The new Woke movement

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luigi

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it is deception. Those ow the woke movement are racist, hateful and attack those who are not like-minded. The windmill in California where I am kills more birds and causes more environmental fires than Fossil fuel ever did. The whole enviromental movement is built on fear and lies. And those with deep pockets are triggering those who are ignorant, unlearned and teaching them to hate their country based on the sins of other people's past. it a deceptive scheme.
There are many groups in the woke movement throughout the world today who are recognizing injustices. You first describe one faction here in the U.S. representing the whole of the Woke movement, and claim them racist, hateful, who attack those who are like minded. You then move to the global Woke movement on the environment claiming the whole environment movement is built on fear and lies. While I will agree that those who recognize the earth's destruction being destroyed by fossil fuels are to some degree afraid for themselves and their families by those in government and industry who are destroying the world (Revelation 11:18); the majority consensus among scientists worldwide is that global warming is causing ever greater levels of damage to our environment. God will take care of this, however, after the dragon, the beast, and the Antichrists 1,260 world order comes to a close. God will then punish those on high for the destruction they have caused on the earth (Isaiah 24:20-21).

Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Isaiah 24:20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. 21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
 

luigi

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But knowledge of the truth is the knowledge that our world is run by the Lord. That is the truth, and worldly people think they are the ones who are completely responsible for the world, when they are so stupid they think the world of the flesh is all there is.

In fact, many people who say they are Christians feel the fleshly world is more important than the spiritual world, and it isn't. The world of the Lord, the spiritual world, is eternal. The flesh dies.
While the world is overall run by the Lord; man's choice in the garden to believe the devil rather than God, has placed the devil in charge of this (the devils) decaying world.
 

luigi

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Your ignorance of Biblical matters astounds me. Grabbing a verse here and there to promote your political ideology just wont wash.
I read the bible, and therefore I correlate data from one book with another book that describe the same series of events occurring at the same end of times period. I then post these scriptures to support my claims. I don't see anyone else stitching these end times scriptures describing the same sort of events together. Rather than get discombobulated, maybe you can try explaining your contradictory position to my correlations in scriptures with some of the Word yourself?
 

luigi

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Which is why your use of the term, "woke" is completely wrong. The jargon-slang use of "woke" does not refer to an awareness of the truth about the state of things, but rather, alignment or, more commonly, actual agreement with the left's ideology on these and other subjects.
By claiming the Woke movement who around the world are crying out for the numerous injustices occurring to themselves and others as leftist ideologists, you are in effect taking sides with transgressors like Bolsonaro in Brazil who is murdering indigenous natives throughout the Amazon so that ranchers can move in after burning the rain forest. I and others are awake to the truth in this circumstance, while the world's nations pretty much wink and look the other way with the Genocide and burning of the Amazon taking place there.
 

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I read the bible, and therefore I correlate data from one book with another book that describe the same series of events occurring at the same end of times period. I then post these scriptures to support my claims. I don't see anyone else stitching these end times scriptures describing the same sort of events together. Rather than get discombobulated, maybe you can try explaining your contradictory position to my correlations in scriptures with some of the Word yourself?
Have fun trolling.
 

luigi

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Woke is a lie. So perhaps leave out that word. People are awakening to truth about lies. Can you give me three specific lies you believe people are awaking to?

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Can you name 2 injustices, specifically, you think the world is awakening to? Thank you.

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The Lord gives us numerous examples of the injustices caused by the love mankind has for the works his hands produce.

Revelation 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
 

luigi

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You should not be accepting what is "all over the news everyday" and adopting the deceptions you are hearing there.
Climate alarmism is deception. Governments don't oppose it. They promote it. They don't oppose "Woke" agenda they promote it.
They have you right where they want you. Believing a load of nefarious propaganda.


If you are truly concerned for the welfare of the planet, seek the wisdom of the one who created the planet.
Drop the false narratives of mainstream media & extremist political movements. You can't spin those agendas as righteous.
Lucy, the world's governments promote what the people want to hear, and then do the opposite. The world's governments since the Kyoto protocol in 1998, have all been saying that they will do this and that in order to mitigate climate warming from fossil fuel use. The only result has been an annual increase in fossil fuel burning by industry. Maybe with the exception of last year due to Covid 19, that shuttered industries temporarily, and caused a temporary clearing of the skies in many cities and industrial areas throughout the world.
 
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kaylagrl

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The Lord gives us numerous examples of the injustices caused by the love mankind has for the works his hands produce.

Revelation 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
I didn't ask a general question. Specifically ...

