GOD is hiding information from his only Son.

Majority of people in the world are nonelects=armenian gospel does not save
If you ask them if they got the Holy Spirit,
1. They be honest and say no
or
2. They are deceived with the fake Holy Spirit (rolling around the floor like a crazy person with gibberish nonsense talking)
or
3. They lie and say yes

First, I felt the Raw, Almighty Power of God, the Creator of all that is. This Power consisted of nothing but Love and Peace, yet it was so overwhelming . . . so Powerful, that I could not physically endure any more of this Power, lest my body be physically transformed in some way. In other words, when the Bible speaks of dying because a person came too close to the Lord . . . I get it. I have felt this Power, the single most convincing thing that I could imagine. This Power is more convincing than a flash of bright light, or hearing the voice of God. I did not hear God nor did I see any flashes of light . . . nothing at all. I only felt the Power of the Substance that Created all that is. That is vastly more incredible than easily explained away light or audibles.

The effects include my making personal choices, which is to begin to take the Word of God most seriously. After I realized that I am alive simply because God allows it, my humility to Him is a healthy, balanced sense of Fear of the Lord. I both Fear the Power of God and all that He can do, yet I am at total Peace with Him, fully knowing that I am protected.

The effects of Christ are that He Circumcised my Heart of the Adamic Curse, and after being relieved of the Mind of the Devil (the Sinful Nature), my entire life began to change. Not only did I want to change . . . and began to make these efforts, the events of my life fell out of my control and this Life has been Transformed in a way that I can no longer live for myself, but to only Live for God. My life is no longer my own, for I haven't been able to control the course of my Life for years now. Clearly, I am being refined by the Fire of God . . . and while it is utterly painful and mind-boggling, we should all be seeking this kind of Refining Fire, for if we are not Sifted, it means that we do not belong to Him.

The effects of my Indwelling cause my sense of Trust in the Lord to be perfect. I have felt the Power of God, thus I do not worry about my death. I have felt Heaven already, and I am thus aware of what awaits me, for I know that the Lord would not share His Almighty Power with me if I were destined for Hell. So as a result of this event of Awakening, I realized the importance of Holy Obedience. Now that I was taking EVERY verse of the Bible seriously, it became evident that the mark of a Truly Saved person, is the Holy Mark of Obedience. Paul made it clear, which is that those who Truly know Christ, will be totally Transformed. If we are to take the Bible seriously, then Romans 12:2 says that we will be Transformed . . . my entire Life has been Transformed and I continue to seek and work towards growth and change. The effects of being Indwelt is that that I will never be content with mere humanity . . . it is such a vastly weak plane. This world is a painful place to live, and this was predicted to the True Children of God; that their Lives will no longer belong to themselves; that they would be purchased and owned by Christ . . . His personal Property. And I can testify that when we are Truly His Property, we will assuredly know it. And if we have been Transformed by Christ, we will assuredly know it.

I could go on and on and on and on . . . but few are interested. It is when people believe me that they are confronted with the fact that they have not experienced such an indwelling, and it causes them to wonder about their Faith . . . and thus the Bible makes them uncomfortable as I confirm its teachings.

Gibson, it is clear that you have actually read the Bible. But more than just reading, you actually did your very best to pay attention to every detail, and I don't know how you did it, but the Lord allowed you to see the absolute backbone of the Bible, which is the Power of God. God is so Powerful that the Old Testament is pretty much all about God control all people, places, and things. The only way a person can deny such a thing is if they haven't even read nor tried to understand the Plan of God as it unfolds in the chronological Old Testament.

I have literally scoured each word and piece of punctuation in the Bible, using up to seven or eight different colored highlighters to highlight each thought, concept, and idea found in the Lord's Holy Word. I searched for the most amazing concepts and ideas that the Bible was making known to us and I logged them all in an Excel Spreadsheet. After years of organizing and collecting Scriptures, I have found that there is a system to the Lord's Word . . . I have found that He has a Holy and Mysterious Plan. I wish that all could see and know it . . . but as you perfectly said, there is a veil over all of my words (and they are meaningless to the masses).

