Kyle Rittenhouse Trial

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Aaron56

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Nope...
Not even anywhere near the truth of the situation. That's a political agenda statement and not what the truth is.

There was no precedent set whatsoever. It didn't come anywhere near setting one.

You had a 17 year old kid trying to do something good and kind and our whole MSM and political system came after him for doing it...

Thats the real precedent... never before has the system tried so hard to villify someone trying to do good. And I find it revolting.
That's not the debate either, another straw man. Of course it was evil for so many to want Kyle vilified. The world is evil, we are to expect this.
 

mailmandan

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Whitlock: Rittenhouse Trial Was ‘a Calculated Strategy to Disarm America’

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...-was-a-calculated-strategy-to-disarm-america/

“This is a calculated strategy to disarm America, to go after the guns, and to eventually rewrite the Constitution,” Whitlock continued. “They’re trying to define America as a failure, and its number one failure is along the lines of race. And if they can convince enough of the American public that this country is irredeemably racist, they now have a justification to rewrite the Constitution, start this thing all over and make us more like China. That’s the end game.” We need to recognize they’re lying to us intentionally with a defined goal of rewriting the Constitution and taking guns away and sovereignty away from the American people.
 

JohnDB

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Whitlock: Rittenhouse Trial Was ‘a Calculated Strategy to Disarm America’

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...-was-a-calculated-strategy-to-disarm-america/

“This is a calculated strategy to disarm America, to go after the guns, and to eventually rewrite the Constitution,” Whitlock continued. “They’re trying to define America as a failure, and its number one failure is along the lines of race. And if they can convince enough of the American public that this country is irredeemably racist, they now have a justification to rewrite the Constitution, start this thing all over and make us more like China. That’s the end game.” We need to recognize they’re lying to us intentionally with a defined goal of rewriting the Constitution and taking guns away and sovereignty away from the American people.
There will never be a "Red Dawn" type scenario for America. There never will be an invading army looking to take over farmlands and ports. And that's because of the proliferation of firearms and ammunition across the entire nation. They just thought Afghanistan, Korea, and Vietnam were logistical nightmares with guerilla warfare...they know the USA will be 10X worse. Everyone who owns firearms usually owns an average of at least 3...more than enough handguns and then there's all the hunting rifles that are great for snipers. They will never clean it up for pacification.

And then we come to the UK...guns have been pretty much banned for decades there. But with all the shoreline they have, guns have been re-appearing for a while now...very prolifically.
 

ZNP

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There will never be a "Red Dawn" type scenario for America. There never will be an invading army looking to take over farmlands and ports. And that's because of the proliferation of firearms and ammunition across the entire nation. They just thought Afghanistan, Korea, and Vietnam were logistical nightmares with guerilla warfare...they know the USA will be 10X worse. Everyone who owns firearms usually owns an average of at least 3...more than enough handguns and then there's all the hunting rifles that are great for snipers. They will never clean it up for pacification.

And then we come to the UK...guns have been pretty much banned for decades there. But with all the shoreline they have, guns have been re-appearing for a while now...very prolifically.
Never say never
 

1ofthem

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Someone said Twitter was against the verdict! That person must hang out with the wrong people. I've read a number of threads today of people do glad Kyle was innocent.

Here's a link to a positive thread!

I don't think he should have even been on trial...But it appears one thing the trial did was wake up many Americans and possibly other parts of the world to the complete lies, propaganda strategies, and utter divisiveness of MSM.

Having video footage of the event made it harder for MSM to convince the public of their blatant lies. Yet they still tried to severe up the same lies, race-baiting, false information, and twisted propaganda on MSNBC and CNN with the world watching. I think they have pretty much lost most if not all credibility now.
 

ZNP

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I don't think he should have even been on trial...But it appears one thing the trial did was wake up many Americans and possibly other parts of the world to the complete lies, propaganda strategies, and utter divisiveness of MSM.

Having video footage of the event made it harder for MSM to convince the public of their blatant lies. Yet they still tried to severe up the same lies, race-baiting, false information, and twisted propaganda on MSNBC and CNN with the world watching. I think they have pretty much lost most if not all credibility now.
i think the process of waking up is like an iceberg melting. You have the water surrounding the iceberg which is everyone who is already awake, this has completely confirmed how messed up the situation is right now for those people. Then you have the iceberg which will appear to still be frozen solid, but the edge of that iceberg are all those who are starting to wake up and that process of melting is accelerating.

In other words this process is one way. MSNBC and CNN are losing credibility without gaining any credibility anywhere. In fact this event had a huge impact on their credibility worldwide as Brazil and the UK both had to retract stories from major news media that learned that MSNBC and CNN are liars.
 
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Justin Blake (who speaks in below video) is the uncle of Jacob Blake who was shot by police, the incident that set off the Kenosha riot that Kyle Rittenhouse was involved in.
Anthony Huber (one of the deceased from the Rittenhouse shooting) was a friend of Jacob Blake.

I'm listening to this video.
"We're going to put an economic hurting on this city, we're going to put economic hurting for those dealing with the militia, we have an agenda, we have a platform, and we're gonna run it right at them. They've never seen anything like what we're going to do to them."

They are planning on marching Sunday 11/21 (today) @ 2pm.

I have my thoughts/opinions about what I'm hearing (sounds like a lot of threats to me, this uncle and a bishop have also made comments about Biden making and breaking promises when he came to see them last year, and how there is nowhere Biden/Harris can go that they won't come after them)

Anyone have thoughts on the video comments?

