Galatians 3:10 vs. Psalm 119:1

It has to be as concerning condemnation that we are not under the law, are dead to the law, and are delivered from the law;

Since, as concerning obedience, we are under the law to Christ (1 Corinthians 9:21);

In that the law is written on the hearts and minds of New Covenant believers (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:4, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 13:8-10; Romans 5:5; 1 John 2:3-6).

By the law is the knowledge of sin (Romans 3:20); and I would say that we sin any time that we violate the love of God.

Therefore the law is the specifics of the love of God for those who have the love of the Lord dwelling within them.

If I love my neighbor as myself, I am not going to:

commit adultery with his wife,

kill him,

steal from him,

bear false witness against him,

covet his belongings,

or,

violate any other command in holy scripture that pertains to my neighbor.

If I do any of those things to my neighbor, I am violating love and I am violating the law of the Lord.

These things ought to be basic to our understanding as Christians.

The concept that something cannot be both cursed and blessed at the same time is a false premise.

Curses and blesses are not mutually exclusive. We are both cursed and blessed in Christ. There is no contradiction in that.

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:" - 1 Ephesians 3 KJV

"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:" - Gal 3:13 KJV

no he actually isn’t he’s explaining this about the law

“If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:8-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the. He explains because of that act and live as though your going to be judged according to the law of mercy

“So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.”
‭‭James‬ ‭2:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

he’s actually presenting you with a perfect explaination of why the law of Moses doesn’t work for us but the law of liberty can save sinners .

once you transgress just one point of any of Moses law you now are a transgressor the same as someone who sinned a bundled times worded both you and they have broken the entirety of the law d. I try are now condemned by the law .

by Jesus law of mercy it allows a sinner to repent me be merciful to others so they now have that judgement the same measure we judge others by will be the same measure of judgement applied to us

freedom doesn’t come from Moses law it’s bondage

“Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭4:21-26‬ ‭


If we live as if we’re judged by Moses law every one of us is doomed because we have all sinned and must die now . If we live as if we’re going to be judged by mercy according to mercy we have freedom from the condemnation of the law

no matter how you define Moses law it’s everything Moses said the blessing and cursing written that’s how God defines Moses law . And that’s what isn’t sinking in

“For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:10‬ ‭KJV‬

you seem to read scripture and then explain what it says away but look above there the curse is if you don’t continue on in everything written in Moses law . If you sin once your cursed because you didn’t continue on in all that’s written

that part isn’t sinking in with you Moses law is everything good and bad he said we can’t change what he wrote if we are trying to obey it we have to obey it all or else it’s a curse hate really plain there

he explains they are cursed and tells us why and how

“Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.”

If someone doesn’t do that and keep everything Moses wrote to a tee then They are a transgressor and condemned by the law itself in what’s written

this is a repeated point by Paul

“And afterward he read all the words of the law, the blessings and cursings, according to all that is written in the book of the law. There was not a word of all that Moses commanded, which Joshua read not before all the congregation of Israel, with the women, and the little ones, and the strangers that were conversant among them.”
‭‭Joshua‬ ‭8:34-35‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Simply brother you have some good knowledge but this subject is baffling you the law of Moses is the Old Testament law for the first creation which is doomed the gospel is the eternal law of God made for the new creation ahead

about half way through scripture God starts explaining this

“Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old.

Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭43:18-19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this includes us

“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and also a New Testament seperate from Moses word

“Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭31:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and even a new promised land


“I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:2, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the old ways are done , the old earth is done , the old covenant is done , the old people are done , the old promised land is done we have been offered anew thing a new way to approach God d live forever

no your adding That per brother it would say “ you are dead to the condemnation of the law but still under it” if that’s the case it says you aren’t under the law period . It doesn’t say your beholden to obey the law but not condemned by it that’s your reasoning creating all those dots and connecting them

it just says your dead to the law , the law of not of faith , whoever is of the works of the law are under the curse , ll the law says it says to make the world guilty , no one can be justified by the law , it says those thkngs it doesn’t say “ just the condemnation of the law your not under “ that’s you saying that part

the law itself everything Moses commanded Israel’s flesh children does t apply to Christians at all in any way but everything Jesus taught in the gospel applies . Going forward after his resurrection

when you can read acts 15 and accept the apostles decision about Moses law you’ll be. Enter equipped to understand The two covenants

they decided right off when they all gathered about this question that Moses law doesn’t ply to the gentile church and shouldn’t be applied by anyone because it subverts the soul back towards the sinful creation that’s meant to die in Christ

Christians want the doctrine of Gods son the doctrine of the children of God that’s the right doctrine

“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:”
‭‭2 John‬ ‭1:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

have you ever wondered why Jesus taught opposite things from
Moses and tried to reconcile that fact ?

and maybe reason that God was saying through the Old Testament “ I’m going to do a new thing , I’m telling you now before it happens so you will believe “

Those who are forgiven do not become disobedient (Titus 3:3); and therefore our freedom from the law is not as concerning obedience but as concerning condemnation; as you have said here.

