Easter Celebration, Is It Biblical?

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Truth7t7

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The bible dosent teach to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ?

The tradition followed is of pagan origin in fertility, that predates the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ, surrounding the spring vernal equinox and full moon, easter bunnies and eggs "fertility"

Why does this "Easter" tradition dste change every year, because it follows the vernal equinox, full moon, and Sunday to follow, (Pagan)

The only instruction the believer has, is to remember the Lords death, simple :)

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

1 Corinthians 11
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
 

mustaphadrink

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What most people forget or refuse to acknowledge is that Jesus was addressing Jews steeped in Jewish tradition. At the same time, the New Testament church was birthed as a Jewish Church, and what he was teaching them would have been in that context.

The passover meal was an annual event, not a monthly, weekly or daily event. Therefore unless he gave them instructions to change this, which he didn't, they would have continued to celebrate this annually which they did. So, whatever spin you put on it, it was an annual event.

The interpretation that is usually put on it is quite incorrect and I have explained why is several other threads so I don't intend to repeat myself here.

If one cares to do a semblance of study, it is not too difficult to find out that easter was a pagan festival and has no part in the life of the true church. Apart from the feasts that the Jews celebrated which were Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, Trumpets, Day of Atonement, Booths, Dedication and Purim, they did not add easter (or christmas) or any other pagan celebration and turn it into a christian event.

it is very easy to understand why. They were Jews and did not stop being Jews when they became followers of the risen Christ. Originally they were know as "The Way" and were considered a branch of Judaism. That did not change until the pagans at Antioch started calling them Christians.

So there are two very definable facts. One is that the New Testament Church did not and were not told to celebrate easter. And two, they did not and were not told to celebrate christmas. The second one is more obvious as Christ was not born in December for the simple reason that December was winter and often snow covered the ground so no shepherd would be out in the fields with his sheep.

For those who have done their homework, Jesus was born in April. That fact alone means that christmas is a man made attempt to give credence to something that did not exist.
 

Magenta

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Why does this "Easter" tradition date change every year, because it follows the vernal equinox, full moon, and Sunday to follow, (Pagan)
Passover was also always on the first full moon following the vernal equinox.

When darkness covered the land in the middle of the afternoon as Jesus died...

Nobody could say it was a solar eclipse, because those cannot happen when the
moon is on the far side of the earth opposing the sun as it does when it is full.
 

mustaphadrink

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#4
What most people forget or refuse to acknowledge is that Jesus was addressing Jews steeped in Jewish tradition. At the same time, the New Testament church was birthed as a Jewish Church, and what he was teaching them would have been in that context.

The passover meal was an annual event, not a monthly, weekly or daily event. Therefore unless he gave them instructions to change this, which he didn't, they would have continued to celebrate this annually which they did. So, whatever spin you put on it, it was an annual event.

The interpretation that is usually put on it is quite incorrect and I have explained why is several other threads so I don't intend to repeat myself here.

If one cares to do a semblance of study, it is not too difficult to find out that easter was a pagan festival and has no part in the life of the true church. Apart from the feasts that the Jews celebrated which were Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, Trumpets, Day of Atonement, Booths, Dedication and Purim, they did not add easter (or christmas) or any other pagan celebration and turn it into a christian event.

it is very easy to understand why. They were Jews and did not stop being Jews when they became followers of the risen Christ. Originally they were know as "The Way" and were considered a branch of Judaism. That did not change until the pagans at Antioch started calling them Christians.

So there are two very definable facts. One is that the New Testament Church did not and were not told to celebrate easter. And two, they did not and were not told to celebrate christmas. The second one is more obvious as Christ was not born in December for the simple reason that December was winter and often snow covered the ground so no shepherd would be out in the fields with his sheep.

For those who have done their homework, Jesus was born in April. That fact alone means that christmas is a man made attempt to give credence to something that did not exist.

