PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

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shittim said:
Everything is fine,"as far as you know", most who have died from the poison could say that for a while until they succumbed
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Sure, and if he lives another 30 years and then dies, anti vaxxers will be like, "See! I told you! The vaccine from 2021 would catch up to you!"
 
ZNP

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I heard yesterday during the Rally in NYC that the DOE will replace teachers with anyone who can speak english. So teachers with Master's degrees certified in Education will now be replaced by anyone who can pass their very simple english test. Seriously, you can do better with homeschool.
 
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Handyman62 said:
I got the flu shot every year and still got the flu every year. I stopped getting the flu shot and stopped getting the flu. Funny how that works.
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Not really that's what I meant several post back about the shot they prepared that year might not protect the strain circulating that year but think about what you said "you took the shot every year...ect." and then you stopped getting the flu,,, it's because you took them year after year and they worked so you stopped catching it,,,your proof is in what you said happened. Now that you don't take them the immunity will dwindle and you'll start catching it again.
 
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iamsoandso said:
Not really that's what I meant several post back about the shot they prepared that year might not protect the strain circulating that year but think about what you said "you took the shot every year...ect." and then you stopped getting the flu,,, it's because you took them year after year and they worked so you stopped catching it,,,your proof is in what you said happened. Now that you don't take them the immunity will dwindle and you'll start catching it again.
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So he was supposed to catch the flu every year he got the shot? Is that how it works?:unsure:
I don't see how he had immunity if he got the shot and still got sick every year.
 
iamsoandso

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Genipher said:
So he was supposed to catch the flu every year he got the shot? Is that how it works?:unsure:
I don't see how he had immunity if he got the shot and still got sick every year.
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No he took the flu shot (and) he caught one of the strains(influenza A,B,C,D ect.),,,the flu shot he was given did not match the seasonal flu that was circulating that particular year so he still caught the one circulating. So say he caught ten strains and took the shot to protect him from ten strains,,,after ten years his body had seen twenty strains that he has immunity to... His immune system was seeing two strains per year.
 
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More and more I'm starting to think The Babylon Bee is becoming more of a real news source than satire. This is a good example of how so many folks just willingly accept what they're told, to their own detriment:

 
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iamsoandso said:
Not really that's what I meant several post back about the shot they prepared that year might not protect the strain circulating that year but think about what you said "you took the shot every year...ect." and then you stopped getting the flu,,, it's because you took them year after year and they worked so you stopped catching it,,,your proof is in what you said happened. Now that you don't take them the immunity will dwindle and you'll start catching it again.
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That's an amazing claim, where is the proof?
 
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ZNP said:
That's an amazing claim, where is the proof?
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Seemed to me his original post would be proof enough(you marked it informative I think) I agreed with it also. You don't trust any of the medical treatments or the things they say about them? In his post he said he took the vaccine many times but he didn't say actually how many times in years,, I guess I could have multiplied what he said by three instead because for instance last years flu shot protects against H1N1,H3N2 and influenza B(so multiple strains in the same shot). https://www.livescience.com/40279-flu-shot-information.html
 
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iamsoandso said:
Seemed to me his original post would be proof enough(you marked it informative I think) I agreed with it also. You don't trust any of the medical treatments or the things they say about them? In his post he said he took the vaccine many times but he didn't say actually how many times in years,, I guess I could have multiplied what he said by three instead because for instance last years flu shot protects against H1N1,H3N2 and influenza B(so multiple strains in the same shot). https://www.livescience.com/40279-flu-shot-information.html
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It is a bizarre claim that taking a flu shot does not protect you against the flu that year, which someone catches, they do this repeatedly year after year catching the flu the same year they get the shot, then when they stop getting the shot they also stop getting the flu and that is because of the shots they got the previous years.

1. Other interpretations would be that the shot actually weakened your immune system.

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2. It wasn't the shot that conferred immunity is was the fact that he got the flu and recovered that built up his natural immunity.

Do you have any evidence at all that these shots are not completely worthless or worse?
 