Simply put, I wish all people would read the Bible in a timeline, chronological order . . . and only read it that way from today onward. To read the Bible all jumbled up is as ludicrous as reading a Stephen King novel in the wrong order of chapters. Only a moron would ever, EVER do such a stupid thing. Well, how much MORE stupid when it is the Holy Word of God? Is there something more important to read and know other than the Bible? Yet we don't even read it in its proper order? I'm so glad that the Lord showed me that this was what I needed to do . . . and I cannot believe how knowing His Plan has changed my entire Life. The story that IS the Bible is Powerful in itself. I Love our Bible. I Love our God!

I think I always knew that I wasn't filled with the Holy Spirit . . . because I was addicted to sexual expressions and experiences and lived from the bottom of an alcohol bottle, so to speak. I was out of control . . . extremely sick, yet though my life contained absolutely no sense of self-control, I still believed 100% in my heart, that I was a True Child of God, and that nothing could ever separate me from His Saving Love. There was no stripper or bottle of alcohol that could get between me and Christ . . . except that there, in fact, was a stripped and a bottle between me and Christ. I was so sick . . . so sick. I hadn't ever read the Old Testament, yet I believe in my Heart that I was a Master of the doctrine of Eternal Security. And though I now believe in that doctrine for different reasons today, I was still sick, sick, sick.

From https://www.gotquestions.org/calvinism.html

Total Depravity - As a result of Adam’s fall, the entire human race is affected; all humanity is dead in trespasses and sins. Man is unable to save himself (Genesis 6:5; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 3:10-18).

Unconditional Election - Because man is dead in sin, he is unable to initiate a response to God; therefore, in eternity past God elected certain people to salvation. Election and predestination are unconditional; they are not based on man’s response (Romans 8:29-30;9:11; Ephesians 1:4-6, 11-12) because man is unable to respond, nor does he want to.

Limited Atonement - Because God determined that certain ones should be saved as a result of God’s unconditional election, He determined that Christ should die for the elect alone. All whom God has elected and for whom Christ died will be saved (Matthew 1:21; John 10:11; 17:9; Acts 20:28; Romans 8:32; Ephesians 5:25).

Irresistible Grace - Those whom God elected He draws to Himself through irresistible grace. God makes man willing to come to Him. When God calls, man responds (John 6:37, 44; 10:16).

Perseverance of the Saints - The precise ones God has elected and drawn to Himself through the Holy Spirit will persevere in faith. None whom God has elected will be lost; they are eternally secure (John 10:27-29; Romans 8:29-30; Ephesians 1:3-14).

You have to know everyone is evil when they are physically born. Salvation is a gift from God, no one deserves it.

God only loves the sheep (God's elects).

But God was willing to have some mercy (to God’s elects), which we don’t deserve because we are all guilty of our sins. At least God was willing to have at least some mercy (to God’s elects), better than no mercy at all.

Isaiah 1:9
King James Version (KJV)
9 Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant (God’s elects), we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.

Romans 9:29
King James Version (KJV)
29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed (God’s elects), we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.

If you wrote that . . . consider yourself fortunate to have been allowed to see such remarkably clear teaching.

How Did Jesus Suffer Eternal Punishment in Only 3 Hours?
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/jesus-eternal-punishment-hours/

https://testallthings.com/2012/01/02/a-study-of-mark-15-verses-33-and-34/

Jesus drank the cup of the wrath of God when he was on the cross, in order to pay for all of God’s elects’s sin debts. Jesus started drinking the cup of the wrath of God=sixth hour and finished at ninth hour. Jesus finished drinking the cup of the wrath of God when he said “It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.” (John 19:30)

Mark 15:33-34
King James Version
33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.
34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
This is extreme real love.
John 15:13
King James Version (KJV)
13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends=God’s elects.(in Hell=everlasting fire)

2Timothy,

I appreciate the compliment and everything you wrote.