On a personal note, last week I attended a new chhurch start up and I didn't take communion and was asked why so I told them. I was assailed with all sorts of esoteric reasons why I should take communion, none of which was found in scripture, but it contained all sorts of spiritual and mystical powers that made it a special moment to advance ones christian walk. I had to not try to laugh as everything I was told when deciphered and sorterd out were things that I do every day without a thimbleful of wine and a piece of bread.

It was clear that what started out as a Jewish meal celebration has been turned into a mystical nonsense that is given magical powers that do not exist.
 

Truth7t7

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#5
What most people forget or refuse to acknowledge is that Jesus was addressing Jews steeped in Jewish tradition. At the same time, the New Testament church was birthed as a Jewish Church, and what he was teaching them would have been in that context.

The passover meal was an annual event, not a monthly, weekly or daily event. Therefore unless he gave them instructions to change this, which he didn't, they would have continued to celebrate this annually which they did. So, whatever spin you put on it, it was an annual event.

The interpretation that is usually put on it is quite incorrect and I have explained why is several other threads so I don't intend to repeat myself here.

If one cares to do a semblance of study, it is not too difficult to find out that easter was a pagan festival and has no part in the life of the true church. Apart from the feasts that the Jews celebrated which were Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, Trumpets, Day of Atonement, Booths, Dedication and Purim, they did not add easter (or christmas) or any other pagan celebration and turn it into a christian event.

it is very easy to understand why. They were Jews and did not stop being Jews when they became followers of the risen Christ. Originally they were know as "The Way" and were considered a branch of Judaism. That did not change until the pagans at Antioch started calling them Christians.

So there are two very definable facts. One is that the New Testament Church did not and were not told to celebrate easter. And two, they did not and were not told to celebrate christmas. The second one is more obvious as Christ was not born in December for the simple reason that December was winter and often snow covered the ground so no shepherd would be out in the fields with his sheep.

For those who have done their homework, Jesus was born in April. That fact alone means that christmas is a man made attempt to give credence to something that did not exist.
I agree, Easter and Christmas are man made not biblical, both are of Pagan origin

Easter: Spring fertility rites, following the vernal equinox

Christmas: The Roman Saturnalia, in the winter solstice

As for partaking in the Lords supper in remembrance, it's a direct instruction to do so, I dont care about your mystical encounter wherever you attended,that tainted you experience
 

Truth7t7

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Passover was also always on the first full moon following the vernal equinox.

When darkness covered the land in the middle of the afternoon as Jesus died...

Nobody could say it was a solar eclipse, because those cannot happen when the
moon is on the far side of the earth opposing the sun as it does when it is full.
No place in the bible, is the christian instructed to remember the Lords resurrection, or follow the vernal equinox, full moon, to arrive at a (Sun)day (Sun)rise celebration :giggle:
 

Magenta

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No place in the bible, is the christian instructed to remember the Lords resurrection,
or follow the vernal equinox, full moon, to arrive at a (Sun)day (Sun)rise celebration :giggle:
Nor did I say we were :) On the other hand, I hope none forget it, either ;)

 

JaumeJ

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No place in the bible, is the christian instructed to remember the Lords resurrection, or follow the vernal equinox, full moon, to arrive at a (Sun)day (Sun)rise celebration :giggle:
In the Word we are taught that sun, moon and stars are for signs and seasons. Back in the early times of mankind and the beginning of the writings we are taught there were astrologers, however not thoe we hear of today who have made up a zodiac and claim it governs lives or worse.

The early astrologers under the tutelage of the Word were more akin to astrophysicists of their time with date directly from our Father.

