Why Men Hate Church and No More Christian Nice Guys.

There is a very good chance, that the men you speak of in your post, have commandeered the office of Under-shepherd. They may have a degree behind them but they are not called by God to the position.

When a man is called to the office, they are fearless because they know nothing can happen to them unless God permits it. Their principle aim is to Glorify God and His Christ. They are strong Doctrinally and will Discipline when and where needed. They will continue preaching until their last breath. They think not of retirement. The fear of God is always before their eyes and edification of the Saints is their life. He preaches the Truth in all it's Glory and Power and could care less who it offends. This is a man of God.

All else are wolves in sheep's clothing.

I disagree with this.

I think you are right

I never knew being a Real Christian Man involved owning guns, watching Clint Eastwood movies and being offended by floral patterns on Kleenex boxes. Huh. Wish God would've put that in the Bible. Would've made things a lot easier.

Speaking as a man, the reason I hate most churches is because they can't seem to interpret the signs of the times. They insist on going about business as usual when we're in the middle of massive apostasy. The only place you can get the truth about what's going on is the internet.

Churches are making themselves obsolete. No one has done this to them, they've done it to themselves. The only options for church are heretical megachurches and limp-wristed traditional churches.

We don't need more manly men, we need people (men and women) willing to stand up for the truth.

also, more of a refection of the u s a in general.

men have become docile , and those of us who speak out against things are labeled as having anger issues, being too aggressive , not being " team players".

this has filtered into the modern church..

The internet tells a sad story about the church today. Christ said not to store up earthly treasures (Matt. 6:19 "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth) yet that is just what most Christians do.

Jesus said to love our enemies and do good for those who spitefully use you. Have any of you read some of the enemy talk on this site?

Christ has this to say about divorce: Luke 16:18 “Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. The divorce rate among born again Christians is higher than the divorce rate of Americans as a whole.

We are saved through faith, does this sound like people with faith in all Christ said?

I think it means when the preacher is speaking to not interrupt him for he has the floor which they must of had a problem in that Church.

But women can speak in Church like the men after the preacher is done having the floor.

For a woman and man are equal in the Lord but a man should lead the congregation.

No male female race tribe ect. All are one

Churches are full of disgusting effeminates. I'd rather make friends with atheist men that the typical soft, sissified christian man. Christian men talk about loving their enemies, but it's really just an excuse to avoid conflict. That what it is. Stop lying to yourself. Many, many people are rejecting Jesus because of all the effeminate male "christians".

Is it alright then if a man speaks while the preacher is speaking? Why would Paul single out the women regarding speaking in church?

The men should not talk either while the preacher is speaking, and the Bible says the women should ask their husbands at home so the men should not speak and answer them at Church when the preacher is speaking.

A man should lead the congregation but if a man and woman are equal in the Lord why would the men of the congregation be able to speak but the women cannot speak.

When the preacher is speaking everybody should not be talking to one another bothering the people around them who are trying to hear what the preacher is saying.

A man and woman are equal in the Lord but if the woman is speaking to her husband then she is trying to usurp authority over the man who is speaking and leading the congregation, but the man should also be quiet for the preacher is in charge.

I do not understand why a woman would have to be silent in Church but the men can freely talk if a man and a woman are equal in the Lord.

The Bible says for the man not to answer her but answer at home and that is because the man is not supposed to talk either while the preacher is speaking, for if a man could speak under that condition it would not say for the woman to ask at home but he could answer her then.

Nobody can talk and interrupt the preacher especially if he is led of the Holy Spirit leading the service.

1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

When the preacher is done speaking then the congregation can add to the service and why would not women be able to speak then for a man and woman are equal in the Lord so there is no authority structure there except for the preacher over the congregation.

Both are not true. Just because someone writes a book does not make it true.. to just use the word "hate". Yes every word matters.

Women can talk all they want.. preach as much as GOD says. See some are open to Him.. those are the ones He uses. If one does not believe.. you have nothing to worry out. He will never go against what you believe.