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What are people waking up to? Please answer in kind, thank you.
 

luigi

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I must have a different thought about what “woke “ means

to me I seem to gather that it is the source of all Of the twisted ideology arising

a woke person in my thought just how I take it needs to be enlightened and become aware of other folks like say forminstance “ a transsexual “ woke means we need to accept that as an acceptable lifestyle that there’s nothing wrong with

they feel as if the world is not suitable for groups like transsexuals. Or another example I take is to be woke we need to support gay marriage and celebrate that it’s oerfectly Normal and nothing is wrong with that the world needs to become equitable to them and stop “ oppressing them “ with our biblical ideas “ of right and wrong

I think the racial component is only one of Many arms of this world movement of universal acceptance of everything from trans gender surgery being morally good and valuable , to gay marriage , to any other form of morality God set in place

I am no authority on woke Ism so I’m not claiming to be right or that my way is the only way to see it but I see the woke movement as an assault on Christian values established in the word of God as perfectly equitable if they are kept and adhered to

the Bible supports referring to racism , that all are judged by the content of character and not outward apoearance or gender much like mlks wonderful I have a dream speech

race is like a wrapper the peanut butter cup is the same in a colorful wrapper or black and white. Perception of race is a childs perception in a biblical sense but perception of a persons character revealed in thoer deeds is maturity
The twisted ideology from the Q Anon faction and other conspiracy theories is not associated with the peoples throughout the world who are crying out against all the injustices they and others are experiencing.
The definition of being awake (Woke) is to be aware of some truth. To classify those who are awake to some truth as having a twisted ideology would have to be from the darkness, those who believe in repression and injustice.
 

Nehemiah6

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There are many groups in the woke movement throughout the world today who are recognizing injustices. You first describe one faction here in the U.S. representing the whole of the Woke movement, and claim them racist, hateful, who attack those who are like minded.
You have a very rosy view of a very destructive and hateful movement whose main objective is to DESTROY everything (particularly things which are beneficial). The Woke Movement is based and built on lies. Marxist and Communist lies. It is supposedly about social justice and racial justice, but it is all about hatred for whites, and giving blacks a free pass, no matter which crimes have been committed. That is not justice but injustice.
 

Nehemiah6

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repression and injustice
MORE BALONEY. Blacks never had it so good as when Obama -- a mixed race black man -- actually became president of the United States. And it is Obama who is behind all this garbage talk about repression and injustice. He has fueled racial hatreds and tensions and continues to do so. And it appears that you are simply repeating Leftist lies.
 

Dino246

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By claiming the Woke movement who around the world are crying out for the numerous injustices occurring to themselves and others as leftist ideologists, you are in effect taking sides with transgressors like Bolsonaro in Brazil who is murdering indigenous natives throughout the Amazon so that ranchers can move in after burning the rain forest. I and others are awake to the truth in this circumstance, while the world's nations pretty much wink and look the other way with the Genocide and burning of the Amazon taking place there.
Your argument is based on a false dichotomy. My opposition to the “woke” movement as a whole does not in any way mean that I support everything that ignorant sjw’s oppose.

Instead of spouting the same ignorance, learn some basic logic and don’t make baseless accusations.
 
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kaylagrl

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The twisted ideology from the Q Anon faction and other conspiracy theories is not associated with the peoples throughout the world who are crying out against all the injustices they and others are experiencing.
The definition of being awake (Woke) is to be aware of some truth. To classify those who are awake to some truth as having a twisted ideology would have to be from the darkness, those who believe in repression and injustice.

Against what injustice? Name them specifically. Or are you unable to answer the question?
 

luigi

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I didn't ask a general question. Specifically ...

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What are people waking up to? Please answer in kind, thank you.
People are waking to the fact that those in power, and those on high in industry, could not care less about the environment being destroyed by their excessive use of fossil fuels, if it means their making less money. For this love of money, those on high in industry, along with the kings of the earth, they pay off, do whatever making more money takes to do. This usually means burning more fossil fuels, and squashing whoever gets in the way of doing so.
Revelation 9:21 & 18:23-24 are the results worldwide.
 

Blik

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Lucy, the world's governments promote what the people want to hear, .
When I read the novel War and Peace, it pointed this fact out, saying the Napoleon came to power only because of the thoughts and attitudes of the citizens of France. I studied the rise of Hitler, then, and found that was true of that period of history.

We have a great rise in the idea that works are not of importance for the Christian because it is not works that save us. That is true. But faith that does not result in our trying our best to work for the Lord is no faith in the lord at all. It is through our wanting to represent the Lord best we can that the power of the Lord for justice and good happens. We need to know it is our faith that saves, but we are not to use that fact to oppose living with Christ within, and we can't do that and want to live the life of the flesh. We have to choose, societies ways or the Lord's ways. We are sinful at our best, but if we want the sin in our life we are not at our best.
 