Without going into great detail, I seeked like no one I ever met. Over the last 10-15 years while under extreme affliction stress and oppression nonstop.

You and hatedfornoreason if you was given the power and holy spirit which I believe you have, you feel totally safe and accepted.

But no matter how much I wanted God, no matter how much I learned and tried to obey and do what others said, no matter how much I prayed or asked for prayer, God never came to give me the Holy Spirit.

And as we have talked and discussed, the elect chosen always experience the power of the Holy Spirit that alone changes a person acceptably. Without it a person can’t be saved.

So basically I have been tortured all my life from mental physical extreme illness torture and then found that God the creator of me created me to reject me and afflict me with constant hurt. That I never had a chance and He created me to doom me. And that when I prayed for all my family and people I know realizing even tho many abused me with hate while sick, I wanted all to be saved eternally and experience God to love and be changed. But to find that more than likely all of everyone is doomed without a chance even if they wanted God or believe.

So this truth has not been joyful but absolute terror and pain. That the creator created most everyone I know to hate them and not love as I was taught. Even tho a person may be healthy and feel good, if God has not chosen them with Holy Spirit, they are hated cause God only sets His affection on those He chooses.

Hatedfornoreason,

I have read all the doctrine beliefs of Calvinism and I know they are true. The thing I found tho is most calvinists believe they are chosen because they see that truth and mevtally believe. But they have not experienced the power of the Holy Spirit nor believe in all the supernatural things that comes with it. So even tho they know the doctrine truth they don’t realize the difference as you have explained theirs a difference in believing but actually experiencing which always happens if it comes. The masses don’t believe in supernatural power cause even tho they believe they never experienced it and they have to be saved cayse they believe so therefore the supernatural stuff is no more for our day they say. Realizing that amd seeing the Christian world has no idea is so painful for me.

God has mercy for some better than nothing. But do you have empathy abd put yourself in everyone’s shoes knowing that basically everyone you know and around the world is predoomed without a chance? Humans absolutely cannot imagine a God of love would do that. They see God is love in bible which is one attribute of many and they imagine love as we want to be loved and justice. So would it be better for humans the 98% not be born amd their be no creation at all? Cause the only thing I can think this is for since humans can’t choose is entertainment and to see people tortured. They need mercy because it was chose for them to be sinners. They didn’t get to decide to be born not needing mercy. Have you seen any of the hell/heaven testimonies to see how bad it is? People have more mercy even on the worst criminals.

The whole world is Unawares they have no idea and the truth of most everything is really never allowed known to the masses. If it was no one could function and everyone would be in terror. And it’s the most painful thing in the world.

The logical conclusion of Calvinism is that there is no need to preach the gospel, or love God, repent, learn the Bible, or do anything else. If God has His mind made up then we don't need to participate in the slightest. Calvinism is a destructive heresy. I hope you give it a chance to explore why.

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Wow, Gibson . . . I read and feel your stress, strains, and concerns. That said, I am not concerned about your Salvation as you are, despite the fact that you haven’t had a Spiritual Experience to speak of. Keep in mind that there is no Promise or Guarantee that you will feel a Powerful Indwelling by God’s Spirit; at least, not that I am aware of.

I don’t recall what I had previously written to you, but before a person is able to receive the Holy Spirit, they must receive the Circumcision of Christ. Colossians 2:9-15 tells us what this Circumcision is:

Colossians 2:11-14 NLT – “When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature. For you were buried with Christ when you were baptized. And with him you were raised to new life because you trusted the mighty power of God, who raised Christ from the dead. You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross.”

