ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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kinda

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So, how do you guys talk to friends or family regarding the covid vaccine?

I have some family members that took the shot and told them my view on it, but some don't agree. When they don't agree with me, I say, do what you think is best for you.

It's really everyone's personal decision and that's really the bottom line. When it starts becoming mandated, that's when rights are being violated.

By the way, did you hear about the third shot, that is suppose to fix any mutations of covid, or something to that effect?!?!


https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...vaccine-maker-studying-booster-shots-n1258775

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-variants-third-shot-bill-gates/
 

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She didn't target 20 years only, it was a range from 2-20 years. She was quoting another researcher on the range. She did say, your immune system will be compromised after 6 months, when this spike protein, gene, or whatever you want to label it, starts altering things.

Not gonna pretend to be a medical doctor/scientist or anything. She also said, the vaccine won't alter your DNA, but the Mnra gives instruction to make a protein, and that protein some how alters your genes. This is a bit over my head.

She agreed that vaccine is a bioweapon and that it will cause an autoimmune disease, which will show different symptoms for each individual.

Alex Jones, that interviewed her said, the tests involving animals with Mnra was a complete failure. Animals died or had serious complications after vaccine. The Covid Vaccine from my understanding didn't go through the normal trial period, so everyone who gets the vaccine, is essentially a lab rat. Don't forget to stay quarantined, while we do scientific experiments on you. haha

From my understanding, you want to get the Covid Vaccine, if this is true, when are you getting it, or have you already taken the shot?
 
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She didn't target 20 years only, it was a range from 2-20 years. She was quoting another researcher on the range. She did say, your immune system will be compromised after 6 months, when this spike protein, gene, or whatever you want to label it, starts altering things.

Not gonna pretend to be a medical doctor/scientist or anything. She also said, the vaccine won't alter your DNA, but the Mnra gives instruction to make a protein, and that protein some how alters your genes. This is a bit over my head.

She agreed that vaccine is a bioweapon and that it will cause an autoimmune disease, which will show different symptoms for each individual.

Alex Jones, that interviewed her said, the tests involving animals with Mnra was a complete failure. Animals died or had serious complications after vaccine. The Covid Vaccine from my understanding didn't go through the normal trial period, so everyone who gets the vaccine, is essentially a lab rat. Don't forget to stay quarantined, while we do scientific experiments on you. haha

From my understanding, you want to get the Covid Vaccine, if this is true, when are you getting it, or have you already taken the shot?
None of the vaccines are available to me yet because of my age. Clergy should have been considered frontline but they were not. When they are available for my age group I was planning on getting what ever was available at a site near me. Now I am not sure.

The J&J used clone cells from an aborted fetal cell from the 1960s and I feel obligated to take a stand against it because of that. If they would have used an aborted puppy cell or a even a human cell ethically derived I would be ok with it.

The mRNA is new technology and I am trusting that what I read about it is true and that it will not cause any autoimmune problems.
I have also fact checked the claims about no animal testing and found them to be false also.

But nothing will really give me 100% confidence that the mRNA isn't freaky, cause it is at it's core a pretty freaky technology. Your immune cell using the gentic snippet to create a spike protein. That is freaky, I don't care who you are.

But then I have read about how mRNA technology like this was used to cure people of melanoma cancer. They used the genetic snippet from a cancer cell and that was used to create and antibody that attacked only those cancer cells and the person was cured of a cancer that had killed millions. That is freaky but in a good way, and awesome, and I hope they have a breakthrough in this technology and discover how to make it work for everyone with cancer. Because as you know "cancer sucks."

So even though mRNA technology is new for vaccines, and since medical technology advances, it is about time for an advance in vaccines and it makes perfect sense that we have found a better way than what was basically first generation technology up until this time. Vaccines have only been in full swing since about the 40s.
 

kinda

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None of the vaccines are available to me yet because of my age. Clergy should have been considered frontline but they were not. When they are available for my age group I was planning on getting what ever was available at a site near me. Now I am not sure.