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JohnDB said:
And where the antivaxxers are definitely in spiritual trouble with blasphemy of the Holy Spirit
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This went over my head, can you explain how someone who chooses not to get the vaccine is committing blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? Bible verses would certainly be appropriate.

thanks
 
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ZNP said:
It is a bizarre claim that taking a flu shot does not protect you against the flu that year, which someone catches, they do this repeatedly year after year catching the flu the same year they get the shot, then when they stop getting the shot they also stop getting the flu and that is because of the shots they got the previous years.

1. Other interpretations would be that the shot actually weakened your immune system.

or

2. It wasn't the shot that conferred immunity is was the fact that he got the flu and recovered that built up his natural immunity.

Do you have any evidence at all that these shots are not completely worthless or worse?
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Actually the flu shots themselves are deactivated RNA strands of the type A and B influenza that your being given,,the nasal spray is a live virus so it does the same thing as catching it would. That is if you perceive that you have natural immunity to it after you have recovered from it(I thought you did because you said you had natural immunity to it(C-19) because you stated this in post #3796,pg 190 of this thread.) I differ in that opinion though I think that you caught the original(no longer circulating) and will be vulnerable to the mutations about a year from when you recovered. In his case(the other poster) I think he has immunity to the Flu and will for a few seasons but he didn't say what year it was he stopped taking the Flu shots. The reason why is it's been 103 years since the 1918 swine Flu pandemic and it's still here,people still get it,some still die from it and they suggest we get the shot for it. So after 103 years of it there's no reason to think that there's any long lasting immunity to a virus(C-19 or the Flu).
 
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iamsoandso said:
Actually the flu shots themselves are deactivated RNA strands of the type A and B influenza that your being given,,the nasal spray is a live virus so it does the same thing as catching it would. That is if you perceive that you have natural immunity to it after you have recovered from it(I thought you did because you said you had natural immunity to it(C-19) because you stated this in post #3796,pg 190 of this thread.) I differ in that opinion though I think that you caught the original(no longer circulating) and will be vulnerable to the mutations about a year from when you recovered. In his case(the other poster) I think he has immunity to the Flu and will for a few seasons but he didn't say what year it was he stopped taking the Flu shots. The reason why is it's been 103 years since the 1918 swine Flu pandemic and it's still here,people still get it,some still die from it and they suggest we get the shot for it. So after 103 years of it there's no reason to think that there's any long lasting immunity to a virus(C-19 or the Flu).
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I get it that you have a different theory about what happened, what I want to know is do you have any proof for this theory?
 
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ZNP said:
I get it that you have a different theory about what happened, what I want to know is do you have any proof for this theory?
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Yes like I said from 1918 to 2021 is 103 years and the Flu is still here,,,we can still catch it,,,it still kills people,,,their still giving people vaccines for it ect. If you consider that then there is an 103 year long study that includes billions of people who have caught it and millions of people who have died from it and still are. It's the perfect (study/proof) that there's no long lasting immunity to an virus because if that was so then we wouldn't be still catching it nor needing be given the "Flu shot" every year. Again I'm not trying to talk you into an vaccine/Flu shot(take them if you want) but any immunity is short lived to an virus the 1918 pandemic proves this. I just don't think people should think their bullet proof against the Flu nor C-19 whether their vaccinated or if they've recovered from them. They (viruses) mutate and as long as the mutation is less severe we feel safe but if they mutate into a severe form none of us are safe from it.
 
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iamsoandso said:
Yes like I said from 1918 to 2021 is 103 years and the Flu is still here,,,we can still catch it,,,it still kills people,,,their still giving people vaccines for it ect. If you consider that then there is an 103 year long study that includes billions of people who have caught it and millions of people who have died from it and still are. It's the perfect (study/proof) that there's no long lasting immunity to an virus because if that was so then we wouldn't be still catching it nor needing be given the "Flu shot" every year.
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This is not a reasonable conclusion. We had SmallPox on earth for 3,000 years and it was not mutating. If 30,000 people die from the Flu in the US and you assume it has a mortality rate of 0.1% then only 30 million got it. That is 1/12th of the US population. The same holds true of all other countries. Since the flu is a virus that is carried by birds we can get the flu from chickens or geese, or any other migrating bird so of course there can be a variety of strains. So if you just have 3 primary strains it means only 1/36th of the US population contracts any one of these strains in any given year. To make things worse the strains mutate. So even if I get the flu one year and that gives me pretty good protection the next year, with each passing year and all the mutations that protection will wane.
 
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