Mike Huckabee welcomes the consummate conman

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ResidentAlien

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I ran across this video of Bill Johnson of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) on the Mike Huckabee show. His words are smooth and benevolent sounding; but if one understands the true motivation and what he's really saying it's quite disturbing.

He starts by claiming that his efforts to help the community are purely altruistic. Then at 2:48 things take a revealing turn. Johnson says: "Eventually the criticism softens, and we've had a lot of favor turn our way." The whole idea is to have things "turn our way."

Next, Johnson reveals the real agenda. As I've been warning for a long time the NAR has the Seven Mountain Mandate, a form of Dominionism, to take over the seven major spheres of the world. Listen as Johnson distorts the Lord's prayer into a mandate of Dominionism (starting at 3:13). "He said to pray like this: 'Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.' There's no crime there; there's perfect order there; there's prosperity, there's happiness, there's wholeness; there's all that stuff. And so that is apparently His mandate for planet earth and that's our assignment. My assignment isn't to fill the pews, my assignment is to have an impact on the world around me." Johnson should pay closer attention to his own words: it's His mandate, not ours. Ours is to fill pews; in other words, preach the good news of salvation. Johnson says "that is apparently His mandate for planet earth." Apparently? Doesn't he know?

Huckabee continues: "My guess, Bill, is there are a lot of people who come to know Christ because they saw this church doing what churches typically don't do, and they wanted to know: 'What kind of church is that?' " People don't "come to know Christ" because of churches like this because Christ isn't being preached; He's been replaced by good works. Johnson's reply is telling: "Jesus is pretty practical." It's all about the practical—community service, etc. What Johnson doesn't say is most telling of all. He never once mentions that Christ died to save sinners; or that one can have salvation in His name. Huckabee himself seems pretty clueless. People don't find salvation by "coming to know Christ."

"Most assuredly, I say to you, unless someone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."—John 3:3

 

ResidentAlien

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Something else I find interesting in this interview is when Johnson mentions running out of room for their "school." Most people would think, lovely, they've got a Christian school that's overflowing. He's referring to their School of Supernatural Ministry where they teach youngsters to be prophets and raise people from the dead, etc. Funny, I don't recall Peter or Paul needing a school to teach them to heal or raise people from the dead. This model is being exported to many other "churches" around the country and world.

I used to live in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Kenneth Hagin's Rhema Bible College is just next door in Broken Arrow. They have a school based on Bethel's model. Every weekend the students hang out at the city transit station and "practice" their craft. They come up to you with a word of "knowledge" and tell you they'd like to pray for you. If you refuse they get very aggressive and try to convince you that you must need prayer. LOL The whole thing would be laughable if not so annoying. I saw them once harass an elderly homeless woman till she was screaming at them to leave her alone. Reluctantly they finally left.
 

JaumeJ

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Something else I find interesting in this interview is when Johnson mentions running out of room for their "school." Most people would think, lovely, they've got a Christian school that's overflowing. He's referring to their School of Supernatural Ministry where they teach youngsters to be prophets and raise people from the dead, etc. Funny, I don't recall Peter or Paul needing a school to teach them to heal or raise people from the dead. This model is being exported to many other "churches" around the country and world.

I used to live in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Kenneth Hagin's Rhema Bible College is just next door in Broken Arrow. They have a school based on Bethel's model. Every weekend the students hang out at the city transit station and "practice" their craft. They come up to you with a word of "knowledge" and tell you they'd like to pray for you. If you refuse they get very aggressive and try to convince you that you must need prayer. LOL The whole thing would be laughable if not so annoying. I saw them once harass an elderly homeless woman till she was screaming at them to leave her alone. Reluctantly they finally left.
This lasst part of your post reminds me of when the men of God were sharing the Word, the Gospel, with people in a town. There were some people, a could with a daughte4r I believe, and the daughter followed the aposstles around for a few days shouting to the people to whom they spoke, "These men are servants of the Most High God." Finally the Apostles fatigued of her ranting, knowing what was driving her they cast out a demon from her. The couple was very upsset with them for they had been making gain from this unfortunate's oppression. She was left better off than previous to their gift to her I am certain.
 
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Something else I find interesting in this interview is when Johnson mentions running out of room for their "school." Most people would think, lovely, they've got a Christian school that's overflowing. He's referring to their School of Supernatural Ministry where they teach youngsters to be prophets and raise people from the dead, etc. Funny, I don't recall Peter or Paul needing a school to teach them to heal or raise people from the dead. This model is being exported to many other "churches" around the country and world.

I used to live in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Kenneth Hagin's Rhema Bible College is just next door in Broken Arrow. They have a school based on Bethel's model. Every weekend the students hang out at the city transit station and "practice" their craft. They come up to you with a word of "knowledge" and tell you they'd like to pray for you. If you refuse they get very aggressive and try to convince you that you must need prayer. LOL The whole thing would be laughable if not so annoying. I saw them once harass an elderly homeless woman till she was screaming at them to leave her alone. Reluctantly they finally left.
Yeah
I knew a baptist that went fishing and got drunk in his boat, abused his wife and couldnt hold a job.

Therefore all baptists are bad people.
 
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another thread trying to smear the body of Christ.

You still on that accuser of the brethren mode???
 
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I thought the mods stopped you from that evil
 

ResidentAlien

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This lasst part of your post reminds me of when the men of God were sharing the Word, the Gospel, with people in a town. There were some people, a could with a daughte4r I believe, and the daughter followed the aposstles around for a few days shouting to the people to whom they spoke, "These men are servants of the Most High God." Finally the Apostles fatigued of her ranting, knowing what was driving her they cast out a demon from her. The couple was very upsset with them for they had been making gain from this unfortunate's oppression. She was left better off than previous to their gift to her I am certain.
True. Good point.
 

JaumeJ

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Forgive my memory which is kind os slow these days. I believe the possessed girl was a servant, not a daughter...The gist of the post is true to the meaning though.
 

ResidentAlien

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Forgive my memory which is kind os slow these days. I believe the possessed girl was a servant, not a daughter...The gist of the post is true to the meaning though.
Yes, you're right. She was a slave who made income for her masters by soothsaying. She had an unclean spirit of divination which Paul cast out of her.