Jesus Came To Fulfill Not To Destroy

In the context of what you are quoting, Paul makes it clear that it is not the law that brings death, but sin taking advantage of the commandment that is in fact producing death.

If the ten commandments are the law of sin and death, then the law of sin and death is written on the hearts and minds of believers under the New Covenant (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:4, 1 john 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 13:8-10; Romans 5:5; 1 john 2:3-6, 1 Corinthians 9:21).

But it is clear to me that the law of sin and death, spoken of in Romans 8:2, is referring to what was spoken of in the immediate context (Romans 7:14-25, esp. v.21); that it is the principle that "when I would do good, evil is present there with me." (Romans 7:21).

Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Romans 7:9-10
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.


I don't know why you have such a hard time understanding scripture and basic english. This seems pretty straight forward to me.

Is it not?

Yes, it is the LAW which contains the "Seal of God" by which the Holy Spirit seals New Covenant disciples of Christ, while Antichrist has a "Mark" he desires to place upon his disciples, as well. Even Revelation contrasts those who get the Mark with those who do not which "keep the commandments of God", which indicates the Marked ones are BREAKING the commandments of God.

i am quite familiar with the Apostle's clear message that is Authored by the Holy Spirit and not man.

Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God.
Therefore no one will be justified in His sight by works of the law. For the law merely brings awareness of sin.

But now, apart from the law, the righteousness of God has been revealed, as attested by the Law and the Prophets.
And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.

There is no distinction, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.

Brotan - this is a children's Book written for His Children. Faith in Him and His word is KEY

If you have been Born-Again by the Circumcision made without hands you need not earn His Peace.
But seek after the Promise of the Father which the Lord instructed that we should do - John ch1 and Acts ch1 -2

Grace Mercy and Peace to you thru Jesus Christ our Lord - Amen

I've said it over and over again....
There are two laws (more then two), that need to be understood or the bible is contradicting itself.
It makes sense when you realize which law we no longer need to follow and which law defines sin.
We will always need Christs righteousness to cover our sinfulness if there is a law that is actively condemning us today.
No law = no need for Christs blood.

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

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Thayer Definition:
1) to dissolve, disunite
1a) (what has been joined together), to destroy, demolish
1b) metaphorically to overthrow, i.e. render vain, deprive of success, bring to naught
1b1) to subvert, overthrow
1b1a) of institutions, forms of government, laws, etc., to deprive of force, annul, abrogate, discard
1c) of travellers, to halt on a journey, to put up, lodge (the figurative expression originating in the circumstance that, to put up for the night, the straps and packs of the beasts of burden are unbound and taken off; or, more correctly from the fact that the traveller’s garments, tied up when he is on the journey, are unloosed at it end)
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G2596 and G3089
Citing in TDNT: 4:338, 543

Naturally Christ did not come to destroy the law but he did come to fulfill it:



Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.


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Thayer Definition:
1) to make full, to fill up, i.e. to fill to the full
1a) to cause to abound, to furnish or supply liberally
1a1) I abound, I am liberally supplied
2) to render full, i.e. to complete
2a) to fill to the top: so that nothing shall be wanting to full measure, fill to the brim
2b) to consummate: a number
2b1) to make complete in every particular, to render perfect
2b2) to carry through to the end, to accomplish, carry out, (some undertaking)
2c) to carry into effect, bring to realisation, realise
2c1) of matters of duty: to perform, execute
2c2) of sayings, promises, prophecies, to bring to pass, ratify, accomplish
2c3) to fulfil, i.e. to cause God’s will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God’s promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilment
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G4134
Citing in TDNT: 6:286, 867

The word means to complete. When something is incomplete then is completed it is done and finished. Something new then can be started and this is what Christ came to do. The old law was completed so a new law (which is a new Covenant) could be introduced.

It wouldn't be proper to introduce a new law if the old one was not completed and only following that law perfectly could fulfill it.

So the old law was fulfilled and completed and could then be replaced by a new law. This makes the first law "old" which Paul said was decaying.

Destroying something and completing something have the same exact results, in this case decaying:

Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

First of all, the law is the words of a covenant so the decaying of the covenant includes the law of that covenant:

Galatians 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.



Here something called the covenant is also called the law and we know this is the Sinai covenant and the law of Moses because of the dating of it coming 430 years after the promise to Abraham.



God has had covenants with various peoples but as far as the Sinai covenant and the law of it, it started at Sinai with Moses.


Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Paul is using the analogy of the law having been alive like a created living creature who at some point dies and decays and eventually that carcass vanishes. That is the same result had the same creature been destroyed like being near a bomb that explodes. Death and decay and vanishing would also take place.

I think Christ is being clever in denying he was going to destroy the law, but by fulfilling it having the same result as destruction. One is less offensive than the other but the same result is still the same result.

So, while Christ did not destroy the law, he did do something else that did result in the law being made old, replaced by something new, and a figurative death occurring and a figurative decay and vanishing that took place.

Jesus fulfills the law in us by living His life in us and through us (Galatians 2:20); thus the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us (Romans 8:4) in the practical sense; as we walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Galatians 5:16-24)..

True saints realize that God's law must be obeyed <in order> to receive eternal life.

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

that is a good thing you did, however, as you well know, gentiles are under no command to keep the Jewish Sabbath.

nine of the Ten were repeated in the N,T. for gentiles, Shabbat was not.

