ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Genipher

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None have suffered any serious side effects from the vaccinations.
Yet.

Give it a couple years. Autoimmune disorders will go through the roof and nobody will be able to figure out what caused it. 🙄
 
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None of the vaccines are available to me yet because of my age. Clergy should have been considered frontline but they were not. When they are available for my age group I was planning on getting what ever was available at a site near me. Now I am not sure.

The J&J used clone cells from an aborted fetal cell from the 1960s and I feel obligated to take a stand against it because of that. If they would have used an aborted puppy cell or a even a human cell ethically derived I would be ok with it.

The mRNA is new technology and I am trusting that what I read about it is true and that it will not cause any autoimmune problems.
I have also fact checked the claims about no animal testing and found them to be false also.

But nothing will really give me 100% confidence that the mRNA isn't freaky, cause it is at it's core a pretty freaky technology. Your immune cell using the gentic snippet to create a spike protein. That is freaky, I don't care who you are.

But then I have read about how mRNA technology like this was used to cure people of melanoma cancer. They used the genetic snippet from a cancer cell and that was used to create and antibody that attacked only those cancer cells and the person was cured of a cancer that had killed millions. That is freaky but in a good way, and awesome, and I hope they have a breakthrough in this technology and discover how to make it work for everyone with cancer. Because as you know "cancer sucks."

So even though mRNA technology is new for vaccines, and since medical technology advances, it is about time for an advance in vaccines and it makes perfect sense that we have found a better way than what was basically first generation technology up until this time. Vaccines have only been in full swing since about the 40s.
Correction, I think that the J&J used cloned cells from an aborted fetus from the 80s
 

kinda

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Good question. This forum is the place to go back and forth with every opinion. Family dinners, not so much.

I would advise people not to discuss it at family dinners if there are sharp differences of opinion. Do your best to change the topic. I keep hearing stories of it ruining what should have been a pleasant evening and people going home crying and not talking to each other.

Yeah, I'm torn in the handling of this conversation. I basically share my views, if people share them great, if not, it's their choice.

Definitely not the best subject for a dinner conversation for most. Most people are stressed out right, just trying to figure out how they are gonna hold it together.

Family pressure with the kids, work, finances, and the restrictions are taking a toll on the mental well being of most.
 

kinda

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My grandma and I stay in contact via email. She recently sent a little "jab" about us not vaccinating. I sent back a careful, respectful response and...its been a week and she hasn't emailed me back.

The rest of my extended family knows my stance and doesn't bring it up. Though I'm pretty sure they probably talk about my choices behind my back. 🤷‍♀️

Sad story, but at least it was real. Maybe you two can mend the relationship, that you both agree upon?!?!
 

kinda

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Ahhh, very nice. She runs also, so she can cook, and stays in shape.

O.k., I better stop. Someone will probably point out, that I'm talking about relationships.

Have you seen the singles forum?!?! lol
 

kinda

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Correction, I think that the J&J used cloned cells from an aborted fetus from the 80s

I hardly think that's any consolidation.

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Let's kill the Covid Virus with one cloned cell from an aborted baby at a time.

(I don't have the nerve to post a picture of an aborted baby, but I hope the point was made.)

This is absolutely absurd! Why is this world this dark and evil!?!?
 
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As terribly opposed as I am to the vaccine (I'll NEVER take it), it is most definitely NOT "the mark of the beast".

For starters, "the mark of the beast" is just that..."the mark of THE BEAST". In other words, in Bible prophecy, a "beast" is representative of a "king" (Dan. 7:17) and his "kingdom" (Dan. 7:23), and we're given many descriptors which help us to identify exactly who "THE BEAST" is that "the mark" must be associated with. In regard to this vaccine, as evil as it is, it is NOT related to "THE BEAST" that we've long been forewarned of. That's problem number one.
Well I think just about everyone commenting does not believe we have the 'mark of the beast' being offered in injection form but who wants to read 2320 posts about it

This is the conspiracy forum after all though. :eek:

What it seems to have boiled down to, are the proponents telling the 'I will never take that thing no how no way' folks, that they are a disappointment to God and have no concern for their neighbor.

That's pretty beastly right there though.
 
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SophieT

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My grandma and I stay in contact via email. She recently sent a little "jab" about us not vaccinating. I sent back a careful, respectful response and...its been a week and she hasn't emailed me back.

