HOLIDAY FAMILY FUED

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Roughsoul1991

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Name something that may keep your family from gathering during the holidays.

A. Unequally yoked
B. Bad weather
C. The Tribulation
D. Inflation
E. Covid-19




All fun and games aside, I have to answer Covid-19, specifically vaccines.

A majority of vaccinated Americans do not want unvaccinated relatives attending their holiday parties, and almost half have cut off family members over their vaccination status, according to a new poll.

According to a survey of 2,000 Americans conducted by OnePoll this month, 63% of those vaccinated against Covid-19 “don’t feel comfortable” allowing their unvaccinated relatives to attend their holiday parties, while 58% have completely broken contact with family members who refuse the jab.

This year I wanted to spend Thanksgiving with family I have not seen in years, including my 97 year old grandmother, but due to our vaccine status as mostly unvaccinated except me, they are not wanting us to see my grandmother despite her offering her home for us to stay.

All of them have been vaccinated but yet according to research,

The researchers, who detailed their findings in a paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, found that while the jab moderates symptoms of infection, it also allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into pre-symptomatic superspreaders.

So basically just as or more contagious than the unvaccinated.

Here are your only options if you fear Covid.

1. Get vaccinated (lesser severity of symptoms)

2. Shelter in place until you die.

3. Wear a respirator with filters for viruses (cloth masks do almost nothing, and the N95 in a lab setting only gives between 40% to 60% protection).

That is your only option because vaccinating people will not stop the spread of the virus.

So let us not discriminate between family members.
 

Aaron56

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We are learning that discerning the Lord’s will includes even our family gatherings and traditions.
 

Dino246

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That’s an easy question: I have other plans. 😎
 

SomeDisciple

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A majority of vaccinated Americans do not want unvaccinated relatives attending their holiday parties, and almost half have cut off family members over their vaccination status, according to a new poll.
Sounds made up.
According to a survey of 2,000 Americans conducted by OnePoll this month, 63% of those vaccinated against Covid-19 “don’t feel comfortable” allowing their unvaccinated relatives to attend their holiday parties, while 58% have completely broken contact with family members who refuse the jab.
People who don't like the vaccine, probably also don't like surveys about the vaccine either.
This year I wanted to spend Thanksgiving with family I have not seen in years, including my 97 year old grandmother, but due to our vaccine status as mostly unvaccinated except me, they are not wanting us to see my grandmother despite her offering her home for us to stay.
Okay, so if I had a relative that was 97 years old, I'd take every precaution- get tested, wear a biohazard suit, whatever was necessary to keep them safe. 97 years is a blessing from God- she must have done something right. You guys should get her some Darth Vader equipment or something so she can have visitors safely. Or at least that's what I would try doing, because I'm part nerd. I do hope that you'll get to see her though.
All of them have been vaccinated but yet according to research,

The researchers, who detailed their findings in a paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, found that while the jab moderates symptoms of infection, it also allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into pre-symptomatic superspreaders.
I don't doubt this at all. Of course, you won't hear it from the MSM, because they are just regurgitating the "get vaccinated" narrative instead of taking a nuanced and surgical approach, they are preaching the one size fits all solution. I personally think it's disgraceful.
So let us not discriminate between family members.
wellllllllll, Idk. When it comes to the vulnerable population (i'm talking people with AIDS, or OLDNESS) I feel like it's reasonable to take precautions around them/ for them to take precautions for themselves. I'm a middle aged guy with a family history on my father's side of INVULNERABILITY! Not really, but my family has a history of resilience against disease. I've had COVID, and spit in it's face, but not everyone can do that. We need to discriminate, but not against vaccinated, or unvaccinated, but based on vulnerability to the disease.

At the end of the day, everybody should just look at the information available to them- read the published information, and get council form healthcare providers- talk about it with family- and PRAY- then make a decision and trust in the Lord after you have done your due diligence.

3. Wear a respirator with filters for viruses (cloth masks do almost nothing, and the N95 in a lab setting only gives between 40% to 60% protection).
Yeah, I personally think the masks are just for show. I think we would have been better off not wasting our money on crappy surgical masks, and just getting more effective apparatus for the vulnerable population. My personal theory is that 3M just lost a crapload of money because veterans sued them for giving us defective hearing protection, and the government helped them recoup the money through the pandemic. I could be wrong. Bet I'm not though.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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Elderly people and anyone with serious health conditions should be very careful about COVID. Personally I don't think it is safe for them to be in a large gathering (with either vaccinated or unvaccinated people).

The vaccinated and unvaccinated carry about the same viral load. However, the vaccinated are less likely to get infected in the first place. So that does help with reducing transmission overall. This is evident in the hospitalization rate where the majority are unvaccinated.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc...ore-likely-to-be-hospitalized-with-covid.html
 

SomeDisciple

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Elderly people and anyone with serious health conditions should be very careful about COVID. Personally I don't think it is safe for them to be in a large gathering (with either vaccinated or unvaccinated people).
It's got to be very hard on them though. From my perspective if I was this old fossil, I would take the risk of being with family and if I go to be with the Lord, then I go. But as me as I am now- I wouldn't want to put them at risk.

I just checked the price on SCBA's (stupid expensive firefighting gear) - there are some available for as low as 1600 bucks. I'd shell out the money if both of my grandfathers hadn't already worked themselves into the grave. I might shell out the money for my father if he ever showed a sign of physical weakness (he probably won't until the second the Lord takes him). But if families would split the price for their most vulnerable family members it wouldn't be too difficult to manage, I don't think. Sure, it would feel ridiculous, but it might be worth it to be able to safely spend time with them.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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It's got to be very hard on them though. From my perspective if I was this old fossil, I would take the risk of being with family and if I go to be with the Lord, then I go. But as me as I am now- I wouldn't want to put them at risk.

I just checked the price on SCBA's (stupid expensive firefighting gear) - there are some available for as low as 1600 bucks. I'd shell out the money if both of my grandfathers hadn't already worked themselves into the grave. I might shell out the money for my father if he ever showed a sign of physical weakness (he probably won't until the second the Lord takes him). But if families would split the price for their most vulnerable family members it wouldn't be too difficult to manage, I don't think. Sure, it would feel ridiculous, but it might be worth it to be able to safely spend time with them.
Yes, it will be difficult. To be safe, it is probably best to take a PCR test if you think the person is at risk. A lot of cities offer free COVID testing at certain locations. It's not the same, but nowadays the person who has COVID can still join in through ZOOM, etc.
 

SomeDisciple

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the person who has COVID can still join in through ZOOM, etc.
Yeah, that would probably feel a little more natural. Some people don't like it- I have a certain family member that any kind of virtual contact just makes them depressed, but I'm sure it works for a lot of people.