The overlooked ' Resurrection'

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oyster67 said:
I was saved when I accepted that as payment in full for my sin and was washed in that Blood. This is not complicated rocket science, my friend.


It was necessary for Jesus to come and be born in a manger too, but this is not what secured our salvation. Did you forget who Jesus is? He did not have to become God. He has always been God.
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10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life
 
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throughfaith said:
1 cor 15
13But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
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Amen. That would indicate that Christ was not God, but Christ is God, and He was God long before He came down to Earth 2000 years ago. Corinthians tells us that His resurrection shows us He was God.
 
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oyster67 said:
Fiddlesticks and Bologna.


Atonement is what saves. Resurrection did not make Jesus God. It just testified of this so others could believe and recieve His Atonement.


All things were accomplished at the Cross.


Jesus is alive because He is God. The resurrection did not make Jesus God any more that Lazarus' resurrection made him God.


The resurrection was a necessity because you can't keep God in a grave.

You obviously do no not understand the significance of the Perfect Sacrifice.
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You don't understand the significance of the resurrection. But you are highlighting the issue at hand .
 
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throughfaith said:
Rom 5 .10
10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life
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Life is in the Blood.
 
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oyster67 said:
Amen. That would indicate that Christ was not God, but Christ is God, and He was God long before He came down to Earth 2000 years ago. Corinthians tells us that His resurrection shows us He was God.
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Why are you going on about Jesus being God..Yes Romans 10.9 explains.

9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the LORD !!! ( GOD ) Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God HATH RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD, THOU SHALL BE SAVED .
 
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Life is in the Blood.
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1¶Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3¶For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4AND THAT he was buried, AND !!THAT he ROSE AGAIN the third day according to the scriptures:
 
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1 Peter 1:3

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,”
 
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..and that is salvation. Only by and through the Blood of the Lamb.
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Which if the atonement is not RECEIVED then all is lost . This is made possible AFTER the resurrection and subsequent believing the Gospel.
Rom 5

9Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

11And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have NOW received the atonement.
 
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Why are you going on about Jesus being God..Yes Romans 10.9 explains.

9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the LORD !!! ( GOD ) Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God HATH RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD, THOU SHALL BE SAVED .
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By this we acknowledge that Jesus is God and is the sinless sacrifice.
 
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oyster67 said:
..and that is salvation. Only by and through the Blood of the Lamb.
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Every person that finds themselves in hell proves what your saying is wrong . Jesus death didn't save them did it ?
 
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Every person that finds themselves in hell proves what your saying is wrong . Jesus death didn't save them did it ?
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Obviously not. Obviously they refused the cleansing blood of the Lamb of God.
 
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So we were not saved 2000 years ago correct ?
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We are save when we are born again. Salvation is a choice that each individual needs to make in his or her lifetime. Is this new to you?????
 
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oyster67 said:
We are save when we are born again. Salvation is a choice that each individual needs to make in his or her lifetime. Is this new to you?????
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Yes and that ' power ' is because of the resurrection. We are saved by his life . Yes Justified by his blood . But only if the atonement is received. Rom 5. The Atonement is but one part of salvation. Its not the execution of it .
 
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Very good. Glad to see that you got the point. Jesus is God, not just another Lazarus raised from the dead.
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Jesus was not raised from the dead because he is God, that he always is.

God raised him from the dead, as the divine receipt, that all our sins are forever put away.

That is what 1 Cor 15:17 is saying "If Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins".
 
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Acts 17 .
31Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance( Pistis) unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
 
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