Jesus Came To Fulfill Not To Destroy

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No it is not. There is a world of difference between (1) the Lord's Day -- the first day of the week and (2) the Day of the LORD -- the Great Tribulation followed by the Second Coming of Christ. The very fact that John said that he was "in the Spirit" on the Lord's Day and met with Christ personally should have informed you that this has nothing to do with the day of the LORD. So kindly get acquainted with the day of the LORD.
lord's day is not in use anywhere. English versions have the lord's day in use in revelations but is better understood as the Day of the Lord.
 

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And of course, that is speaking of those who seek to be justified by the law.

For those who know that they are justified through faith in the blood of Christ, the following is true.

Jas 1:25, But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Stick with the NT!

Galatians 5:3 (NKJV)
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
 

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Stick with the NT!

Galatians 5:3 (NKJV)
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
James 1:25 is in the NT.

Those who were circumcised as children are not debtors to keep the whole law if they have placed their faith in Christ. For Christians are not under the law (Romans 6:14) are dead to the law (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and are delivered from the law (Romans 7:6) as concerning condemnation.

Paul is clear in 1 Corinthians 7:18-19, Galatians 5:6, and Galatians 6:15 that uncircumcision does not avail anything; and that means that if a man is circumcised he does not need to be uncircumcised in order to find favour with God.

So, he is fine to place his faith and trust in Christ as a circumcised individual and he will not be required to obey the whole law.

Otherwise you will have to preach a different gospel to Jews than Gentiles (that Jews are required to keep the whole law) and if you are preaching to a mixed audience you cannot preach the gospel to the Jews in the audience because in preaching it to the Gentiles present you would be placing yourself under a curse (Galatians 1:6-9).
 

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lord's day is not in use anywhere. English versions have the lord's day in use in revelations but is better understood as the Day of the Lord.
Kindly read this carefully:
JOHN GILL'S COMMENTARY ON REVELATION 1:10
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,


I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day,.... Not on the Jewish sabbath, which was now abolished, nor was that ever called the Lord's day, and had John meant that, he would have said on the sabbath day; much less the Jewish passover, but the first day of the week is designed; so the Ethiopic version renders it "on the first day"; and is so called just as the ordinance of the supper is called the Lord's supper, being instituted by the Lord, and the Lord's table, 1 Corinthians 10:21, and that because it was the day in which our Lord rose from the dead, Mark 16:9; and in which he appeared at different times to his disciples, John 20:19, and which the primitive churches set apart for his worship and service, and on which they met together to hear the word, and attend on ordinances, Acts 20:7;

and Justin Martyr (z) tells us, who lived within about fifty years after this time, that on the day called , "Sunday", (by the Greeks,) the Christians met together in one place, and read the Scriptures, and prayed together, and administered the ordinance of the supper; and this, he adds, was the first day in which God created the World, and our Saviour Jesus Christ rose from the dead;

yea, Barnabas (a), the companion of the Apostle Paul, calls this day the eighth day, in distinction from the seventh day sabbath of the Jews, and which he says is the beginning of another world; and therefore we keep the eighth day, adds he, joyfully, in which Jesus rose from the dead, and being manifested, ascended unto heaven: and this day was known by the ancients by the name of "the Lord's day"; as by Ignatius (b), Irenaeus (c), Tertullian (d), Origen (e), and others; for it must be some day that was known by this name, otherwise it is mentioned to no purpose, because it would not be distinctive from others; for which reason it cannot merely design the day in which John saw this vision, because the Lord appeared on it to him, for this would not distinguish it from any other day.

Some have conjectured that this was not the weekly Lord's day observed by the Christians, but the anniversary of Christ's resurrection; and so the Ethiopians still call Easter "Schambatah Crostos", the sabbath of Christ: to understand it of the former is best.

Now, though John was driven from the house and worship of God, and could not join with the saints in the public worship of that day; yet he was employed in spiritual contemplations and exercises, and was under a more than ordinary influence of the Spirit of God; and his spirit or soul was wholly intent upon, and taken up with divine and spiritual things, with visions and representations that were made unto his mind, which he perceived in his spirit, and not with the organs of his body; he was in an ecstasy of spirit, and knew not scarcely whether he was in the body or out of it:
 

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James 1:25 is in the NT.

Those who were circumcised as children are not debtors to keep the whole law if they have placed their faith in Christ. For Christians are not under the law (Romans 6:14) are dead to the law (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and are delivered from the law (Romans 7:6) as concerning condemnation.

Paul is clear in 1 Corinthians 7:18-19, Galatians 5:6, and Galatians 6:15 that uncircumcision does not avail anything; and that means that if a man is circumcised he does not need to be uncircumcised in order to find favour with God.