Does this apply to believers?

If a believer desires to be obedient to the commandments of Jesus (John 14:15, John 15:10), and also believes that the commandments of Jesus are found in the law (Matthew 5:17-20),

Does he forfeit the forgiveness that Christ has given him for that he desires to be obedient?

Must one become disobedient in order to retain the forgiveness that Christ offers?

I agree that the person who seeks to be justified through law-keeping, works, or personal merits, is under a curse; and is required to obey everything in the law from conception into eternity if he is going to be justified in such a manner.

Bu what of the one who is justified through faith in the blood of Jesus Christ?

Will he forfeit his salvation through his obedience to the moral tenets of the law?

Consider Romans 13:8-10. Is it not love for us to obey the commandments (see also 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6)?

Do we forfeit our salvation when we love one another as Christ has loved us?

For love is the fulfilling of the law.

If I love my neighbor as myself, I will not:

commit adultery with his wife,

kill him,

steal from him,

bear false witness against him,

covet his belongings,

or,

violate any other commandments that concerns my neighbor.

Is it truly a curse on the one who is not seeking to be justified by it?

Most assuredly I say unto you, it is a blessing on the one who knows that he is justified through faith in the blood of Jesus Christ (James 1:25)!

Galatians 3:12 speaks of those who are attempting to be justified by the law;

And Romans 10:5 speaks of the fact that the blood of Jesus is our righteousness if we are righteous at all;

But that the law is our wisdom in order that we might be blessed in what we do (James 1:25).

The New Covenant is not separate from Moses' word (see context of Jeremiah 32:31-32 in Jeremiah 31:33; or, as it is quoted in Hebrews 8:8-10). Here, the law is written on the hearts and minds of those who are in the New Covenant.

1) the doctrine of Christ includes within it the concept that if we obey and teach the least of the commandments in the OT, that we will be called great in the kingdom (Matthew 5:17-20).

2) No we are not beholden to obey the law. Because we are not under the law, are dead to the law, and are delivered from the law. as concerning condemnation, we are not beholden to obey the law.

3) We will obey the moral tenets of the law because the love of the Lord has been shed abroad in our hearts (Romans 5:5) and this love, being not impractical (1 John 3:17-18) is the fulfilling of the righteousness of the law within us (Romans 13:8-10, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6; Romans 8:4).

If I love my neighbor as myself, I will not:

commit adultery with his wife,

kill him,

steal from him,

bear false witness against him,

covet his belongings,

or,

break any other commandment that pertains to my neighbor.

Thus I effectively obey the ten commandments when I love my neighbor as myself.

This is Christianity 101.

You had better start stoning all the adulterers in your church then.

No, just your unbiblical misunderstanding thereof.

The law, as it applies according to Matthew 5:17-20, is not referring to the penalties that are mandated for violations of it.

It consists of the moral tenets that would require those penalties if we were still under the civil law that was given to the nation of Israel.

Can you see the difference here?

One thing has to do with the government's treatment of sinners.

The other has to do with how to walk in righteousness (to not be a sinner).

btw, I greatly doubt whether there are any adulterers in my church.

@Dino246,

If there was anything unbiblical about what I posted above, then post the scripture that contradicts my point of view.

I have given scripture to substantiate my point of view.

What is it about the scripture that I have posted that you disagree with?

Do you believe that you can love your neighbor as yourself and yet do the things that I mentioned above?

With that kind of love, who needs hatred?

Wrong. The Law is one unit, with many component statutes. You break one commandment, you have broken the Law. You fail to carry out the commandment, and you have broken the Law. Jesus didn't even remotely hint that the statutes He mentioned were the only applicable statutes.


You may be correct... and you may be naive. Either way, you are dodging the issue.

When you learn how to interpret and apply context, you will understand why I disagreed with your post and called your position unbiblical.

Explain how I have taken the scripture out of context.

Put up or shut up.

There is a moral law, a ceremonial law, and a civil law that was given by Moses.

The law that Jesus was referring to in Matthew 5:17-20 was the moral law.

Otherwise, you are the one who is saying that we ought to stone all the adulterers in the church; because it is your contention that Jesus is also speaking of the civil law in Matthew 5:17-20.

I am not saying that; because my contention is that Matthew 5:17-20 is speaking of the moral law.

And I was not dodging the issue; for I had already addressed the issue; and mentioned what I mentioned in passing.

Please quote the Scripture that clearly identifies and distinguishes them.

To whom was Jesus speaking? Christians? No. To Jews, who were still under the Law.

I don't need to...for it is a basic teaching in the body of Christ; agreed to by most commentators.

Matthew 5-7 is written to Christians.

Heb 1:1, God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

It's sad that so many commentators hold to an idea that has no basis in Scripture.

Correct; Matthew 5-7 is indeed written to Christians, for Matthew intended his gospel to be a record of Jesus' life and ministry for the teaching and edification of Christians.

However, Jesus' words as recorded in Matthew 5-7 were not spoken to Christians, but to Jews. Matthew merely recorded them.