So a definite YES, new moons were noted back in that day. Also the moon determined the first day of each month what with having the Lunar calendars in usage. It was changed much later renaming months after false gods and numbered days also. Let us not take our faith to bring us to antisemitism.
 

mustaphadrink

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I agree, Easter and Christmas are man made not biblical, both are of Pagan origin

Easter: Spring fertility rites, following the vernal equinox

Christmas: The Roman Saturnalia, in the winter solstice

As for partaking in the Lords supper in remembrance, it's a direct instruction to do so, I dont care about your mystical encounter wherever you attended,that tainted you experience
Just to make it clear it did not taint my experience as I had studied the subject quite extensively many years ago and had already came to what I would consider a biblical conclusion. I have yet to find anyone who can elucidate their version of communion from scripture without reading into scripture what is not there.

And I speak as one who attended a Brethren Bible College and was around the brethren movement for about 12 years.
 

Truth7t7

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In the Word we are taught that sun, moon and stars are for signs and seasons. Back in the early times of mankind and the beginning of the writings we are taught there were astrologers, however not thoe we hear of today who have made up a zodiac and claim it governs lives or worse.

The early astrologers under the tutelage of the Word were more akin to astrophysicists of their time with date directly from our Father.

So a definite YES, new moons were noted back in that day. Also the moon determined the first day of each month what with having the Lunar calendars in usage. It was changed much later renaming months after false gods and numbered days also. Let us not take our faith to bring us to antisemitism.
Antisemetism?

Big Smiles To That (False Claim)

Once Again, No place in the bible, is the christian instructed to remember the Lords resurrection, or follow the vernal equinox, full moon, to arrive at a (Sun)day (Sun)rise celebration :giggle:
 

Truth7t7

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Just to make it clear it did not taint my experience as I had studied the subject quite extensively many years ago and had already came to what I would consider a biblical conclusion. I have yet to find anyone who can elucidate their version of communion from scripture without reading into scripture what is not there.

And I speak as one who attended a Brethren Bible College and was around the brethren movement for about 12 years.
Ok get it, Plymouth Brethren, Ole John N. Darbyites

Yes the Brethren are really mystical on the Lords supper, especially the exclusives, I fully understand now

Must have been a real experience, the exclusives are like a cult in their own
 

Nehemiah6

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The bible dosent teach to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ?
Actually the Bible does teach us exactly that.

THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST IS TO BE CELEBRATED WEEKLY ON THE LORD'S DAY. And that is why it was designated as "the Lord's Day".

Therefore there is absolutely no reason to avoid it as a special annual remembrance. The Passover was to be remembered annually by the Jews, and since Christ out Passover has not only been sacrificed but risen again, this is even more significant.

As to the pagan connections to Easter, those were discarded a long time ago. And things like Easter eggs and bunnies are just plain old commercialism.
 

JaumeJ

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Antisemetism?

Big Smiles To That (False Claim)

Once Again, No place in the bible, is the christian instructed to remember the Lords resurrection, or follow the vernal equinox, full moon, to arrive at a (Sun)day (Sun)rise celebration :giggle:
Apparently you read the poening and closing of my post, not the main part. No, I do not accuse any of anti anything, but I do warn against becoming so.
 

Truth7t7

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Actually the Bible does teach us exactly that.

THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST IS TO BE CELEBRATED WEEKLY ON THE LORD'S DAY. And that is why it was designated as "the Lord's Day".

Therefore there is absolutely no reason to avoid it as a special annual remembrance. The Passover was to be remembered annually by the Jews, and since Christ out Passover has not only been sacrificed but risen again, this is even more significant.

As to the pagan connections to Easter, those were discarded a long time ago. And things like Easter eggs and bunnies are just plain old commercialism.
Three paragraphs on opinion, not one scripture showing a directive to remember the Lords resurrection, waiting :giggle:
 

Truth7t7

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Apparently you read the poening and closing of my post, not the main part. No, I do not accuse any of anti anything, but I do warn against becoming so.
Observation of the New Moons and Sabbath days are (Eternal)

Yes you randomly suggested Antisemitism in your post, really o_O

Isaiah 66:23KJV
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
 

GiveThanks

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What most people forget or refuse to acknowledge is that Jesus was addressing Jews steeped in Jewish tradition. At the same time, the New Testament church was birthed as a Jewish Church, and what he was teaching them would have been in that context.

