Proving the thousand years of Revelation 20 is exactly 1000 years.

Where Is There A Literal 1,000 Years On This Earth Seen Below, Dont Run From A Response On Your Claim?

Help me find the things claimed by "Your" teaching of a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist), A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Is A Man Made Fairy Tale (Fact)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time (Fact)

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

John saw (Thrones) & (Souls) and they aren't upon this physical earth as you claim.

Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% in the Lords spiritual realm, Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ (Spiritual)

(Had) past tense, upon aa"Previous" earth

Revelation 20:4KJV
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

"Spiritual" does not mean "intangible". You seem to be quite confused, but you have been promoting your false eschatology for a very long time. It is now time to deal with Bible truth, not fantasy.

How many "Souls" have you tangibly touched lately

Bible Truth, Tangible Souls?

Revelation 20:4KJV
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

The word (or words) you are speaking of is/are not in the "past tense"... but in the "aorist tense".

However, the phrase "those HAVING BEEN beheaded" is in the "PERFECT tense, participle" ([quoting] PERFECT TENSE: "ACTION COMPLETED at a SPECIFIC POINT of TIME in PAST (●) with results CONTINUING into the PRESENT (▬►). In certain contexts the results are PERMANENT.")



In this case, the context itself tells you that the "results" are not "permanent" because [of what I pointed out in my previous post] the rest of the verse tells us "the REST of the story":

"and they lived [AFTER HAVING DIED in the past, in the 2nd half of the Trib that just concluded, at that point]" [G2198 - ezēsan ] and reigned with Christ 1000 years"

(just like the "STILL-LIVING" ones in "part a" of the verse are given to do; see again Daniel 7:22, and 25,27 "the greatness of the kingdom UNDER the whole heavens"... NOT "UP IN Heaven" in this particular CONTEXT [i.e. which is His "RETURN" to the earth at Rev19, like Lk12:36-37,38,40-42 and its parallel speak of!! "when he will RETURN FROM the wedding" ... THEN the meal [G347]!] )


In Acts 1, the disciples were told, "He shall so come IN LIKE MANNER as ye have seen Him going [/traveling] into Heaven" (re: His VISIBLE "RETURN" to the earth Rev19; a great many passages in the Gospels speak of this very thing--it's just that you've listened to folks [namely, 'Amill-teachings'] saying "the kingdom OF THE heavenS" is "UP IN Heaven," when that is not what this phrase is speaking about... etc)

Dont add your personal interjection into my post seen below as you have, stop the misrepresentation!

I didn't write the brackets and three dots seen below that you falsely inserted!

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Well, this is exactly what I mean...

Let's take the 70 Weeks prophecy. Whether we agree on the meaning of the word "weeks", we're specifically given a 70ct. So regardless of what "weeks" is interpreted to mean (which can affect the count by a certain multiple...factor??? *shrugs*), Daniel's people were given seventy of them to accomplish the tasks set by The Almighty in Chapter 9. No more, and no less.

In other words, 70x will always be 70x regardless of the value of x, right?

That's a "snip" to condense the quote.

...otherwise the entire quote fails to show up to the readers...

and I was addressing the parts [only] that I was quoting.




I'm pretty sure you yourself have selected only "a part" of a person's post to quote and address "that part" only, am I right?

Dont interject anything into another's post, common courtesy!

If you want to condense the quote, then quote it exactly as posted, removing a sentence or paragraph

Adding your brackets and dots is bad etiquette

No Good! [...]

"quote it exactly as posted" says the person who "altered" MY Post #35 in your Post #42.

*I* did not write "Sure there is" like you altered my post to then show in bold and red , but I wasn't whining about such...

I understand YOUR intention was to PLACE EMPHASIS in my post, when you quoted it and "altered" it (to DRAW ATTENTION to what YOU wanted to ADDRESS of my post), not because of some devious motive.

It's just a "snip"... to condense... just like you ADDED EMPHASIS by your altering MY post you quoted, to draw the readers to focus in on the one PART you wanted to address. Let's not sink into ridiculousness, here.

I highlight, I dont add to as you have done, stop the bad etiquette

Horse is dead

^ "[...]" is a "snip" (for condensing text)... it is not ADDING text.


It is for the purpose of zeroing in on the "part" I DID want to address, rather than the part I did not want to address.

Same as when a person "alters" another's post in some manner for the same purpose... as you did to my post

(to draw attention to the "part" one is wanting to address--no "rude" intention was meant, in either case... but believe as you wish).


"ANYTHING" ??

What about "red" and "bold" ??

