Why do we argue?

Why is it that, when one scripture says one thing, and another seems to contradict that, we glom onto one and dismiss the other? Why can't we admit that, hey, these 2 seem to contradict but since God is not a God of chaos there must be a void in my understanding? It's like we'd rather dismiss half of what God says than admit our human understanding fails us.

anything not understood with help of the spirit in us (Christ) can or will be schewed. therefore, the true (r) the follower, the more they find / come to know of truth. the one who begins (again or to begin with) with the realization that they don't know ---- can find much. the one whose mind has closed down around wherever / however it has closed down / off 'new' revelation (as it were, though it's is not new or unknown to God ---- but will / appear to be new, or strange or even wrong in many cases -- because of spiritual lack / immaturity / hardened heart / or mind) will find themselves stuck in a mind - box for however long they refuse or do not allow themselves to become as a child (open-minded). Matthew 18:3 - 4

https://christianchat.com/threads/once-saved-always-saved-osas-debunked.201128/post-4642237

I fully concur with your estimation.

I have become convinced that we need to look to the church of the apostles, the church of the first 300 years, for the true church of the Lord to lead us. It was before the church looked to men to lead them but only to the apostles.

They all felt that the true church was a church of living for Christ, not thinking only for Christ. God, they said was love. So through love they allowed everyone to interpret scripture as they would. What they stood united on were the core principles of the Lord like salvation and all of Christ.

As Paul pointed out, things like what day to go to church was nothing to divide them. They did't argue law, they all had absolute faith in what Jesus told them to do. When there were heresies like the Gnostics they argued, but never took the sword to them as happened after man took over leadership of the church in 313.

Maybe the same reason they did back then We tend to think since is not written ever talk every fight.. they just loved each other.. greeted with other with a holy kiss. It was never them.. what was in them...is in those that also believe in Jesus Christ. He has never changed.. we did. Its not how they did it... its seeing that Christ in them how they loved Him more then life..saw people through His eyes.. it was His love in them we get to read about and can have be like that in a heart beat. All of Him or some of Him and some of the world.

Pride is the culprit. No need to argue with a prideful person...pride blinds a person.

God has hidden His Truth from the proud but reveals it to the humble.

I think people read verses like John 16:13 and get it in their heads that they can never be deceived or mislead.

What happens when you put a bunch a people who all believe different things, yet think they can't be wrong, in the same room? (Or in this case a message board)

It's like an unstoppable force comes up against an immovable object.

From what I've seen, most people can't recognize this in themselves. Best thing I know to do is just don't be discouraged. If you tell people the truth then atleast a seed was planted. God can work with seeds.

The root cause is religious pride. It's fine to say you do not know, or to disagree with someone else. What is not fine is when that becomes judgement and condemnation. God says we need the unity of the Spirit and the bond of love. Doctrinal unity is nowhere near as important.

I don't think it is pride that is at the root, it is the misconception that God wants us to thing our living for Him, when God wants us to live our life for Him, it is in what we do.

We have a deep desire for truth and justice. But with experience, we need to be selective about which debates we give energy into

Act 15:36 And some days after Paul said unto Barnabas, Let us go again and visit our brethren in every city where we have preached the word of the Lord, and see how they do.
Act 15:37 And Barnabas determined to take with them John, whose surname was Mark.
Act 15:38 But Paul thought not good to take him with them, who departed from them from Pamphylia, and went not with them to the work.
Act 15:39 And the contention was so sharp between them, that they departed asunder one from the other: and so Barnabas took Mark, and sailed unto Cyprus;
Act 15:40 And Paul chose Silas, and departed, being recommended by the brethren unto the grace of God.
Act 15:41 And he went through Syria and Cilicia, confirming the churches.

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

versus

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2:8-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

or this

“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Versus

“What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:15-18, 20-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we often simply refuse the message for the sake of single verses plucked out of the message and stacked up to create an illusion . So that the message becomes unacceptable to us

single verse theology never pans out either way if we do it with grave verses that seem to make it no condition

and we do it with obedience and repentance verses and neglect the grave parts

those two elements go together to accomplish this

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭2:11-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

but when we make it a single verse construction it can only cause conflict with the other side of that whether we do it with repent repent and obey or we do it with grace and no works grace alone nothing else to see

Most often grace alone no work ever needed versus what’s grace? Gotta be perfect in works

It takes hard work and serious study to reconcile seemingly contradictory verses. And frequently the well-known commentators themselves lead people astray. Furthermore, there are not too many who invest the time and labor required to rightly divide the Word of Truth. Also people are at various stages of Christian maturity, and that produces arguments and even ad hominem attacks. There are also many who are wilfully blind.

English Revised Version
If any man thinketh that he knoweth anything, he knoweth not yet as he ought to know;

Good News Translation
Those who think they know something really don't know as they ought to know.

I've read that before, but totally forget about it. 😅

Maybe today is a good day to study 1 Corinthians 8.

Why do we argue?






Because you don't always agree with me!

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Because everyone is entitled to my opinion

The answer is because it isn't about God it's aboput proving ourselves right and the other person wrong.
I learned that in debates very few have the maturity and wisdom to ac ctually be in debates everyone attacks each other everyone cherry picks or twists scripture no one ever learns or grows verse after verse is shown and then dismissed. People can claim to do so for the sake of truth but in reality if it was about the truth they might take into consideration what the opposing scripture says.

One has to have the heart of a student to be a good teacher and there are many teachers but few students everyone is so fixated on their point of view they remain blind to truth that is shown to them we all have pour beliefs and interpretations which is fine but if we are set in stone that we are unteachable and are unable to admit we might be wrong we will only ever have endless debates no growth no spiritual maturity no fruits of the spirit.

I enjoy a good debate with other believers but if that debate is just endless arguing and endless throwing of verse after verse most of which taken out of context or made to say what we ant it to say I see no point in that debate. To be in debates one must be like the water standing firm on God moving with the holy spirit like a flowing river able to be both movable and immovable
The spirit must be alive in us for our words to have any power or for the words we speak to impact others.

As a writer I knpow the power words have and when the spirit is in the words we write you can just feel his spirit richly in those words, we must be like water for the spirit to flow like a river we cannot add a blockade of bedrocks because we just want to be right otherwise the river will never reach the field where the wheat is ripe for picking.And like water we must be flexable in our understanding for there are many twist and turns we will encounter

Here here.

“And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