The passover meal was an annual event, not a monthly, weekly or daily event. Therefore unless he gave them instructions to change this, which he didn't, they would have continued to celebrate this annually which they did. So, whatever spin you put on it, it was an annual event.

The interpretation that is usually put on it is quite incorrect and I have explained why is several other threads so I don't intend to repeat myself here.

If one cares to do a semblance of study, it is not too difficult to find out that easter was a pagan festival and has no part in the life of the true church. Apart from the feasts that the Jews celebrated which were Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, Trumpets, Day of Atonement, Booths, Dedication and Purim, they did not add easter (or christmas) or any other pagan celebration and turn it into a christian event.

it is very easy to understand why. They were Jews and did not stop being Jews when they became followers of the risen Christ. Originally they were know as "The Way" and were considered a branch of Judaism. That did not change until the pagans at Antioch started calling them Christians.

So there are two very definable facts. One is that the New Testament Church did not and were not told to celebrate easter. And two, they did not and were not told to celebrate christmas. The second one is more obvious as Christ was not born in December for the simple reason that December was winter and often snow covered the ground so no shepherd would be out in the fields with his sheep.

For those who have done their homework, Jesus was born in April. That fact alone means that christmas is a man made attempt to give credence to something that did not exist.
How did you arrive at April for Jesus's birth? Based on what I've read it was closer to summer. But im not swearing by it, because it is just speculation, but you seem sure it is April.
 

Nehemiah6

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It was clear that what started out as a Jewish meal celebration has been turned into a mystical nonsense that is given magical powers that do not exist.
Since the Lord Himself instituted the Lord's Supper -- as distinct from the Passover Meal and AFTER it-- you are the one talking nonsense.

The apostolic churches observed the Lord's Supper every Lord's Day (the first day of the week), and that automatically included the fact of His resurrection. The Lord's Day was meant to be a weekly Remembrance of the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. It is significant that the Bible says that Christ visited the apostles ON THE EIGHTH DAY after His resurrection in order to meet with Thomas, who then worshipped Him. It is also significant that Paul waited until the first day of the week to meet with the disciples in Troas when they "broke bread" (the Lord's Supper). It is also significant that Christ met the apostle John who was "in the Spirit" on the Lord's Day (at the beginning of the Revelation of Jesus Christ).

Also Christ was not born in April, but in early September. And He was crucified on the 14th day of Nisan in AD 30 (which would correspond to the time that Good Friday and Easter are celebrated in March-April). There has been nothing pagan about Easter for many centuries, so that is simply a straw man argument. However, Good Friday should actually be Good Wednesday to fulfill three days and three nights as prophesied by Christ.

As to the Lord's Supper, it is meant to be a Remembrance Feast on a weekly basis. If churches have attached a mystical meaning to it or perverted it into the Eucharist, that is something else.
 

Nehemiah6

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Three paragraphs on opinion, not one scripture showing a directive to remember the Lords resurrection, waiting :giggle:
The problem with many today is that they do not have the ability to read what is IMPLIED in the Scriptures. That is another aspect of unbelief. And that is your problem. And while I could give you a lengthy exposition using Scripture, it would fall on deaf ears.
 

Truth7t7

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How did you arrive at April for Jesus's birth? Based on what I've read it was closer to summer. But im not swearing by it, because it is just speculation, but you seem sure it is April.
I have read Aug-Sep,with an explanation that shepherds were in the field with their flocks, and come Oct-Nov they are put up for cold weather, canceling Dec 25th as a birth date, seems logical?
 

GiveThanks

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I have read Aug-Sep,with an explanation that shepherds were in the field with their flocks, and come Oct-Nov they are put up for cold weather, canceling Dec 25th as a birth date, seems logical?
Yes that's what I read.