Circumcision is the first Primary Work of Christ. The second piece of Spiritual Work is granting, or Enabling you to Turn and Repent of your sins. Third, God sends the Holy Spirit, and lastly, the death of Jesus pays the debt for your sins. The first element of Salvation is for Jesus to relieve His Chosen ones of the Adamic Curse, the attached Sinful Nature. Until this Evil Nature is removed, it is impossible to Turn and Repent of sins (obey).

Romans 8:7-9 NLT – “For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God's laws, and it never will. That's why those who are still under the control of their sinful nature can never please God. But you are not controlled by your sinful nature. You are controlled by the Spirit if you have the Spirit of God living in you. (And remember that those who do not have the Spirit of Christ living in them do not belong to him at all.)”

So you see, it is impossible to Turn to Christ unless the Curse of Adam and Eve has been lifted. It is impossible, otherwise, humans could do something about their own Salvation. But this is impossible:

Ezekiel 7:13b RSV – “. . . and because of his iniquity, none can maintain his life.” – As you can see, if we are Cursed, there is nothing we can do about it but wait for Christ to alleviate that Curse. And Jesus has been doing exactly that since the days of Adam and Eve, for Able was the very first prophet. How can one be a True prophet of God, yet be Cursed at the same time? So . . . the Curse must be lifted and this is your primary focus and aim. The single most important thing that you can pray for, and hope to obtain in this life, is to experience the Circumcision of Christ.

Spiritual Experiences do not Transform us . . . the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit procure the required changes within us. A Holy Romans 12:2 is not dependent upon an Experience, but it depends on the Spirit of Christ.

Now . . . we need to talk about your sufferings. First, don’t you realize that those who the Lord Loves are the ones who are suffering?

Psalm 146:8 CSB – “The LORD opens the eyes of the blind. The LORD raises up those who are oppressed. The LORD loves the righteous.”

But those who live wonderful, carefree lives . . . here is what the Lord has to say about these types of people:

Read all of Psalms 73 for encouragement, but for now, here is a piece of it:

Psalm 73:3-9, 12, 18 NKJV – “For I was envious of the boastful, When I saw the prosperity of the wicked. For [there are] no pangs in their death, But their strength is firm. They are not in trouble as other men, Nor are they plagued like other men. Therefore pride serves as their necklace; Violence covers them like a garment. Their eyes bulge with abundance; They have more than heart could wish. They scoff and speak wickedly concerning oppression; They speak loftily. They set their mouth against the heavens, And their tongue walks through the earth. “... 12 “Behold, these are the ungodly, Who are always at ease; They increase in riches.” ... 18 “Surely You set them in slippery places; You cast them down to destruction.”

My point is that those who are suffering are the ones who must Endure. Note that I capitalized the word Endure, because, in my opinion, this is a most Holy word. I can tell from all that you wrote that your bank of Holy Wisdom will understand what I am about to say – Only those who are suffering must “Endure.” And you also must Endure, for you have, in fact, been Chosen. In my estimation, you absolutely belong to the Holy Elect. In my estimation, based upon all that you have written . . . you are a True Child of God!

I want you to view your many forms of suffering as Holy evidence of who and what you are. And yes, this means that those who want to be a True Child of God, must be prepared to be hated in this world; to be viewed as rubbish, while the children of the Devil live wonderful, easy lives. But you and me? We are promised to be miserable, for how else are we to feel like Strangers in a foreign land? How else are we to feel like Aliens? We are foreigners and Aliens because we are hated! And we are hated because we tell the Truth . . . hence the name, “Hatedfornoreason.”

As of today, I want you to feel joy because of your sufferings!

James 1:2-3 NIV – “Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance.”

Gibson . . . you ARE going to Persevere. You ARE going to Endure!

Hebrews 12:5-6 NIV – “And have you completely forgotten this word of encouragement that addresses you as a father addresses his son? It says, "My son, do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when he rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son."

From this day forward, no more will you become discouraged because of your sufferings. You are suffering because the Lord Loves you, and in your sufferings, He expects you to turn to Him and no one or nothing else. The more you suffer, the more you are to turn to the Lord for his Love, Holy Guidance, and Eternal Friendship.

