would have been the same cheap plots and the same cheesy "I'm trying to be dramatic here!" lines.
Edit: Great. When I use "ST colon P" it makes it ST
instead. I had to edit : to a dash.
Picard saw his position as custodial more than anything. He didn't try to go on adventures like Kirk or be intimidating like Sisko. He was just a reserved man who took care of the ship and the mission and did it well. He was the focal point for all the decisions. Geordi would come up with options, Worf would keep him apprised of the tactical situation, Riker would handle small details and make relevant observations, Crusher would keep the crew online, but Picard made all the tough calls.
In ST-P they changed all that, and it was deliberate. They said they did not want it to be ST:TNG-2 and they said they wanted to show a side of Picard the audience had never seen. And that's just what they got - the same actor playing the same character, but it's a very different Picard they are showing, one that wrecks the image the audience had of Picard from TNG.
As for Discovery, it was just another action-show-in-space. It had none of the Star Trek charm. If you had slapped any other name on it, it would have been the same cheap plots and the same cheesy "I'm trying to be dramatic here!" lines.
Edit: Great. When I use "ST colon P" it makes it ST
instead. I had to edit : to a dash.-
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I guess we have to agree to disagree.
Picard (so far) has really just been one story. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Picard has been a relatively minor character (compared to who he was in TNG).
With Discovery, I disagree entirely with your assessment. There are a few episodes like that, but overall it isn't like that at all. And let's be honest, there are a few episodes of every one of the series, even TNG and DS9, that were like that. FarPoint (the first TNG episode) was just plain awful.
The characters in Discovery are fresh, layered, and exciting. If you haven't watched more than a few episodes in the beginning, I'd argue that you haven't really given it a chance. Same as if someone just watched the first few episodes of TNG and gave up.
Picard (so far) has really just been one story. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Picard has been a relatively minor character (compared to who he was in TNG).
With Discovery, I disagree entirely with your assessment. There are a few episodes like that, but overall it isn't like that at all. And let's be honest, there are a few episodes of every one of the series, even TNG and DS9, that were like that. FarPoint (the first TNG episode) was just plain awful.
The characters in Discovery are fresh, layered, and exciting. If you haven't watched more than a few episodes in the beginning, I'd argue that you haven't really given it a chance. Same as if someone just watched the first few episodes of TNG and gave up.
DS9 was a complete rip-off of Babylon 5. They pitched Babylon 5 and it got rejected, then a few months later the company they pitched Babylon 5 to suddenly came out with deep space 9... And it was just Babylon 5 with a Star trek logo, basically.
That is why DS9 had all that metaphysical junk with Sisco being the chosen one to interface between our reality and the wormhole aliens.
It is also why they started out with a wrecked star base the Cardasians used to own.
That is why DS9 had all that metaphysical junk with Sisco being the chosen one to interface between our reality and the wormhole aliens.
It is also why they started out with a wrecked star base the Cardasians used to own.
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