I know people say that the seventh day “Sabbath” is different from the “seventh day” of Creation and didn’t exist until Moses, but there’s a very good reason why the two are completely synonymous which means it’s existence goes back to Eden. Here’s a bit of logic progression:

1)The Bible says when God blesses something it’s blessed “forever”.

2)Genesis says God “blessed the seventh day sanctified it.”

3)Exodus says God “blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it”.

Therefore, the Sabbath day MUST have been blessed in Eden.

WHY?

Because when God blessed the seventh day in Eden, it makes no sense for us to argue God had to bless it again at Sinai - because “Thou blessest, and it shall be blessed forever”… a second blessing “booster shot” would have been totally unnecessary - it was FULLY blessed way back in Eden.

That means when Exodus says “God blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it”, the blessing Moses was referring to was THAT SAME BLESSING that He bestowed on the seventh day of Eden, and is the unbreakable connection of the Sabbath of Exodus to the seventh day of Genesis, showing that the Sabbath existed all the way back in the beginning.

Heb 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28, He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29, Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30, For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31, It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

We must understand this passage by certain biblical knowledge.

First, we find that according to scripture, Christians are not under the law (Romans 6:14), are dead to the law (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and are delivered from the law (Romans 7:6). Where no law is (where it does not apply), there is no transgression (Romans 4:15); sin is not imputed where there is no law (where it does not apply) (Romans 5:13).

We find in holy scripture, therefore, that "all things are lawful for me" (1 Corinthians 6:12, 10:23).

Now, sin is the transgression of the law (1 John 3:4); so I conclude that as a believer under grace, I cannot sin in the eyes of the Father (1 John 3:9); who looks down on me from heaven and sees the shed blood of my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

So, looking at the passage, how is it possible to sin willfully after having received the knowledge of the truth? All of the things that I have mentioned above are obtained by faith in Jesus and what He did for us on the Cross.

So, I would sin willfully by failing to place my faith in Jesus and what He did for me on the Cross. In such a situation, the sin of transgressing the law would not be covered and I would be sinning against the Lord.

To sin willfully, I think that it would have to be a situation where I am not tempted to sin and a situation where I do not sin out of weakness. It is written,

Psa 37:23, The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.
Psa 37:24, Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand.

I may fall into some temptation; but if I sin out of weakness then there is the possibility that I have not sinned willfully against the Lord; and I ought to look up in my faith and believe that there is indeed forgiveness for me, even in light of this passage.

If I keep faith in Jesus and what He did for me, then I am blessed according to the following scripture.

Rom 4:7, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Rom 4:8, Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

As long as sin is not imputed to me, I cannot sin willfully against the Lord, in the Lord's sight.

So then, the willful sin that is being spoken of in the passage has to do primarily with rejecting faith in Jesus Christ and what He did for us on the Cross.

You have put the cart before the horse.

Those who are truly born again will receive His commandments and obey them as the result.

But a person does not obtain eternal life by obeying the commandments.

Regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost happens "not by works of righteousness which we have done" (Titus 3:4-7).

If I give $5 to the poor, or even $5,000,000, that is not going to procure for me the regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost that amounts to being born again.

That only comes through faith in Jesus and what He did for us on the Cross (1 Corinthians 15:1-5).

A person is regenerated and renewed through faith; not through anything that they might do.

God will not owe any man anything (Romans 4:4); but He offers salvation to everyone as a free gift (Romans 5:15-17). This is the gift of righteousness; which will result in practically living out your faith (1 John 3:7, Romans 5:19, Matthew 5:6, 2 Corinthians 5:7).

Genuine faith produces works (Ephesians 2:8-10); but the same passage tells us that we are not saved / regnerated / renewed by doing good works.

Works that are done apart from faith are dead and have no power to save anyone.

Works that are done in faith do not save anyone either. They are only the evidence before man (Romans 4:2) that a person has genuine faith.

Romans 4:5-8 tells us that righteousness is imputed to us through faith apart from works.

We must realize, that it is the keeping of God’s holy laws that separates the righteous from the unrighteous, the Saints from the Sinners. (Titus: 3:8) This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. You must learn (by the word of God) what God expects of you and maintain his expectations to the end, if you expect to be saved. Jesus says in (Matt. 5:16) Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. You are supposed to glorify your Father in heaven, and let your light shine before men. And how do you do that? By having good works. Sometimes as a Christian you don’t have to say a word, people will see your works.

It’s easy for people to say how much they love the Lord, they may be able to deceive man, but God knows the mind. Many profess they know God, but in their works they deny him everyday. Paul said in (Titus 1:16) They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him; being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Yea, most people are talking about how they know God with their lips, but by they works they are doing something totally different. The Lord God commanded people to remember the Sabbath day (which is the seventh day of the week) to keep it holy and they deny him to his face by saying “I go to church on Sunday (the first day of the week) because Paul broke bread on Sunday”. There's no other day to go to church on, but what's written in the Bible. So people have been taught to do the things thats not written in the Bible and to use the Bible to justify it.

A man asked Jesus this very question, "...What good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?", and Jesus replied, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19:16-19). You can't post verses over Jesus words, you run to Paul writing over Jesus.

1) We are regenerated and renewed "not by works of righteousness which we have done" (Titus 3:4-7, esp. v.5);

and,

2) The sabbath day law was a type of what Jesus spoke of in Matthew 11:28-30. It was merely a shadow of the real substance; which is Christ (Colossians 2:16-17).