If you like, pick the Gospel of Mark and read the entire writing. Why? Because I want you to recognize that Jesus only healed those who were suffering. And this is how it is for you and me. God heals those who are suffering, just as Jesus only healed those who were physically experiencing ailments. But, these physical healings were Living Allegories to demonstrate what happens to a person on the inside . . . their Hearts. Jesus never healed, nor could he (or His disciples) if the person receiving the “healing” did not possess Faith. To be physically healed, and know that the Lord does not squander His pearls upon pigs, a person must already possess Faith. And this Faith is what? Faith is pronounced by Christ when He Spiritually Circumcises the Hearts of His Children.

Gibson . . . I am concerned about your stress over how you are “seeing” things. I don’t want you to feel this way anymore. Rather, I want you to view yourself with confidence as you recognize that God disciplines (sanctifies) you. How else are we to be Sanctified? It seems that to correct behaviors, we must be disciplined by the Lord, and this just isn’t going to feel good. So as long as you know these things, you should rejoice in knowing that you are not of those who live sinful, carefree lives! You are different . . . and you do not belong in this world, and you never will . . . ever again.

I believe in you!

Mr. Gibson . . . I wouldn't worry about Calvinism anymore. Focus on Colossians 2:9-15 and let these passages show you the Core of the entire Bible. Let God speak to you . . . not John Calvin. In fact, if I were you, all that I would do is begin to study the entire Bible, but study the Bible through the "Triangle of Truth," which is the below three sets of Scripture. These three passage sets will open up your mind if you are diligent in trying to understand them in terms of understanding the entire Bible.

You have to know everyone is evil. I thank God, that God chose me as one of his elect.

Romans 9:11-29
King James Version

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.
27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.

If you find out you are nonelect=just enjoy your life while you can and forget everything to do with Christianity.
Be a honest atheist.
If you find out you are God's elect, pray to God, do his will, mature as one of God's elect. (My life=minimum wage job and side jobs, thank God for every blessing, pray to God, experience the fruits of the spirit=love is the best, preach the true gospel everywhere, read bible, read and watch sermons, talk to God's elect that I know)

Really don't know why nonelect church people try to have both. They are constrained and have less enjoyment in life.

I think it is absurd for us to think that Jesus actually lied to his brothers, knowing his person and character. Sometimes we tend to misinterpret the scripture if we base the interpretation purely on the letter of the word.

If we take the reading from verse 1 to 8, it becomes clearer that what he was telling the brothers was that he was not going to the festival in the way and manner they wanted him to go because his time was not fully come. That he later went in secret shows that he intended going but not in the way the brothers advised and he gave his reasons for that. When the time came, we saw his triumphal entry into Jerusalem, openly not in secret with multitudes following and singing hosanna in the highest, knowing that this is he that comes in the name of the Lord. Mt21:1 -11; Lk19:28 -44 ( also narrated in John and Mark gospels)

We should take note that the scripture also says his brothers did not believe in him and so their urging him on could mean telling him to go and prove himself to the world if he knew he is real. But, we know he need not prove himself to anyone for time will tell.

You give me the ultra-rude "red X" in the same moment that you deny the obvious Scripture. Incredible.

Look at the text. Jesus wanted to keep His attendance of the festival a secret. Tell me, with simple English, what Jesus DID to keep His attendance a secret. All you have to do is copy and paste . . . no need to circumvent the simple text, as just about all translations say the same . . . exact . . . thing.

How could God choose only you as his elect and make everyone else evil bro?

That ultra - rude red x as you called it is only saying that I do not agree with your interpretation. There is nothing rude about it for it is the CC standard for saying I disagree.

Relate that to his triumphal entry into Jerusalem and you will understand why he said what he said.

Do you honestly, with a sober mind, believe that that is actually what HFNR is saying? Come on.