Daniel 11:37, The Future Antichrist Will Be A Jew/Hebrew In Decent

I made a small boo boo, I stated king of Persa, then king of Greece and Rome because you called him a king, I know you meant the Prince of Persia (Dan 10), so that makes it seems like I contradicted myself, saying hes never a KING on this earth thus he has NO CROWNS, but in fact, he was called the PRINCE of Persia, in other words, he's UNDER Satan. (Felt I needed to get that corrected)

You are on the right track, let me explain where we see Joel 2 in the book of Revelation.

Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams(1), your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. 30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.(2)

31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood(3), before the great and terrible day of the Lord come. 32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call.

1.) Israel repents and thus God pours out his spirit on them.

2.) An Asteroid hits the earth, pillars of smoke from the impact and burning trees gets in the jetstream and travels the world.

3.) This will cause the Sun and Moon to be dimmed by all the smoke, and the moon will appear to be BLOOD RED from all the fires. The Day of the Lord starts with this ASTEROID IMPACT, this happens IN THE PRESENCE (as in BEFORE a King's Face) of the day of the Lord, the word used actually means FACE, so these events happen in the FACE or before the kings face so to speak, OR just in the presence of the Day of the Lord, not BEFORE the DOTL gets here. The old Hebrew has to be studied, it's a primitive language.

Now, I will show you where all these things happen in the book of Revelation.

Rev. 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

Ever wonder why the 7th Seal is in chapter 8 AFTER the 144,000 are protected (3-5 million Jews) by God in Petra/Bozrah for 42 months? Because this is the coming DAY OF THE LORD Event. The Seals actually DO NOTHING, they are Jesus prophesying (like Joel did) what would come when this asteroid finally hits the earth.

2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. 3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. 4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. 5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

Notice, Jesus says nothing after the 7th Seal like he did with the first 6, but we are just shown the Angels readying the 7 Trumpet Judgments instead. The Prayers of the Saints are offered in Heaven, that would include the Two-witnesses down on earth who PRAY DOWN all the plagues during the 70th week. The Angel cast FIRE down on earth, and there was VOICES/LIGHTENING, and an Earthquake. (an Asteroid Impact, but before that FIRE.)

6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. 7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up

Scientists have confirmed that just before an Asteroid make IMPACT, Fire comes down ahead of it, so the First Trumpet Judgment is FIRE, and 1/3 of the trees burn up and all the grasses.

8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

Now the Asteroid makes IMPACT. (Mountain cast into the Sea), notice it's on FIRE, and thus a 1/3 part of the sea becomes blood, 1/3 of the creatures die, 1/3 of the ships perished. I actually think the 1/3 is a DESCRIPTION of where this asteroid hits. This asteroid heading our way named Apophis would likely hit just off the California Coastline near Mexico if it hits (I think it will for sure). Thus it hits in the the Pacific Ocean in the Americas. The Pacific Ocean has 1/3 of all the waters on the face of the earth, and the Two Americas (North and South) also have 1/3 of all the Landmass on the earth, so I pers9nally think the 1/3 is a HUGE CLUE as per to where this hits. Naturally, Jesus is going t reign from Jerusalem, so I don't think he could have picked out a better location to semi protect Israel/Jerusalem from this devastation.

10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Here we are told about the EXACT SAME IMPACT again, but why? Notice it's called Wormwood, a STAR but w saw verse 2 called the Mountain out as being on fire, so why show it twice? This is about the Nuclear Fallout from the IMPACT, which poisons the fresh waters over 1/3 of the world, or in the Pacific realm. (WORMWOOD = POISON).

12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

The above simply shows what Joel 2:31 prophesied, but also what Jesus prophesied via the 6th Seal. The SEALS DO NOTHING !! All of God's Wrath comes via the 7 Trumps.

13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

So, the Angel just told us above, the LAST THREE WOES are the LAST THREE Trumps.

So, Trumet #5 is the First Woe. Trumpet #6 is the 2nd Woe and Trumpet #7 is the 3rd Woe, which is ALL 7 Vials.

So, Joel chapter 2 is indeed seen in Rev. 8, Rev. 9, and Rev 16.

Calling Michael one of the chief princes does not change that he is a prince and that the prince is the messiah.

The devil is called a prince too, but that doesn't mean the devil is the messiah. We understand this.

There's a prince of peace and a destroying prince. If you can't distinguish between the two, then I don't know what to tell you. I'm not particularly bothered if you think my logic is "sloppy" or if you don't agree with me or think I'm waaaaaaaaay out somewhere.

We can apply this same line of reasoning to other things.

Ketchup is a condiment. Mustard is a condiment. Therefore, ketchup must be mustard. You are a human being. Kamala Harris is a human being. Therefore, you must be Kamala Harris. Of course, this is argument ad absurdum. How is it different from the argument you are making.



I did not mention the devil being a prince. I do not equate the Prince of Persia with the Devil who tempted Jesus in the wilderness. I suppose it is possible, but I would imagine there are a number of such beings.