The J&J used clone cells from an aborted fetal cell from the 1960s and I feel obligated to take a stand against it because of that. If they would have used an aborted puppy cell or a even a human cell ethically derived I would be ok with it.

The mRNA is new technology and I am trusting that what I read about it is true and that it will not cause any autoimmune problems.
I have also fact checked the claims about no animal testing and found them to be false also.

But nothing will really give me 100% confidence that the mRNA isn't freaky, cause it is at it's core a pretty freaky technology. Your immune cell using the gentic snippet to create a spike protein. That is freaky, I don't care who you are.

But then I have read about how mRNA technology like this was used to cure people of melanoma cancer. They used the genetic snippet from a cancer cell and that was used to create and antibody that attacked only those cancer cells and the person was cured of a cancer that had killed millions. That is freaky but in a good way, and awesome, and I hope they have a breakthrough in this technology and discover how to make it work for everyone with cancer. Because as you know "cancer sucks."

So even though mRNA technology is new for vaccines, and since medical technology advances, it is about time for an advance in vaccines and it makes perfect sense that we have found a better way than what was basically first generation technology up until this time. Vaccines have only been in full swing since about the 40s.

Scribe, I thought you were the spokesperson for the Covid Vaccine?!?! You seem to have change your stance over the months, which is good in my opinion. Your stance on aborted baby tissue is noteworthy, when did you change your mind?

Can't tell whether you are for the vaccine or against? You running for political office in the future? lol

Here is good/bad news depending on where your current view is on the Covid Vaccine.

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/go...rs-age-and-older-and-additional-public-facing
 
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So, how do you guys talk to friends or family regarding the covid vaccine?

I have some family members that took the shot and told them my view on it, but some don't agree. When they don't agree with me, I say, do what you think is best for you.

It's really everyone's personal decision and that's really the bottom line. When it starts becoming mandated, that's when rights are being violated.

By the way, did you hear about the third shot, that is suppose to fix any mutations of covid, or something to that effect?!?!


https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...vaccine-maker-studying-booster-shots-n1258775

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-variants-third-shot-bill-gates/
I know people who want to take vaccine and those who don't. Overall people who don't want to take the vaccine distrust the government, so there is a bigger issue at play not just the vaccine issue. The people who take the vaccine trust the government, at least on public health issues. People have to weigh the risks of taking the vaccine versus suffering from COVID/possibly severe disease on the ventilator; it is a personal decision everyone has to make that choice taking into consideration their own health issues. I know people who think COVID is a hoax but at the same time frightened to go out.
 
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Scribe, I thought you were the spokesperson for the Covid Vaccine?!?! You seem to have change your stance over the months, which is good in my opinion. Your stance on aborted baby tissue is noteworthy, when did you change your mind?

Can't tell whether you are for the vaccine or against? You running for political office in the future? lol

Here is good/bad news depending on where your current view is on the Covid Vaccine.

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/go...rs-age-and-older-and-additional-public-facing
Bottom line: I will probably get an mRNA vaccine. I don't think I will have any other choice in my area unless I go with the J&J.

I believe I have a probable likelihood of getting COVID19 if I don't. I don't think there is any chance I will have an adverse reaction to the vaccines. So I am not scared of the vaccines. I am concerned about COVID19. I have friends that have not recovered taste or smell after 4 months since they were sick. That is messed up.
 
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I haven't read any of the posts here but the first one, simply because I don't have the time to read 116 pages worth of comments.

As terribly opposed as I am to the vaccine (I'll NEVER take it), it is most definitely NOT "the mark of the beast".

For starters, "the mark of the beast" is just that..."the mark of THE BEAST". In other words, in Bible prophecy, a "beast" is representative of a "king" (Dan. 7:17) and his "kingdom" (Dan. 7:23), and we're given many descriptors which help us to identify exactly who "THE BEAST" is that "the mark" must be associated with. In regard to this vaccine, as evil as it is, it is NOT related to "THE BEAST" that we've long been forewarned of. That's problem number one.

