How to be a Christian without really trying.

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Gideon300

Well-known member
Mar 18, 2021
5,354
3,153
113
#1
Once we are born again, we receive new nature that wants to please God. However, we find also that we are beset by problems, sins and difficulties that seem to hard to overcome. We end up like Paul in Romans 7. We finds that our good intentions are derailed by inner desires that conflict with God's standard.

Some respond with despair and give up. Others try the best that they can. Christian bookshops are full of self help books that give methods to assist in our self improvement program. Yet still there is a nagging sense of failure. How can we possibly be like Jesus, who is God's standard for mankind?

First and foremost, we must discover what it means to be born again. Our problems usually stem from out attempts to change from the outside in. We think that if we modify our behaviour, we must be pleasing God. Many people end up in a cycle of trying, defeat, promising to do better and failing again. God permits this. He wants us to become totally disillusioned with ourselves. However, we must not stop there. We must go on to find the answer. It is much easier than we imagine. It is so simple that many never get it.

The answer is Christ and the cross. The cross terminates our old, dead spirit man. That means that we are no longer who we used to be. Galatians 2:20 is one of the most famous verses in the Bible. This is the literal translation:

"I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. And that which I now live in the flesh, I live through faith from the Son of God, the One having loved me and having given up Himself for me."

The emphasis is mine. Most translations translate "from" as "in". No, we have faith because we have Jesus within. Can you see this? "I" am crucified. That can be hard to accept. God deems you so beyond repair that he consigns you to the grave, never to return. "And yet I live.........." How can this be possible? It is simple. Lord Jesus did not stay dead. This is why the resurrection is so central. In order to be accepted by God, we must be alive. Would you want a dead person in your home? As an aside, that is my issue with universalism. God can forgive sin, but only those who accept Christ in this life are made alive. It is God who puts us into Christ - 1 Corinthians 1:30. So we die with Christ and we are raised with Him to new life.

Lord Jesus said that He came to give us abundant life. He also said that He is the Life. What does this mean? I have cat and a dog. Nobody would ever confuse the two. They are physically similar, but entirely different by nature. Those who are born again are as different from sinners as a cat is from a dog. Trying to be something that you are already is not very clever. Imagine going to try outs for the Olympics when you've already been selected for the team.

One of the verses in the Bible that blew me away was 1 John 4:17. Look it up See if it the same impact. Ionce began counting how many times the NT says "in Christ...", referring to what we have and who we are In Him. I got to 50 before I thought, "That's enough! I get the picture!"

Watchman Nee puts it something like this: God is not a chemist dispensing medications for our ills. He does not give us humility to deal with pride, patience to deal with impatience or faith to overcome doubt and unbelief. No, God gives Christ to be our all in all, to be everything that our longing hearts need or want. It's all ours in Christ Jesus. Our role is to learn to live in it.
 

BrokenSparrow

Senior Member
Sep 12, 2016
437
145
43
#3
Good post. Nicely explained.

This is something that God has been working with me on. So it is a pleasant confirmation to see your post in regards to it. Your post has complimented and added to my teachings and explained so much for me. :)

I'm not good with explaining, but it seems so much of my Christian life has been me trying, trying, trying and failing, failing, failing.

God has been working with me on learning what it truly means to be in Jesus.

Jesus has already overcome the enemy and the world. So if I set my mind(renew my mind in Him) toward knowing and believing that through him I am a new person and it is he that has set me free, then all else will follow in my life.

Who the Son sets free is free indeed. No need to try we are already free in Him. He has made the way and given us a new heart and mind. If we love and trust God with all of our soul, heart, and mind. Then we love his ways and keep his commandments through his Son Jesus Christ who is also our advocate with the Father. We are no longer ignorant to the devices of the enemy.

If I turn to myself and try to go it on my own then I will always fail. But if I trust in the Lord and walk with Him in the spirit then I am more than a conqueror through Him. Sin has no more dominion because of the blood of the Lamb.


Jesus has already broken the chains of sin, broken the curse against us, and stopped the mouth of the accuser (Satan). All we need to do is believe in Him, and walk in the Spirit with Him. In him we are new creations and we are overcomers.

There are so many wonderful scriptures that testify to this fact.

Revelation 12
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
 

tourist

Senior Member
Mar 13, 2014
42,595
17,062
113
69
Tennessee
#4
Good post. Nicely explained.

This is something that God has been working with me on. So it is a pleasant confirmation to see your post in regards to it. Your post has complimented and added to my teachings and explained so much for me. :)

I'm not good with explaining, but it seems so much of my Christian life has been me trying, trying, trying and failing, failing, failing.

God has been working with me on learning what it truly means to be in Jesus.

Jesus has already overcome the enemy and the world. So if I set my mind(renew my mind in Him) toward knowing and believing that through him I am a new person and it is he that has set me free, then all else will follow in my life.

Who the Son sets free is free indeed. No need to try we are already free in Him. He has made the way and given us a new heart and mind. If we love and trust God with all of our soul, heart, and mind. Then we love his ways and keep his commandments through his Son Jesus Christ who is also our advocate with the Father. We are no longer ignorant to the devices of the enemy.

If I turn to myself and try to go it on my own then I will always fail. But if I trust in the Lord and walk with Him in the spirit then I am more than a conqueror through Him. Sin has no more dominion because of the blood of the Lamb.


Jesus has already broken the chains of sin, broken the curse against us, and stopped the mouth of the accuser (Satan). All we need to do is believe in Him, and walk in the Spirit with Him. In him we are new creations and we are overcomers.

There are so many wonderful scriptures that testify to this fact.

Revelation 12
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Actually, your explanations are articulate and your perceptions are quite refreshing.
 

BrokenSparrow

Senior Member
Sep 12, 2016
437
145
43
#6
Actually, your explanations are articulate and your perceptions are quite refreshing.
Thanks tourist. You and @Magenta and others here, truly are an inspiration to me. It is so nice to find loving, caring, and encouraging people like you to interact with.
 

Lynx

Folksy yet erudite
Aug 13, 2014
27,364
9,377
113
#9
Short version: "Living for God hard is easy. Living for God easy is hard."
 

Lynx

Folksy yet erudite
Aug 13, 2014
27,364
9,377
113
#11
Expanded short version: "Living for God like you mean it is easy. Living for God like you're still trying to stay as close to the world as you can get away with is hard."

It's kinda like sweeping the floor. If you vigorously send everything flying to one corner and sweep it up, it's easy. If you do it slow, it takes longer and more energy overall.
 

Blade

Well-known member
Nov 19, 2019
1,779
624
113
#12
Hey GID.... to simply trust that what He started He will finish..