The rest of my extended family knows my stance and doesn't bring it up. Though I'm pretty sure they probably talk about my choices behind my back. 🤷‍♀️
Fear really messes people up
 
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Live4Him

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Well I think just about everyone commenting does not believe we have the 'mark of the beast' being offered in injection form but who wants to read 2320 posts about it

This is the conspiracy forum after all though. :eek:

What it seems to have boiled down to, are the proponents telling the 'I will never take that thing no how no way' folks, that they are a disappointment to God and have no concern for their neighbor.

That's pretty beastly right there though.
That's part of the conditioning.

In other words, even though the vaccine ISN'T "the mark of the beast", we can see the contempt for and demonization of those who refuse to take it.

What I find most interesting is how those temperature scanners placed to one's forehead just suddenly appeared out of nowhere.

In my mind, that's definitely part of the conditioning for what's coming in the future in relation to "the mark of the beast" being in some peoples' foreheads.
 
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Live4Him

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I don't know anything about the author of this brief article, so I'm not recommending any of his other works at this time.

That said, he's right on the mark (no pun intended) with what he said here in regard to conditioning.

Make no mistake about that.

"And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." (Revelation 13:16-18)

https://safeguardyoursoul.com/condi...eBRjhTSCoWCCqk9qhH4u0OfHXdukDRc_bM7t-eDIHZfPM
 
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SophieT

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That's part of the conditioning.

In other words, even though the vaccine ISN'T "the mark of the beast", we can see the contempt for and demonization of those who refuse to take it.

What I find most interesting is how those temperature scanners placed to one's forehead just suddenly appeared out of nowhere.

In my mind, that's definitely part of the conditioning for what's coming in the future in relation to "the mark of the beast" being in some peoples' foreheads.
There are actually some posts worth reading or discussions worth following in this thread, but no matter what is posted, it just gets rebuffed...either side....like WW1 trench warfare. No one advances.

The 'vaccine' was pulled out of the air because of all the research already done on gene manipulation therapy. They have been eager to try it out and here it is all bright and shiny.

Practice refusing now or fall into worse deception.
 

kinda

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There are actually some posts worth reading or discussions worth following in this thread, but no matter what is posted, it just gets rebuffed...either side....like WW1 trench warfare. No one advances.

The 'vaccine' was pulled out of the air because of all the research already done on gene manipulation therapy. They have been eager to try it out and here it is all bright and shiny.

Practice refusing now or fall into worse deception.



Alex Jones interviewed a military personnel who said, the Covid Vaccine will be mandatory by July 2021, or you will be demoted to private class. Jones also stated according to articles the Mnra Vaccine is gene therapy that is linked to infertility, cancer, and autoimmune disease.

We are either on the verge on a massive genocide program, or a really bad virus pandemic that has about a 1% mortality rate. Is there another way to view it?
 
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Alex Jones interviewed a military personnel who said, the Covid Vaccine will be mandatory by July 2021, or you will be demoted to private class. Jones also stated according to articles the Mnra Vaccine is gene therapy that is linked to infertility, cancer, and autoimmune disease.

We are either on the verge on a massive genocide program, or a really bad virus pandemic that has about a 1% mortality rate. Is there another way to view it?
Well yeah, there's another way to view it. There has not been one single case of infertility, cancer, or autoimmune disease linked to an mRNA vaccine. There is that other way of viewing it, called "get the facts straight" way.

We are on the verge of seeing a very drastic decline in COVID infections, hospitalizations and deaths. That bell shaped curve graph is about to take a nose dive back down to Jan 2020 numbers and complete the Bell Image on the charts. That is what we are on the verge of.

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kinda

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Well yeah, there's another way to view it. There has not been one single case of infertility, cancer, or autoimmune disease linked to an mRNA vaccine. There is that other way of viewing it, called "get the facts straight" way.

We are on the verge of seeing a very drastic decline in COVID infections, hospitalizations and deaths. That bell shaped curve graph is about to take a nose dive back down to Jan 2020 numbers and complete the Bell Image on the charts. That is what we are on the verge of.

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It may be possible, that your incorrect. Do you know of any trials or tests on animals with the Mrna vaccine? Do you know of the test results? Did any of them get approved before Covid 19 was emergency passed through? What do your "facts" say about this?

Obviously the Covid 19 Vaccine can be distinguished differently, than a Mrna vaccine, they are not one in the same. Also, we are less than 6 months of the roll out, so how can you be sure that the facts speak against a future medical genocide?!?! Your "facts" predict the future also?

Scribe, I hope your are correct....Honestly! Do you think I want to see massive deaths? The answer is no.