Problem number two is that there is also "another beast" or another king/kingdom which will enforce "the mark of THE BEAST" or the "mark of THE FIRST BEAST" which came before it, chronologically speaking.

We read:

Revelation chapter 13

[11] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[12] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[13] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[14] And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[15] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Again, there are two separate "beasts" or kingdoms.

"The mark of THE BEAST" is directly associated with "the first beast" (vs. 12), but it is actually enforced by "another beast".

If we look at all of the different descriptors that we're given in relation to these two separate "beasts", then we can easily identify who they actually are.

I recently made a rather long post in relation to the identity of the "another beast" (vs. 11) who will ultimately force "the mark of the beast" upon mankind.

If anyone is interested in reading it, then you can do so here:

https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/is-god-giving-america-up.197885/page-2#post-4508933
 

kinda

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Bottom line: I will probably get an mRNA vaccine. I don't think I will have any other choice in my area unless I go with the J&J.

I believe I have a probable likelihood of getting COVID19 if I don't. I don't think there is any chance I will have an adverse reaction to the vaccines. So I am not scared of the vaccines. I am concerned about COVID19. I have friends that have not recovered taste or smell after 4 months since they were sick. That is messed up.

It's your health and it's your choice. Regarding your friends loss of senses, have they tried a zinc supplement? Has your friends tried seeing a specialist in this medical condition?


"One of the critical functions of all animals is to eat —to maintain adequate nutrition. Two of the mechanisms by which eating is controlled occurs in the ability to taste and to smell. One of the enzymes which is critical to maintain taste and smell function is a zinc dependent metalloenzyme called carbonic anhydrase (CA) VI. If zinc is not present in the body in adequate amounts and zinc deficiency occurs this enzyme does not function correctly and/or is not made in adequate amounts; the animal loses its ability to taste and smell. This mechanism which controls food intake causes animal death since animals no longer want to eat; they suffer from malnutrition and eventually die."


http://www.tasteandsmell.com/feb05.htm
 
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It's your health and it's your choice. Regarding your friends loss of senses, have they tried a zinc supplement? Has your friends tried seeing a specialist in this medical condition?


"One of the critical functions of all animals is to eat —to maintain adequate nutrition. Two of the mechanisms by which eating is controlled occurs in the ability to taste and to smell. One of the enzymes which is critical to maintain taste and smell function is a zinc dependent metalloenzyme called carbonic anhydrase (CA) VI. If zinc is not present in the body in adequate amounts and zinc deficiency occurs this enzyme does not function correctly and/or is not made in adequate amounts; the animal loses its ability to taste and smell. This mechanism which controls food intake causes animal death since animals no longer want to eat; they suffer from malnutrition and eventually die."


http://www.tasteandsmell.com/feb05.htm
She is into supplements and nutrition and is a runner. Tip top shape before covid. Still in great shape and has almost recovered lung capacity but not fully. She calls herself the supplement girl so I bet she knows about Zinc. I'll ask her about it. I have read that there are many who say they have not fully recovered taste and smell. That it comes and goes. Like they can smell a lemon or something and then it goes away as quickly as it came. Like they get one whiff and then nothing. It's weird. No one seems to know the answer. I haven't read why the smell and taste is lost with COVID. Is it a brain thing or what?
 

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I haven't read any of the posts here but the first one, simply because I don't have the time to read 116 pages worth of comments.


https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/is-god-giving-america-up.197885/page-2#post-4508933

Read the rules of the forum, you must read all 116 pages before posting, to help the flow of discussion. lol Just kidding.

I don't think the majority of people who post, believe the vaccine is the mark of the beast, but who knows?

Someone mentioned the quantum dot tattoo being developed by M.I.T. and funded by Bill Gates as a possible mark of the beast fulfillment. Some say, it's the R.F.I.D., Sunday Sabbath, or something else. Just theories, who really knows for sure?