 
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Justin Blake (who speaks in below video) is the uncle of Jacob Blake who was shot by police, the incident that set off the Kenosha riot that Kyle Rittenhouse was involved in.
Anthony Huber (one of the deceased from the Rittenhouse shooting) was a friend of Jacob Blake.

I'm listening to this video.
"We're going to put an economic hurting on this city, we're going to put economic hurting for those dealing with the militia, we have an agenda, we have a platform, and we're gonna run it right at them. They've never seen anything like what we're going to do to them."

They are planning on marching Sunday 11/21 (today) @ 2pm.

I have my thoughts/opinions about what I'm hearing (sounds like a lot of threats to me, this uncle and a bishop have also made comments about Biden making and breaking promises when he came to see them last year, and how there is nowhere Biden/Harris can go that they won't come after them)

Anyone have thoughts on the video comments?

Well, Jacob Blake was criminal that managed to get himself shot by the police. He's lucky to be alive. Threatening mob rule to try and pressure jurors can never be allowed. I think the judge could have done more to stop that. Not that he didn't do a great job.

As to "putting a hurting" on a city that is already hurting and still trying to recover from the last riots, what are these morons trying to prove? The city needs to toss them out. All they are doing is hurting low income families. It's beyond stupid, but stupid seems to run in this family. smh
 

Magenta

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I don't think he should have even been on trial...
The justice system is presumably set up to determine the guilt or innocence of anyone
charged with committing a crime. Kyle was found innocent of murder, as he should have
been. The justice system worked! But saying he should not even have been tried? That
goes too far. However, I agree that the prosecution was less than honorable in the
execution of their duty, crossing ethical and legal lines. The word "scuzzy" comes to mind.
 

1ofthem

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The justice system is presumably set up to determine the guilt or innocence of anyone
charged with committing a crime. Kyle was found innocent of murder, as he should have
been. The justice system worked! But saying he should not even have been tried? That
goes too far. However, I agree that the prosecution was less than honorable in the
execution of their duty, crossing ethical and legal lines. The word "scuzzy" comes to mind.
Judging by your reply, I'm not sure if you are familiar with the US justice system. Kyle should have never been charged or tried with intentional homicide, or intentional attempted homicide.

The prosecution has an option of whether they take up cases or not. The prosecution are the ones who came up with those trumped up charges against Kyle knowing that it was self-defense.

He was charged with First degree intentional homicide, First degree intentional attempted homicide....etc. These were all fake charges from the get-go. They had the video evidence showing that it was self-defense from the onset.

So I'll say it again...He should have never been put through a trial. This was just a political stunt on the part of the Prosecution. And I agree with your surmise on how they handled the trial. They should have to face an ethics committee at the very least.
 

shittim

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You think maybe the prosecution knew as well and attempted to throw a wrench in the gears with the tapes and such?
 

1ofthem

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Yeah, but don't take my word for it though...Here's what Chris Christie had to say about it well after I made my first post about it.

https://nypost.com/2021/11/21/chris-christie-kyle-rittenhouse-never-should-have-been-charged/

Christie, a former prosecutor, argued that it was clear that the evidence didn’t warrant the charges against Rittenhouse, 18, for fatally shooting two men and injuring a third during riots in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

“Those charges should never have been brought. And, you know, prosecutors are not supposed to give in to the whims of the public,” Christie said on “Fox News Sunday.”

“They’re not supposed to give in — give in to public opinion. You’re supposed to dispassionately look at the facts and the evidence and decide whether they support charges.”

Christie added that it was apparent from footage of the fatal evening that the shootings were an “act of self-defense.”
 

Magenta

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Judging by your reply, I'm not sure if you are familiar with the US justice system. Kyle should have never been charged or tried with intentional homicide, or intentional attempted homicide.

The prosecution has an option of whether they take up cases or not. The prosecution are the ones who came up with those trumped up charges against Kyle knowing that it was self-defense.

He was charged with First degree intentional homicide, First degree intentional attempted homicide....etc. These were all fake charges from the get-go. They had the video evidence showing that it was self-defense from the onset.

So I'll say it again...He should have never been put through a trial. This was just a political stunt on the part of the Prosecution. And I agree with your surmise on how they handled the trial. They should have to face an ethics committee at the very least.
Thank you for clarifying all that for me :) I did not know there was such a thing as intentional homicide (unlike pre-mediated murder), nor that was what he had been charged with. Pre-meditated murder and second degree manslaughter (the unintentional killing of another) and of course self defense I am aware of as charges, and would have thought a trial would be necessary to determine if it was self defense by bringing all into the public realm for official scrutiny. Well, scuzzy applied to the prosecution still works ;) I thought the judge a bit too lenient with his criticisms of the prosecutor's shifty shenanigans.
 

1ofthem

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You think maybe the prosecution knew as well and attempted to throw a wrench in the gears with the tapes and such?
I'm not really sure what you're asking? If you asking if the prosecution was trying to help Kyle with the videos? I'd say definitely not.

They were trying to get people to disbelieve their own eyes and spin the videos into some weird propaganda. They knew their case was based on nothing but lies.

During their closing argument, they were actually testifying and trying to put their own spin on the videos. The defense should have objected the whole way through their closing argument or testimony.

Prosecutors and defense lawyers are not allowed to testify and give their own opinions or spins on the facts during trials.
 

ZNP

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Judging by your reply, I'm not sure if you are familiar with the US justice system.
:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:I thought to understand this trial we needed to be familiar with mob justice.
 

Magenta

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Oops, I did not mean to say self defense as a charge but a legitimate/legal reason for killing another...