I just do not see that you are presenting a very convincing case. This bit of doctrine is highly speculative. it is not worth blaspheming.

I'm not reasoning the Bible, I'm listening to it.

The devil is also a prince, and a chief prince, the prince of the world with dominion over it and demons.

Michael has been identified as the chief messenger. He has been identified as a chief prince that stands for the people which tells us he is not the devil. The prince has been identified as the messiah which also tells us he is not the devil. Jesus is the head of all men and angels. Jesus proclaimed his own word out of his own mouth on earth to man. He is the archangel who is referred by the name Michael who is always contending with the devil.

The bible has made the case and I've seen it.

Psalm 119:18 Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law.

I'm not reasoning the Bible, I'm listening to it.

The devil is also a prince, and a chief prince, the prince of the world with dominion over it and demons.

Michael has been identified as the chief messenger. He has been identified as a chief prince that stands for the people which tells us he is not the devil.

The prince has been identified as the messiah which also tells us he is not the devil. Jesus is the head of all men and angels. Jesus proclaimed his own word out of his own mouth on earth to man. He is the archangel who is referred by the name Michael who is always contending with the devil.

Micheal is not Jesus, it's not a debatable point brother, sometimes we have to cut bait and move on, in spite of what we were taught as we were brought up. I was taught the universe was 6000 years old in our church as a youth, do you think I just accepted that as a fact?

Why this matters is this mere question can be seen as blasphemy by God, and Satan knows this, thus he pushes these kinds of oddball inquiries. I kinda let people do their own thing(s), but I also must warn people according to Ezekiel 3:18, or else I place myself in peril by not doing so.

The information provided is not enough to reasonably support your conclusion. Saul was a prince. There were numerous princes of Israel. Sometimes, prophets prophesied about the wrong-doing of 'princes.' Michael is called one of the chief princes in the same passage where we read about the 'prince of Persia.' The Messiah is called a 'Prince', but that does not prove that He is Michael, or the prince of Persia, or Saul. The book of Hebrews says, 'he took not on him the nature of angels.' There is not scripture that identifies him as 'the angel of the Lord.'



Again, if you are wrong, do you want to be a blasphemer or an idolator or a bearer of false witness? Is it worth the risk? The scriptures you have presented have not proven your case.

What is the real reason you think this? Do you think the WatchTower is a prophet, or the Ellen G White is a prophet, so if they said that Michael is the Messiah, that it must be true?
The bible has made the case and I've seen it.

Psalm 119:18 Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law.

What Angel do you know of that has the authority to pardon or not pardon transgressions? Or should I ask, is there any Angel that has the authority to pardon or not pardon transgressions?

Jesus means SALVATION. Every time you see Salvation in the Old Testament with a pronoun, it's speaking of what Jesus' calling was, to SALVAGE the sinners. Micheal doesn't mean Salvation, God doesn't send mixed messages, Names are VERY IMPORTANT.

...wondering if the future antichrist will be a indecent Jew

If they called Jesus a blasphemer, why would I be surprised if someone calls me a blasphemer?

Because you aren't Jesus or espousing His righteousness by calling Him Michael the archangel. He never taught that nor even suggested it once in the gospels. Outside of the gospels, the claim that Michael is actually Jesus has been debunked.

You've been shown the scriptures, but rather than alter your position and ceasing from your claims you persist in searching to create evidence to support your claims.

What kind of exegesis do you call this?

For your consideration:

Exodus 23:20 Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.

yes he will . he will be born without the seed of Man also.

So then there is no Angel that has authority to pardon or not pardon transgressions?

For your consideration:

Exodus 23:20 Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.

As I stated, Angel can be a messenger, thus Jesus can bring a message and be the Lord God also. But nowhere is Micheals's name mentioned here, so you once again CONFLATEN ISSUES.

You auto assume this means Micheal, that is your error. I intuitively know by the Holy Spirit Micheal is not Jesus. You start out with that bad assumption, so you auto make this Micheal when that is NEVER STATED here, is it?

If you had read, or maybe you did, my post on this way back I stated Micheal can be a messenger which is what Angel means and so can Jesus, but only Jesus can be the Lord AND a messenger of God the Father, Micheal can only be a messenger, not the Lord.

The word used for Angel here can also mean priest, prophet, or teacher. The priest sprinkles the blood that absolved the Jew's sins in the holies of holies. So, there are other angles possible, your mistake is you auto assume (for some reason) this as to e Micheal, I see nowhere where the text says that. Micheal is not Jesus. You want proof, look at the chapters Daniel 10, 11, and 12 which were all ONE VISION, Daniel saw Micheal, Gabriel, AND The Man in Linen (Jesus). God is not confusing him by calling Jesus Micheal AND the Man in Linen in the exact same vision. You can now put that theory to rest brother. Micheal ain't Jesus.

I always overcome these supposed contradictions, because they are just contradictions in name only for the most part. Oversight by us fallible men.