As far as the anti-christ and the false prophet, I think Prince Charles of Wales, and the current pope could be people to watch. Than again, it's just speculation. Tim Cohen wrote a book about Prince Charles and it's worth a read. Many historical church leaders had great concerns about the pope, and if you know about early church history, you wouldn't questioned why.

Napolean will always be my hero for taking down the pope.


 
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Read the rules of the forum, you must read all 116 pages before posting, to help the flow of discussion. lol Just kidding.

I don't think the majority of people who post, believe the vaccine is the mark of the beast, but who knows?

Someone mentioned the quantum dot tattoo being developed by M.I.T. and funded by Bill Gates as a possible mark of the beast fulfillment. Some say, it's the R.F.I.D., Sunday Sabbath, or something else. Just theories, who really knows for sure?

As far as the anti-christ and the false prophet, I think Prince Charles of Wales, and the current pope could be people to watch. Than again, it's just speculation. Tim Cohen wrote a book about Prince Charles and it's worth a read. Many historical church leaders had great concerns about the pope, and if you know about early church history, you wouldn't questioned why.

Napolean will always be my hero for taking down the pope.


LOL to your first comment. You had me going there for a second.

Personally, I would burn at the stake while maintaining either of the following two professions:

1. Jesus is the Christ.
2. The Vatican/Papacy is the kingdom of antichrist.

Please pray that no "pope" ever walks down my block, wearing his fish head miter, while I'm holding a snowball in my hand or else I'm going to have a prison ministry (because I'll be locked up after knocking it off his head) for the rest of my life...lol.
 

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Is it a brain thing or what?
Who knows?

Well, according the link, it could be a zinc deficiency. What about nutritionist, if all else fails? Even though they aren't really considered doctors in the medical world, I would look at them as such.

So, is this runner friend of yours, is she a real close friend? lol
 

kinda

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LOL to your first comment. You had me going there for a second.

Personally, I would burn at the stake while maintaining either of the following two professions:

1. Jesus is the Christ.
2. The Vatican/Papacy is the kingdom of antichrist.

Please pray that no "pope" ever walks down my block, wearing his fish head miter, while I'm holding a snowball in my hand or else I'm going to have a prison ministry (because I'll be locked up after knocking it off his head) for the rest of my life...lol.

You ever heard of the Prophecy of the Popes? I'm not sure, if it's real prophecy or not, but it something to think about.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes
 
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Who knows?

Well, according the link, it could be a zinc deficiency. What about nutritionist, if all else fails? Even though they aren't really considered doctors in the medical world, I would look at them as such.

So, is this runner friend of yours, is she a real close friend? lol
Just friends who talk a lot on the phone. Like every day, at the end of the day phone friends. Nothing romantic. Yet...
 
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So, how do you guys talk to friends or family regarding the covid vaccine?
Good question. This forum is the place to go back and forth with every opinion. Family dinners, not so much.

I would advise people not to discuss it at family dinners if there are sharp differences of opinion. Do your best to change the topic. I keep hearing stories of it ruining what should have been a pleasant evening and people going home crying and not talking to each other.
 

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So, how do you guys talk to friends or family regarding the covid vaccine?

I have some family members that took the shot and told them my view on it, but some don't agree. When they don't agree with me, I say, do what you think is best for you.

It's really everyone's personal decision and that's really the bottom line. When it starts becoming mandated, that's when rights are being violated.

By the way, did you hear about the third shot, that is suppose to fix any mutations of covid, or something to that effect?!?!


https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...vaccine-maker-studying-booster-shots-n1258775

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-variants-third-shot-bill-gates/
My grandma and I stay in contact via email. She recently sent a little "jab" about us not vaccinating. I sent back a careful, respectful response and...its been a week and she hasn't emailed me back.

The rest of my extended family knows my stance and doesn't bring it up. Though I'm pretty sure they probably talk about my choices behind my back. 🤷‍♀️
 
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