Any man that says women ought to be preaching is an effeminate and part of the problem.

You couldn't emphasize this enough. Why work through problems with your husband when you can just take his children, leave, and use the government to collect money from him- while also suckering a second man into supporting you as well. Rinse and repeat. The prevalence of this in America sickens me- to the point that I would laugh when I heard stories about women losing cases and having to pay child support- but at the end of the day, that's still sickening too. It should never even come to this.

This reminded me of some documentary, or something I was watching about Guantanamo Bay- how some of our own guys were shamed by the Muslims and their reverence for their religious observances, because we run indoors during colors to avoid getting stuck standing at attention for a minute. I suppose if I wasn't a Christian, I could see the appeal.

I agree. My Village has several "Churches", by which I mean, big, old beautiful pieces of architecture. You can watch the people go in every week, coming out the exact same way they came in- there doesn't seem to be any real impact on the town as far as I can tell.

So how, then, do Churches appeal to men? Some Churches do it with women! Yes! Come to Jesus, and get married to one of our wonderful Church women we will introduce you to, and then try to set you up with in a creepy way. She isn't damaged goods, we promise. She is washed in the blood of the lamb! No, a real Church will not do that- and a church that does, will end up with pathetic men.. which is probably what they wanted in the first place. Weak, docile, compliant, subservient men to support their women and pay the budget- not to take an active role in actually doing any church business.
When I look at a Church, I try to figure out...

What does the Church preach and teach? If it's not the Gospel, well... that's all folks.
What does the Church do? If what is being preached is the Gospel, there should be some works going on. Does the church want you to help make an impact? Does the church make an impact IN YOUR TOWN, or just send money away to "Tupajupazakastania" and call it good?- Take a look around you. America needs the Gospel. Not spiritual scraps and spiritual mud to drink, out of SPIRITUAL DUMPSTERS. Not just sayers and hearers of the word. DOERS of the WORD. If they are not doing the word- how are they going to teach anyone else to do the word? And if they don't teach anyone how to DO the WORD, then how is that a Church?

Men "hate going to Church" because deep inside they know that Church is not a place you go- it is something you do and something you become.

Indeed. Men without chests.

Agree with Desdichado.

Too many girly-men inside the Body of Christ! It's disgusting. But I found another reason
(Ok, just one example) of why Christian men are so sissified (or will be) and that's because
of a controlling, dominant Christian wife!

Back in 1999, after having attended a particular independent Christian church in my city,
albeit, for a very short time.... we changed Pastor's because the one we had just wasn't
preaching by the Book, aka, Bible! The one who replaced him was no better. he too believed
in passive Christianity. I left after that. The guy was such a fruitcake. I swore he had blush on
his cheeks because they were so pinkish.

One of the guys from that church left as well. He was a true brother, a real masculine guy
who owned an AR-15, .a classic .357 Magnum and a 9mm automatic. He watched TV cop
shows (both fiction and real); tough guy movies (Bruce Willis, Robert DeNiro, Clint Eastwood);
NASCAR fan, weight-lifting equipment, is a big fan of "Soldier of Fortune" magazine, as am I.
He likes barbecue or steak cookouts; mountain climbing, river rafting.....get the picture now?

He loves his Lord, knows his Bible real well and tried to stomach the puke the new Pastor preaches.
He's now attending another church where the Pastor is more enlightened about men's role in the
church, how men are a very important part of God's plan, but not in an effeminate way!

His wife had had enough of his "lack of compassionate spirit" because he's into "secular things".
She is (was!) of the opinion that he's just wasn't "emulating the love and tenderness of Jesus enough".
She argued with him over silly things like not under standing her feelings....

Yes. Feelings. It's all about feelings.

He called me one evening and told me his wife gave him an ultimata: "Either start living the kind of
life that Jesus wants for us, or it's no more sex for you buddy!!"

She is an attractive woman, so she probably figured he couldn't afford to lose that!

He filed for divorce one week later.


Meanwhile, back at Gilligan's Island......