You did mention that Bell curve, what about Bells Palsy? Do you believe people that say, they got Bells Palsy due to the Covid vaccine, or are they not factual? If I remember correctly, is the woman who stated this.

So, we have three options now, thanks to Scribe.

1. Verge of massive medical genocide
2. Were are in a emergency virus pandemic that has a 1% mortality rate
3. Get the facts straight, bell curve going down, and everything getting better.

Reasonable? Yes? No?
 
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It may be possible, that your incorrect. Do you know of any trials or tests on animals with the Mrna vaccine? Do you know of the test results? Did any of them get approved before Covid 19 was emergency passed through? What do your "facts" say about this?

Obviously the Covid 19 Vaccine can be distinguished differently, than a Mrna vaccine, they are not one in the same. Also, we are less than 6 months of the roll out, so how can you be sure that the facts speak against a future medical genocide?!?! Your "facts" predict the future also?

Scribe, I hope your are correct....Honestly! Do you think I want to see massive deaths? The answer is no.

You did mention that Bell curve, what about Bells Palsy? Do you believe people that say, they got Bells Palsy due to the Covid vaccine, or are they not factual? If I remember correctly, is the woman who stated this.

So, we have three options now, thanks to Scribe.

1. Verge of massive medical genocide
2. Were are in a emergency virus pandemic that has a 1% mortality rate
3. Get the facts straight, bell curve going down, and everything getting better.

Reasonable? Yes? No?
You can Google any of these things and easily find the facts. They have been discussed in these threads on numerous occasions. No one even brings up the Bells Palsy anymore because if you select the same amount of people in the general public who have not been vaccinated the reports are even higher for Bells Palsy instances and most people who used the misinformation don't even know what Bells Palsy is.
Just Google it. I am not going to repost all the information all over again when anyone with half a brain can google it in 5 seconds.

"Does Covid19 vaccine cause Bells Palsy?"

(no offense to anyone who only has half a brain, we are glad you are hear and joining the discussions):love:

Google "Were animal tests skipped for COVID19 vaccines"

Due to the urgent need for a vaccine in a surging pandemic, Pfizer and Moderna were given approval to simultaneously test their vaccines on animals while they were conducting Phase 1 trials on humans. The vaccines were tested on mice and macaques.
“They overlapped preclinical studies with the early phases of the trials,” said Dr. William Moss, executive director for the International Vaccine Access Center at Johns Hopkins University. “In fact one of the reasons we are even talking about vaccines now just 10 months later is that some of the phases in which vaccine development normally occurs were overlapped rather than done sequentially.”

https://apnews.com/article/fact-che...ggest,cause dangerous inflammation to animals.

There is much more documentation from reliable sources on the animal testing and the reported Bells Palsy to read about, I am just demonstrating how easy it is to discover. That only took a few seconds.

I will let you google the Bells Palsy question on your own. If you don't believe the fact check information that you find on it, there is nothing else I can say to change your mind.
 
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Live4Him

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You can Google any of these things and easily find the facts. They have been discussed in these threads on numerous occasions. No one even brings up the Bells Palsy anymore because if you select the same amount of people in the general public who have not been vaccinated the reports are even higher for Bells Palsy instances and most people who used the misinformation don't even know what Bells Palsy is.
Just Google it. I am not going to repost all the information all over again when anyone with half a brain can google it in 5 seconds.

"Does Covid19 vaccine cause Bells Palsy?"

(no offense to anyone who only has half a brain, we are glad you are hear and joining the discussions):love:

Google "Were animal tests skipped for COVID19 vaccines"

Due to the urgent need for a vaccine in a surging pandemic, Pfizer and Moderna were given approval to simultaneously test their vaccines on animals while they were conducting Phase 1 trials on humans. The vaccines were tested on mice and macaques.
“They overlapped preclinical studies with the early phases of the trials,” said Dr. William Moss, executive director for the International Vaccine Access Center at Johns Hopkins University. “In fact one of the reasons we are even talking about vaccines now just 10 months later is that some of the phases in which vaccine development normally occurs were overlapped rather than done sequentially.”

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9792931264#:~:text=Posts online appeared to suggest,cause dangerous inflammation to animals.

There is much more documentation from reliable sources on the animal testing and the reported Bells Palsy to read about, I am just demonstrating how easy it is to discover. That only took a few seconds.

I will let you google the Bells Palsy question on your own. If you don't believe the fact check information that you find on it, there is nothing else I can say to change your mind.
When did "Google" become the pathway to truth?
 
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