Cool! I Found Jesus in The Old Testament!

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10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
 

Dino246

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Excellent! It's wonderful when you discover gems like that for yourself. It's a veiled prophecy of Jesus. Keep looking... there are many more! :)
 

Nehemiah6

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...and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him...
Behold, He cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. (Rev 1:7)

And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. (Jude 1:14,15)
 
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Howany other's are there?
The Bible teach us that everything is about Jesus, so He is everywhere in the OT. The question is how deep are you prepared to go? :)

A time ago, people got upset if you told them to study the Hebrew, but today it is the norm and more acceptable because many people came to realize that the OT is actually about Jesus.

Take the Hebrew meaning of the names in Genesis 5 for instance:

ADAM– “man” / “mankind” (Root word “Adamah” which means “earth”

SET – “Appointed” / “Appointed another seed”

ENOSH – “Mortal” / “Being Mortal” from the Hebrew Root word “Anash”

KENAN – “Sorrow”

MAHALALEL – Consists of two Hebrew words:“Mahalal” which means “Blessed’ / “Praised” and “EL” which means God. The name thus means: “Blessed/Praised of YHVH”

YERED – “Shall Descend” / “Shall come down”

CHANOCH (ENOCH) – means “teaching” “To teach/instruct people”

MATUSHELACH – consists of two Hebrew words:

Met – which means “death”

Shelach – which means “Shall bring forth” Put them together and it reads “Death shall bring forth”

LAMECH–“Despairing” / “Those in despair”

NOACH– “Comfort” / “Rest”

Together: “Man/Mankind appointed mortal sorrow. The blessed/praised of YHVH shall descend/come down and teach/instruct people that His death shall bring, those in despair, comfort/rest.
 
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10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
That was Zech 12:10 Check out 13: 1, 6, 7

1In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

6And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.

7Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
I know it is difficult to see the connection but when Jesus told them to buy a sword and Peter said they had two, Jesus said it is enough and they go forth and Jesus is arrested, and Peter uses the sword and is rebuked and then you wonder why Jesus told them to get a sword, I think it was to fulfil this verse from Zech 13:7. ....(maybe :))
 
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10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Yes I can Imagine James and Mary at the cross,Someone you know and love being crucified wrongfully.
 
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Yes I can Imagine James and Mary at the cross,Someone you know and love being crucified wrongfully.
John 19
26When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

33But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs: 34But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. 35And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe. 36For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. 37And again another scripture saith, They shall look on him whom they pierced.
 

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10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Congrats. He is there in every book of the OT.
 

posthuman

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anonymous777888 said:
Cool! I Found Jesus in The Old Testament!
me too!

In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne,
high and lifted up, and His train filled the temple
(Isaiah 6:1)
here that's 'Adonai' = the Lord; it is the Christ, who took off His robe and put on flesh to dwell among us
 

Blik

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To get a true picture of what the Lord is telling us in scripture, it is wonderful to study it as being from the same God in the new and old testament, and see how the same truths are given in both.

As an example, the book of Matthew can be studied by referring to all the old testament the very Jewish Matthew referred to in his gospel. The sermon on the mount opens up through the old testament. Matthew was speaking to hundreds of Jews who learned old testament through the synagogue, not by reading it. The synagogue studied traditions of Jews more than scripture. Christ was the son of God, true to the Father and said he changed absolutely nothing of the Father. By keeping in mind these things, that gospel becomes straight from the Lord.
 
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GINOLJC, to all,
Addressing the OP, you're correct. God, (JESUS), the H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah, is the the ONLY TRUE GOD, who is the H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem'), of himself as the ECHAD. which Genesis 1:1 clearly States. the Echad of the (FIRST, and the LAST), right there in Genesis 1:1 the very first scripture in the bible. The aleph and the tav
Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

the term "BEGINNING" describe God as the ECHAD of First and Last.

Beginning, it is the Hebrew word,
H7225 רֵאשִׁית re'shiyth (ray-sheeth') n-f.
1. the first, in place, time, order or rank.
2. (specifically) a firstfruit.
[from the same as H7218]
KJV: beginning, chief(-est), first(-fruits, part, time), principal thing.
Root(s): H7218

Just as in John 1:1, "Beginning",
G746 ἀρχή arche (ar-chee') n.
1. (properly abstract) a commencement.
2. (concretely) chief (in various applications of order, time, place, or rank).
[from G756]
KJV: beginning, corner, (at the, the) first (estate), magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule
Root(s): G756

these are the KEYS in Finding our Lord Jesus the Ordinal FIRST in the OT. and those keys are " order", "time", " place", and "rank"

PICJAG, 101G.
 

Blik

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GINOLJC, to all,
Addressing the OP, you're correct. God, (JESUS), the H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah, is the the ONLY TRUE GOD, who is the H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem'), of himself as the ECHAD. which Genesis 1:1 clearly States. the Echad of the (FIRST, and the LAST), right there in Genesis 1:1 the very first scripture in the bible. The aleph and the tav
Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

the term "BEGINNING" describe God as the ECHAD of First and Last.

Beginning, it is the Hebrew word,
H7225 רֵאשִׁית re'shiyth (ray-sheeth') n-f.
1. the first, in place, time, order or rank.
2. (specifically) a firstfruit.
[from the same as H7218]
KJV: beginning, chief(-est), first(-fruits, part, time), principal thing.
Root(s): H7218

Just as in John 1:1, "Beginning",
G746 ἀρχή arche (ar-chee') n.
1. (properly abstract) a commencement.
2. (concretely) chief (in various applications of order, time, place, or rank).
[from G756]
KJV: beginning, corner, (at the, the) first (estate), magistrate, power, principality, principle, rule
Root(s): G756

these are the KEYS in Finding our Lord Jesus the Ordinal FIRST in the OT. and those keys are " order", "time", " place", and "rank"

PICJAG, 101G.
Many struggles with the question of what Christ meant by making things new: Did Christ cancel what was old, did Christ explain it, did Christ reconcile all.

Christ said of what the old testament said about the law: you have been told, but I tell you. Some say Christ cancelled what had been told, and gave a new law. Others say Christ explained and completed what was. Your post points out what Christ himself pointed out, that Christ explained the old testament.
 
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Many struggles with the question of what Christ meant by making things new: Did Christ cancel what was old, did Christ explain it, did Christ reconcile all.

Christ said of what the old testament said about the law: you have been told, but I tell you. Some say Christ cancelled what had been told, and gave a new law. Others say Christ explained and completed what was. Your post points out what Christ himself pointed out, that Christ explained the old testament.
Correct, if one want to know and understand the NT, one need to know and UNDERSTAND the OT.

for the OT is the NT hidden, and the NT is the OT revealed.

PICJAG, 101G.