How We Can Tell If We Possess The Agape of God
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don't you know the scripture?
Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives? For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man. Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
(Romans 7:1-6)
Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives? For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man. Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another—to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
(Romans 7:1-6)
allow me to enter into the record:
Now this I say lest anyone should deceive you with persuasive words. For though I am absent in the flesh, yet I am with you in spirit, rejoicing to see your good order and the steadfastness of your faith in Christ.
As you therefore have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him, rooted and built up in Him and established in the faith, as you have been taught, abounding in it with thanksgiving.
Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.
In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God.
Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations — “Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,” which all concern things which perish with the using — according to the commandments and doctrines of men? These things indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed religion, false humility, and neglect of the body, but are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.
(Colossians 2:4-23)
read the rest of this chapter.
he gives an example of 'the law we died to and were held by and are no longer under obligation to'
what is that example?
'do not covet' - one of the 10
so what does he mean when he says 'the law' and 'the commandment' ?
does he exclude the 10?
NO.
he, speaking by the Holy Spirit, explicitly includes them. so it is the LORD Himself, that explicitly includes them. it is the LORD Himself who includes the 10 in 'the commandments' when He says the greatest are not even among them, but in Deuteronomy 6 and Leviticus 19, which wolves call mere 'statutes and ordinances'
the excuse that 'the 10' are somehow not implied when the scripture says 'the law' is rubbish, exactly what the Holy Spirit writes Colossians 2 about.
he gives an example of 'the law we died to and were held by and are no longer under obligation to'
what is that example?
'do not covet' - one of the 10
so what does he mean when he says 'the law' and 'the commandment' ?
does he exclude the 10?
NO.
he, speaking by the Holy Spirit, explicitly includes them. so it is the LORD Himself, that explicitly includes them. it is the LORD Himself who includes the 10 in 'the commandments' when He says the greatest are not even among them, but in Deuteronomy 6 and Leviticus 19, which wolves call mere 'statutes and ordinances'
the excuse that 'the 10' are somehow not implied when the scripture says 'the law' is rubbish, exactly what the Holy Spirit writes Colossians 2 about.
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I've already told you I'm not interested in your keyboard psychoanalysis - your blindness to the danger of OSAS demands that you read my posts.
Would you stand on the shoulder whispering for the attention of someone sleepwalking on the freeway?
Likewise, the widespread dissemination of the deadly doctrine of OSAS is leading many, many professed "Christians" to a Christ-less grave because they've been lied to repeatedly about Christian Obligation and do not understand the relationship between faith and works, which is that the latter is the evidence for the former and the lack of evidence for the one proves the non-existence of the other.
So, please...kindly reserve your comments to the topic at hand, thank you.
Would you stand on the shoulder whispering for the attention of someone sleepwalking on the freeway?
Likewise, the widespread dissemination of the deadly doctrine of OSAS is leading many, many professed "Christians" to a Christ-less grave because they've been lied to repeatedly about Christian Obligation and do not understand the relationship between faith and works, which is that the latter is the evidence for the former and the lack of evidence for the one proves the non-existence of the other.
So, please...kindly reserve your comments to the topic at hand, thank you.
You shall keep it as a feast to the LORD for seven days in the year. It shall be a statute forever
(Leviticus 23:41)
does everyone who doesn't keep the feasts and the festivals and the sabbaths go to hell? even those who believe the words of God in Romans & Colossians?
maybe you do not understand what you are reading when you open your Bible, my dude.
I know that which you and the rest of the OSAS crowd doesn't:
...that grace is for the Just Man who falls seven times but rises again -- not for the Presumptuous Man who climbs down into the pit, sits among the filth, swats away Jesus' uplifting hand, and pushes his "OSAS License to Sin" in His face.
...that grace is for the Just Man who falls seven times but rises again -- not for the Presumptuous Man who climbs down into the pit, sits among the filth, swats away Jesus' uplifting hand, and pushes his "OSAS License to Sin" in His face.
yes we understand that to you 'saved' does not mean 'saved' and 'saints' do not mean 'saints'
IOW you believe in meaningless illusions and temporary lies without any assurance or steadfast hope.
but ya ain't answering my question, my dude:
IOW you believe in meaningless illusions and temporary lies without any assurance or steadfast hope.
but ya ain't answering my question, my dude:
- what specifically do 'you intend to' endure in and how do 'you intend to' do so?
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Shake the dust if your feet and walk away from the indoctrinated guy.
Not will to discuss, just attack and accuse.
Two throng approach with a hatred of the OSAS doctrine that seeps into virtually every post he makes.
You all need to realise no matter how many times you tell him as a OSAS believer that you do not teach this doctrine as a license to sin, main one being commit adultery and some others thrown in there he rejects it.
Even @gb9 said to him many times that he is not OSAS and a believer can walk away he continues to accuse him of being OSAS.
Listen I have no problems with the 10 commandments given to Moses.
I have no issues with wanting to be like Jesus summed in the 10 commandments as it's all about love, ok the commandments don't state love but the behaviour required implies love.
And I'm sure that's the same for OSAS and always NOSAS.
Yet the attack attack is that we as OSAS believe it is on not to obedient and no matter how many times you obedience and works follow salvation it's rejected.
He doesn't give jack shit what you say and respond with.
Not will to discuss, just attack and accuse.
Two throng approach with a hatred of the OSAS doctrine that seeps into virtually every post he makes.
You all need to realise no matter how many times you tell him as a OSAS believer that you do not teach this doctrine as a license to sin, main one being commit adultery and some others thrown in there he rejects it.
Even @gb9 said to him many times that he is not OSAS and a believer can walk away he continues to accuse him of being OSAS.
Listen I have no problems with the 10 commandments given to Moses.
I have no issues with wanting to be like Jesus summed in the 10 commandments as it's all about love, ok the commandments don't state love but the behaviour required implies love.
And I'm sure that's the same for OSAS and always NOSAS.
Yet the attack attack is that we as OSAS believe it is on not to obedient and no matter how many times you obedience and works follow salvation it's rejected.
He doesn't give jack shit what you say and respond with.
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