So, he is fine to place his faith and trust in Christ as a circumcised individual and he will not be required to obey the whole law.

Otherwise you will have to preach a different gospel to Jews than Gentiles (that Jews are required to keep the whole law) and if you are preaching to a mixed audience you cannot preach the gospel to the Jews in the audience because in preaching it to the Gentiles present you would be placing yourself under a curse (Galatians 1:6-9).
You're either under the Law or you're not. Don't you know? Better find out before Judgment Day!
Galatians 5:3-4 (NKJV)
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
 
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A few versions have it right.


I came to be, in the Spirit, on the Day of the Lord; and I heard behind me a loud voice, like a trumpet, ---CBJ

I came to be in the Spirit on the Day of the Lord, when I heard a loud voice behind me like a trumpet, ---ISV

I was in the Ruach on the Day of the Lord, and I heard behind me a loud voice like that of a trumpet, ---TLV

I was in the Spirit in the day of the Lord and heard behind me a great voice as of a trumpet, ---JUB

I suggest you find yourself a greek scholar
 

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You're either under the Law or you're not. Don't you know? Better find out before Judgment Day!
Galatians 5:3-4 (NKJV)
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
I know that I am not justified through my keeping of the law.

I obey Jesus because I love Him (John 14:15, John 14:23, John 15:10) because He has already saved me (1 John 4:19).

And Jesus is the God of the Old and New Testaments.
 

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I know that I am not justified through my keeping of the law.

I obey Jesus because I love Him (John 14:15, John 14:23, John 15:10) because He has already saved me (1 John 4:19).

And Jesus is the God of the Old and New Testaments.
How evasive! Are you under the Law? Don't you know? I don't think you even know!
 

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How evasive! Are you under the Law? Don't you know? I don't think you even know!
Was not Paul under the law to Christ (1 Corinthians 9:21) as concerning obedience?

Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:4, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 13:8-10; Romans 5:5; 1 John 2:3-6.

However, the teaching of holy scripture is that we are not under the law (Romans 6:14) are dead to the law (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and are delivered from the law (Romans 7:6) as concerning condemnation.

Ephesians 2:15-16, Colossians 2:14, Hebrews 7:18-19, Galatians 3:25, Galatians 5:18.
 

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Was not Paul under the law to Christ (1 Corinthians 9:21) as concerning obedience?

Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:4, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 13:8-10; Romans 5:5; 1 John 2:3-6.

However, the teaching of holy scripture is that we are not under the law (Romans 6:14) are dead to the law (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and are delivered from the law (Romans 7:6) as concerning condemnation.

Ephesians 2:15-16, Colossians 2:14, Hebrews 7:18-19, Galatians 3:25, Galatians 5:18.
How EVASIVE!!! Are you under the Law of Moses? I don't think you know.
 

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Yes (as concerning obedience).
You obey the Law of Moses? I don't think you have enough body bags. You execute those who work on weekends? I don't think you even know what's in the Law of Moses.

Exodus 31:15 (NKJV)

15 Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
 

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You obey the Law of Moses? I don't think you have enough body bags. You execute those who work on weekends? I don't think you even know what's in the Law of Moses.

Exodus 31:15 (NKJV)
15 Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Inasmuch as I walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law (of Moses) is fulfilled in me (Romans 8:4).

This is according to the spirit of the law rather than the letter (Romans 7:6).
 

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Inasmuch as I walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law (of Moses) is fulfilled in me (Romans 8:4).

This is according to the spirit of the law rather than the letter (Romans 7:6).
You don't even know what's in the Law of Moses. You certainly don't obey Moses.
 

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You don't even know what's in the Law of Moses. You certainly don't obey Moses.
The righteousness of the law is fulfilled in me inasmuch as I walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Romans 8:4, Galatians 5:22-23).
 

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Please stop preaching the Law of Moses. You avoid it like plague!
My preaching is that we are not any longer bound by the letter but have been set free to be obedient to the spirit of what is written (Romans 7:6).
 

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My preaching is that we are not any longer bound by the letter but have been set free to be obedient to the spirit of what is written (Romans 7:6).
Are you under the Law of Moses? You don't seem to have a clue.
 

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Are you under the Law of Moses? You don't seem to have a clue.
I have already told you the answer to this question.

Jhn 9:27, He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be his disciples?
 

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Please stop preaching the Law of Moses. You avoid it like plague!
I will not stop preaching the law because it is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ (Galatians 3:24, Romans 3:20, Psalms 19:7 (kjv)) and because I want people to come to Christ.

Therefore I believe it is an elementary tactic to introduce people to the schoolmaster who can lead them into His arms.