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The twisted ideology from the Q Anon faction and other conspiracy theories is not associated with the peoples throughout the world who are crying out against all the injustices they and others are experiencing.
The definition of being awake (Woke) is to be aware of some truth. To classify those who are awake to some truth as having a twisted ideology would have to be from the darkness, those who believe in repression and injustice.
um what if the person considered what God said to be established as truth already and the new woke person was explaining that was wrong though ?

isn’t the truth established here ?

“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭

so for instance if our creator has established that homosexuality is a perversion and abomination the it is so

and if some ideology claims something else that opposes the truth of that the ideology is very twisted and would definately be coming from a persons feelings and perversions

wholeness again as I myself understand it in America is basically mainstream left wing democratic politics

abortion is a right and if you disagree you are oppressing me , that’s an injustice we need to fight against

if you don’t agree with crt then your racist and oppressing us so we need to fight that injustice

if you don’t agree with gays marrying and believe it to be a perversion like all
Sexual sin , you are oppressing me and I need to fight your injustice

if you don’t accept that a man born male has the right to change thoer sexual gender the. You are oppressing me and I need to fight against the oppressors

it’s all an illusion in my belief it’s the world showing itself against God Everything other than the gospel in the world is not the truth we need Tom protect the things our creator established long ago for mankind is the truth we need to protect

woke Ian is a political tool invented by propoganda like “ white people in America are mostly all racist so we need to teach thoer children to feel guilty for it in school .

that’s a lie , I’m white and American and male . And I e met hundreds of people in my lifetime who are white also and truthfully I think maybe five of them said something or did something I thought could be taken as racist but not a single one ever came out with a racist idea of how society should work . It’s all political to fun up division and create voting blocks who vote based on e illusion of these radical inventions of people like aoc and her pals
 
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kaylagrl

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People are waking to the fact that those in power, and those on high in industry, could not care less about the environment being destroyed by their excessive use of fossil fuels, if it means their making less money. For this love of money, those on high in industry, along with the kings of the earth, they pay off, do whatever making more money takes to do. This usually means burning more fossil fuels, and squashing whoever gets in the way of doing so.
Revelation 9:21 & 18:23-24 are the results worldwide.

Ok, so in the sum of things, relating to the Gospel and reaching the world,where do you think fossil stands in importance to God?
 

luigi

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Your argument is based on a false dichotomy. My opposition to the “woke” movement as a whole does not in any way mean that I support everything that ignorant sjw’s oppose.

Instead of spouting the same ignorance, learn some basic logic and don’t make baseless accusations.
Those whose knowledge increases during the end times is in regards to truth, and not about some unenlightened individuals who believe in carnal perspectives in the world. Something like a gay pride march or agenda I do not recognize as an increase in knowledge in truth, and therefore is not a true awakening/woke movement, even if some claim it to be.
 
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kaylagrl

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Those whose knowledge increases during the end times is in regards to truth, and not about some unenlightened individuals who believe in carnal perspectives in the world. Something like a gay pride march or agenda I do not recognize as an increase in knowledge in truth, and therefore is not a true awakening/woke movement, even if some claim it to be.

But what truth? Whose truth?!
 

luigi

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um what if the person considered what God said to be established as truth already and the new woke person was explaining that was wrong though ?

isn’t the truth established here ?

“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭

so for instance if our creator has established that homosexuality is a perversion and abomination the it is so

and if some ideology claims something else that opposes the truth of that the ideology is very twisted and would definately be coming from a persons feelings and perversions

wholeness again as I myself understand it in America is basically mainstream left wing democratic politics

abortion is a right and if you disagree you are oppressing me , that’s an injustice we need to fight against

if you don’t agree with crt then your racist and oppressing us so we need to fight that injustice

if you don’t agree with gays marrying and believe it to be a perversion like all
Sexual sin , you are oppressing me and I need to fight your injustice

if you don’t accept that a man born male has the right to change thoer sexual gender the. You are oppressing me and I need to fight against the oppressors

it’s all an illusion in my belief it’s the world showing itself against God Everything other than the gospel in the world is not the truth we need Tom protect the things our creator established long ago for mankind is the truth we need to protect

woke Ian is a political tool invented by propoganda like “ white people in America are mostly all racist so we need to teach thoer children to feel guilty for it in school .

that’s a lie , I’m white and American and male . And I e met hundreds of people in my lifetime who are white also and truthfully I think maybe five of them said something or did something I thought could be taken as racist but not a single one ever came out with a racist idea of how society should work . It’s all political to fun up division and create voting blocks who vote based on e illusion of these radical inventions of people like aoc and her pals
Carnal issues are of the world. Spiritual issues are of God. Those who increase in knowledge, understand that the unjust world is carnal, and thereby will choose spiritual truth over the unjust carnal world.