There will be a thousand years reign on earth of Jesus and His saints that rule over the heathen that God spared at the battle of Armageddon.

Luk 19:16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
Luk 19:17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
Luk 19:18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
Luk 19:19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.

The saints will rule with Jesus.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:5 and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

Joe 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,
Joe 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
oe 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:
Joe 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.
Joe 3:11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.

Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Eze 39:2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel.

The battle of Armageddon is when the antichrist, New Age Christ, and the world, attacks Israel after God put them all back on their land, and then Jesus comes back with all the saints and defeats the world, and saves Israel, and Jesus and the saints rule over one sixth of the heathen that God spared.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.

Jesus will be King over all the earth, and in that day there shall be one LORD, and His name one, which means that the heathen will only acknowledge Jesus and no other religious figure or god.

God will set His glory among the heathen, and the heathen have to go up year after year to Jerusalem to worship Jesus.

This is on earth for there is no heathen in heaven.

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Jesus came to fulfill the law by being a sinless man obeying God's commandments perfectly, and fulfilling all the roles of Israel which He is the perfect King, High Priest, Prophet, saint, and is the temple and sacrifice.

This must be fulfilled on earth, but Jesus has not fulfilled the role of perfect King on earth for He came as a humble servant.

Jesus will fulfill the role of perfect King on earth during the millennial reign fulfilling all of the law, and then heaven and earth shall pass away, and there will be a new heaven and earth the New Jerusalem.

Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

God will create a new heaven and a new earth, which Jesus went away from the earth to prepare a place for the saints, and the first heaven and earth shall not be remembered nor come to mind for they are associated with sin and rebellion and God does not want them to remember that so the angels and saints will remember nothing prior to the New Jerusalem but will feel as if they have always been there and nowhere else which is a place wherein dwells righteousness where sin has never been and sin will never be, and sin and rebellion will never come up again.

The former heaven shall dissolve with fervent heat, and the earth shall be burned up and all the works of it for the heaven and earth has been tainted with sin and all sin must be purged with fire.

Psa 63:9 But those that seek my soul, to destroy it, shall go into the lower parts of the earth.

Eph 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
Eph 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Rev 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

The wicked shall go in to the lower parts of the earth, which Jesus went to the lower parts of the earth and conquered death and hell, which death and hell shall be cast in to the lake of fire, so the earth shall be cast in to the lake of fire where it will be burned up and all the works of it.

There will be a millennial reign on earth which Jesus and the saints will rule over the heathen and Jesus fulfills the role of perfect King on earth, and then the law will be fulfilled perfectly and heaven and earth shall pass away, and there will be a new heaven and earth the New Jerusalem.

I do not know from where you learned your etiquette, but - replacing text with '...' is a way of showing "respect" towards the author by virtue of indicating that text was removed. It is considered to be worse to simply remove text without such an indication.

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The horse is not dead.

"You started it - the least you can do is to try to understand someone else's POV - as they try to help you understand why they used the ellipsis."

You are the one beating the horse the hardest.

"Chill, brother!"

If people of the two sides argue, what advantage have either of you? Who will want to see this argument continue? In the end neither will be believed. The best thing to do is put each other on "ignore" & post peaceful things. I can "agree to disagree", but I wont stick around to watch an argument.

I know what you mean. I have done that myself (left a thread because I got tired of the nothing-but-bickering); however, also keep in mind that - that is exactly what the shills want you to do - to minimize good constructive conversation on a topic.

So - to "balance" everything appropriately - a well-placed nice-and-polite-but-firm "Cool it!" will generally suffice...

Ok, so what you're saying in a nutshell is put both of them on ignore & enjoy the thread, right?

The insertion of an ellipsis is the grammatically correct (and academically honest) way to indicate that part of a quotation has been removed. It is quite thoroughly unnecessary to reproduce portions of a quote to which one is not responding, and there is nothing "false" about deleting words and including the ellipsis in their place.

There's no evidence that the word is used as an idiom so what the word means comes from it's definition and usage and it's used to represent exactly a thousand. A different Greek word is used (twice) to represent an unknown and long amount. Thus, the thousand years is exactly as it says, a thousand years no more or less.

This is true, for when Jesus appeared to the disciples they were afraid thinking that they were seeing a Spirit. Then He shows them His nail marks and says to them 'a spirit doesn't have flesh and bone as you see I have.'

The resurrected body is referred to as spiritual, but as you said, it doesn't mean that it is intangible. We will all be resurrected in a flesh and bone body, but with spiritual/heavenly abilities, the same as the Lord's.