Our war as believers

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MikkoAinasoja

MikkoAinasoja

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Today political disputes seems to be escalating, and it is a war of its own, but I see that it is not a battle of believers, but our battle is in the spiritual fields in believer communities and turning sinners into to life without interfering too much in this worlds disputes which seems to reach a state of chronic dispute without way to out.

If we think, for example the dream given to Nebuchadnezzar. The statue representing the kingdoms of the world from the top to down to the end. We remember that the legs of the statue were made of both iron and clay, two different substances which did not mixed together, making the feet fragile, so that the stone finally rolled down without touching of the human hand and struck the fragile foot and destroyed the entire statue.

So do we even really have the reason to expect that the kingdoms of this world will form in to a better and stronger direction?

In any case, I believe that we should just continue our own works in reviving spirituality, and shake the many disputes and pains of the kingdoms of this world from us, so that our thoughts and focus are not there, but instead in the future eternal Kingdom.
 
Pemican

Pemican

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The answer is always spiritual. Politics reflects the spiritual condition of the people. We get the government we deserve. This is why evangelism followed by sound Biblical teaching is critical for this life and the next.
 
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gb9

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this is true. as a nation, we have been slowly, steadily turning away from God and the Bible for the last 30 + years, now all the non-sense you see today is a direct result of that.
 
MikkoAinasoja

MikkoAinasoja

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Pemican said:
The answer is always spiritual. Politics reflects the spiritual condition of the people. We get the government we deserve. This is why evangelism followed by sound Biblical teaching is critical for this life and the next.
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Yes the answer is always spiritual, but for the sake of spiritual progress we must choose wisely, where we aim our work and effort. We can't be everywhere. But the answer is always spiritual in deed.
 
JaumeJ

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Tell us, what may be construed as spiritual about any ideology? Surely it does not reside in democrats or republicans.. Nor does it reside in fascism, communism, anarchy nor any other huiman trining to think.

No country is nor has been governed by the Word, not even the first Israel, though manyu will argue it was, so where is the spiritual form of government. I know,. It is in the hearts of all who have Jesus-Yeshua as King, and it will be established in His time, not mankind-s.
 
tribesman

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Since the "enlightenment", the French revolution, secularization and modern "democracy" (of whom all were NOT spawn ny christians), what have we seen other than a continuous war against christianity and civilisation as we used to know it. The Church is always a target for these dark forces. How can one expect any sudden turn at the end?
 
Lanolin

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OP just let them argue amongst themselves but take no part in it you got WAY better things to think and pray about!

Jesus says blessed are the peacemakers, so it cant be said that believers are for any kind of war. Besides in the heavenlies theres a spiritual battle that is NOT fought with any carnal weapons.

Believers are to bless, not curse and also we are called to LOVE our enemies.
 
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