Kyle Rittenhouse Trial

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kaylagrl

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I own a gun and many in my family are or were in the armed forces.

I'm concerned this case may set a poor precedent. How many of us want 17 year-olds driving from 20 miles away to patrol our streets with ARs?
He was at his fathers who lives in that town. I'd rather a kid of 17 than rioters, looters and murderers patrolling our streets. He did nothing wrong.
 

ZNP

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Sorry,I listened to this video!
Any prophecy I believe comes from scripture.
Too many people try to add to or take away from the word,this is as bogus as the other one you presented!
Every believer needs to understand that the Lord's word to watch for His coming is a command. If you do not watch you are disobeying the Lord's direct command, that is sin.

I have two dogs and they watch the yard. They let me know about everything that is happening to the yard. They have a bark that tells me someone is walking a dog, another that says a package is being delivered and still others for cats that have tried to sneak into the yard.

They respond to every sound at the gate. They are an example of what it means to watch.

During Jesus ministry the pharisees attacked him repeatedly over the Sabbath rest. Today the pharisees attack believers over anything to do with the Lord's coming. In one case the disciples were in the field picking grains to eat. These are tiny little nuggets. The pharisees attacked them for doing this saying they were working on the sabbath (weird because if you were at home and peeled an orange that would not be an issue).

After dealing with that the Lord heals a man with a withered hand. If you buy into this teaching from the pharisees your hands will become withered, unable to pick grains from the word of God.
 

Aaron56

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He was at his fathers who lives in that town. I'd rather a kid of 17 than rioters, looters and murderers patrolling our streets. He did nothing wrong.
That's not the discussion: choosing rioters or 17-year olds with ARs. The discussion point is the precedent it sets.

BTW: I agree with the ruling: it was plainly self-defense.
 

JohnDB

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Most teenagers have mental maturity issues with the whole "shades of grey" thing...not like the 50 shades of grey book...but that they see things in only black and white, good or evil. There's no real breakdown of understanding as to how people are both good and bad all at the same time.

Basically they are extremely idealistic in nature. Because that's what their cognitive function is limiting them to understand at the time. The more advanced cognitive stuff comes on slowly later.

So when a teenager sees something that is blatantly wrong...like a legal immigrant's (minority owned business) getting destroyed and looted because of something that happened elsewhere and the city government isn't doing enough to stop it...a teenager will rise up and get angry and do something about it.

No, Kyle didn't go to the riot to "mow everyone down"...he wanted to be a beacon of light and hope and kindness for some very angry people while helping minority businessmen save their business.

And then the thugs came along to end his life.

They used the fire as a lure to isolate him...and then attacked. They use similar tactics in prison to isolate guards and attack them as well. But jailhouse guards have training to not get isolated as well as well organized backup plans in place.

And then the weight of the justice system came against Kyle (because of political hacks) and the whole thing became a David vs Goliath story.

The main stream media and even the president were condemning him for surviving what should have been a deadly attack on his life. And because Kyle not only survived but killed some of the worst elements of our society...he found a groundswell of support against a "Grandmother beater", "Girlfriend abuser/rapist" and a pedophile and the impotent government trying to abuse a young man simply trying to do some good.

And now we are asking for his assistance once again by seeking vengeance against those who abused him. The media who lied, the president who maligned, and others who rushed to condemn him because of politics.
 

ZNP

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That's not the discussion: choosing rioters or 17-year olds with ARs. The discussion point is the precedent it sets.

BTW: I agree with the ruling: it was plainly self-defense.
I don't think the trial sets a precedent. Law concerning your right to self defense has been long established. If the jury had found him guilty you know there would have been an appeal and it would have ultimately gone all the way to the Supreme court. Only if the Supreme court had ruled him guilty would you consider it a "precedent".

An AR is not the weapon of choice for a criminal. The fact that he was openly carrying a rifle should have been seen as a warning just like someone putting a warning up concerning a dog. Those people who attacked him, threatened him, they all had been warned.
 

JohnDB

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That's not the discussion: choosing rioters or 17-year olds with ARs. The discussion point is the precedent it sets.
Nope...
Not even anywhere near the truth of the situation. That's a political agenda statement and not what the truth is.

There was no precedent set whatsoever. It didn't come anywhere near setting one.

You had a 17 year old kid trying to do something good and kind and our whole MSM and political system came after him for doing it...

Thats the real precedent... never before has the system tried so hard to villify someone trying to do good. And I find it revolting.
 

ZNP

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That's not the discussion: choosing rioters or 17-year olds with ARs. The discussion point is the precedent it sets.
The precedent set was by the city and state governments that did nothing as cities were experiencing riots and looting. Businesses destroyed, people killed, and political leaders like Kamala Harris were applauding them while Biden was lambasting those that stood up to defend themselves.

There has been a very ugly precedent set by the likes of Joy Behar, Don Lemon, CNN, MSNBC, Joe Biden, his campaign, Kamala Harris, and the Democratic party.
 

