Revelation 17:8

Did this beast receive it's deadly wound prior to the Revelation being given to John and it's writing according to the angel? https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/17.htm

Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

5 are fallen 1.Egypt 2.Assyria 3.Babylon 4.Medo-Persia 5.Greece.

1 is at the time John wrote Revelation 6.Roman Empire.

One is to come in the future 7.10 horn kingdom which is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section which the Bible says they shall devour the earth, tread it down, and break it in pieces(Daniel 7:23).

Which the one to come shall continue for a short space which is three and one half years.

The 7 heads are the same as the 7 kings, kingdoms in Revelation 17, and the 10 horns is the physical dominion of the beast.

Why do you think that "a short space" would necessarily have to be such a short period of time

Because that is what it literal means.

G3641
ὀλίγος
oligos
Thayer Definition:
1) little, small, few
1a) of number: multitude, quantity, or size
1b) of time: short
1c) of degree or intensity: light, slight
Part of Speech: adjective
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: of uncertain affinity
Citing in TDNT: 5:171, 682


Same word is used here which is actually the same basic timeframe:

Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

He knows he doesn't have a long time to do what he wants to the world which makes him so very angry. In the last verse of the chapter Satan goes off to begin the Great Tribulation which is a shortened period of time of great persecution and harm against the body of Christ.

So - in other words - it could be 5 minutes...

In the context of Revelation 17:10, it could be centuries. Why? Because of the lengthy times of the other 'kings' mentioned in that verse.

Jesus told us that the Great Tribulation was shortened so it's less time than it was originally going to be and originally it was 7 years which is pretty short anyways.

What makes you think that the 'Great Tribulation' was "originally" going to be 7 years?

Something in Daniel about 7 weeks which most scholars interpret as 7 years. So shortening that down to half, 3.5 years or 42 months makes sense and fits that it was shortened as Christ said.

No because we know the Great Tribulation is 42 months and Satan was kicked out of heaven before that so his time to be free upon the Earth before being imprisoned is more than 3.5 years but we aren't told how much time passes from being kicked out of heaven until he starts that 42 month trib.

Hello ewq1938,

The war in heaven where Satan and his angels are cast out and are restricted to the earth, has not yet taken place, but will in the middle of the seven years. The following scripture supports this fact:

"And the woman fled into the wilderness, where God had prepared a place for her to be nourished for 1,260 days."

"And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle to fly from the presence of the serpent to her place in the wilderness, where she was nourished for a time, and times, and half a time.

The 'time, times and half a time' and 1260 days, is the last 3 1/2 years of that seven year period. When the dragon/Satan sees that he has been cast to the earth, he pursues the woman/Israel where she cared for during that 1260 days.

That Satan being cast out of heaven as being a future event is also supported by Revelation 1:19 where John was told to write:

What you have seen = everything written from Revelation 1:1 thru 1:19

What is now = Represented by the letters to the churches, which also represents the entire church age.

What will take place later = All events which take place after the 'what is now,' i.e. after the church period.

We are currently living in the 'what is now' portion of what John was told to write. Once the Lord appears to gather his church, then the 'what must take place later' will begin. Revelation 4:1 is a prophetic allusion to where the church is gathered by that voice that sounds like a trumpet (Jesus), which says "come up here and I will show you what must take place after" which is synonymous with "what must take place later." Therefore, since Revelation 4:1 is where the church is gathered and which ends the church age and which hasn't happened yet, then all the events which take place afterwards, including Satan and his angels being cast out of heaven, are all future events.

In addition, Satan and his angels being cast out of heaven will be the result of the sounding of the 7th trumpet. And since the seals have not even been opened, which precede the trumpets, then that war in heaven spoken of in Revelation 12 could not have possibly happened. Not only that, but is also called the third woe, which would bring woes upon the people of the earth during that last 3 1/2 years.

The seven years has not been shortened. This is a misinterpretation of the scripture. The seven years is divided into two 3 1/2 year periods. The seven years will be initiated by that ruler, the antichrist, when he establishes his seven year covenant in part with Israel. The middle of the seven is marked by the setting up of the abomination in the temple. It is this last 3 1/2 years which is referred to as the great tribulation, which is where the beast will have come up from the Abyss and will be the power behind the man of lawlessness/antichrist. It is when he will proclaim himself to be God and is where he will begin to persecute Israel and the great tribulation saints.

When Jesus says "If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be cut short." He is saying that if those last 3 1/2 years were allowed to go on any longer than that, no one would be left alive on the earth. He is not saying that the 3 1/2 years will be shortened. A better interpretation of the verse would be 'If those days were allowed to go on any longer than the specified time, then no one would survive.'

"Near",,,,"at hand" ect. is how the day of the Lord was spoken of in Scripture for hundreds of years before the birth of Jesus ... https://biblehub.com/interlinear/zephaniah/1-14.htm https://biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/13-6.htm https://biblehub.com/interlinear/ezekiel/30-3.htm https://biblehub.com/interlinear/joel/3-14.htm https://biblehub.com/interlinear/joel/1-15.htm https://biblehub.com/interlinear/joel/2-1.htm https://biblehub.com/interlinear/obadiah/1-15.htm

And, what if "most scholars" have misinterpreted those verses?

Thank you, brother!

I have been trying for a very long time to get people to understand this type of thing with regard to biblical prophecy.

God's prophecy must be looked at according to God's timing.

I don't think they did and like I said, God shortened the trib and since it's now 42 months, it was longer before that and the only evidence we have for a longer trib comes from Daniel. Where in the OT do you see the original length of the GT?

And, what if "most scholars" have misinterpreted those verses?

What if those verses have absolutely nothing to do with the End Times Scenario?

What then?

Toledot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledot "is the week of prophecy" https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/2-4.htm the Lord was cut off in the midst(half/approx.) of this week,,,the seven times of the earths generations from beginning to end.