ZNP

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Beware that you are not deceived

I saw a newscaster referring to the Left and their protests and response to the verdict and it came across as though the country is evenly divided between left and right. This is deceit.

The people having trouble with the verdict are in a very distinct minority. It is likely only 1% of the country. True that is still 3.5 million people and these are often very vocal people on social media, but the country is not evenly split on this, not by a very long shot.

Not only so but MSNBC and CNN would have you believe that they speak for half the country. They don't. Again, I highly doubt any more than 10% of the country is influenced by what they say.

You have to look at ratings. Tucker Carlson pulls in about 4 viewers for every viewer the highest rated CNN or MSNBC show gets. But it is far worse than that for the "left wing media" because all of the highest rated shows are on the right. Some may listen to one of four or five channels that all outdo MSNBC and CNN. So instead of 20% I suspect it is much closer to 10% of the population that actually listens to these left wing pundits.

The reason you see so many "trolls" from the left is because they have bots that the tech giants use to fill the comments.
 

Gardenias

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I am looking for my redeemer heart,soul and spirit.
I just rest in what the Spirit speaks to me through the word.
I am not looking with fear and I'm not listening to sources outside the word......EVER be they right or wrong!

Jesus waits on the Father's command and I wait in his rest.
 

1ofthem

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That's not the discussion: choosing rioters or 17-year olds with ARs. The discussion point is the precedent it sets.

BTW: I agree with the ruling: it was plainly self-defense.
I agree. I don't think he should have been there. His mother should've never let a 17-year-old go into a situation like that.

However, the people at fault here are the Governor and all those who allowed rioters to violently take over the streets. They were the cause of the total chaos that was brought on by the rioters.

Although I know it will never happen....they should be the ones on trial.

Also if the FBI can track down all the Jan. 6 people...looks like they would be able to use social media and video evidence to track down the rioters across the US, who looted, burned down places, and violently beat others, and even murdered others.

I'm sure they could track many of them down...but that doesn't fit their agenda.
 

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Looks like the Lord found 12 righteous people in Kenosha.
Thank you Lord
 

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Magenta

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During Jesus ministry the pharisees attacked him repeatedly over the Sabbath rest. Today the pharisees attack believers over anything to do with the Lord's coming. In one case the disciples were in the field picking grains to eat. These are tiny little nuggets. The pharisees attacked them for doing this saying they were working on the sabbath (weird because if you were at home and peeled an orange that would not be an issue).
Food Preparation on Shabbat - Shabbat (chabad.org)
 

JohnDB

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I dunno about sabbath...(ok I do but it centered on work)

But today I was busy making candied orange peels for dipping in tempered chocolate... Christmas is coming. (I also made raspberry centers and orange centers for truffles as well...(after breakfast of french toast)
So all total I got 5 truffles ready. Caramel and orange peels not included in that. (Don't worry... I'll get more done and be finished in time)
 

ZNP

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I dunno about sabbath...(ok I do but it centered on work)

But today I was busy making candied orange peels for dipping in tempered chocolate... Christmas is coming. (I also made raspberry centers and orange centers for truffles as well...(after breakfast of french toast)
So all total I got 5 truffles ready. Caramel and orange peels not included in that. (Don't worry... I'll get more done and be finished in time)
There is no prohibition against eating fruit on the sabbath as long as you don't cook or select (purchase) it on that day.
 

1ofthem

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Looks like the Lord found 12 righteous people in Kenosha.
Thank you Lord
I prayed and I'm sure many others did during the trial and especially the deliberation that the Lord would soften the hearts of the jurors.

I do thank God that Kyle Rittenhouse was given a fair verdict and found not guilty.

In this day and age, it really is a miracle.
 

Magenta

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There is no prohibition against eating fruit on the sabbath as long as you don't cook or select (purchase) it on that day.
In addition to the prohibition against cooking in any form, on Shabbat we (Jews) are also prohibited from squeezing fruit, selecting, kneading, grinding and mashing. Electrical appliances may not be turned on or off on Shabbat. I would think that included peeling if you cannot even squeeze a fruit LOL. Of course I could be wrong and I do apologize for the derail. I do appreciate many of your posts and your sense of humor is fairly priceless, though I do have a bit of a concern that one of these days your tongue will become stuck in your cheek :giggle:
 

Genipher

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In addition to the prohibition against cooking in any form, on Shabbat we (Jews) are also prohibited from squeezing fruit, selecting, kneading, grinding and mashing. Electrical appliances may not be turned on or off on Shabbat. I would think that included peeling if you cannot even squeeze a fruit LOL. Of course I could be wrong and I do apologize for the derail. I do appreciate many of your posts and your sense of humor is fairly priceless, though I do have a bit of a concern that one of these days your tongue will become stuck in your cheek :giggle:
I used to watch a Jewish lady on youtube and she had their electrical on a timer so they wouldn't need to flip a switch (work) during Sabbath. Always thought that was interesting.