About prophesying

I think there has always been many people who wish for the of prophecy, but would they really want it and the immense responsibility that comes with it?

I guess that's a choice each person needs to make, but I don't think we should shirk increased responsibilities not despise prophesying. While the reality is that people do avoid anything beyond the status quo, I think God is looking for people who won't do that.

It's like the parable of the talents in Matthew 25:14-30. While in this parable the talents are a former currency of the Romans and Greeks, it's actually fitting to think of talents as the kind of talents that describe a skill. We shouldn't be lazy with what we have been given, whether that be the gift of prophesying, money, or something else.

??????????? really ? Being tormented by Demons and Devils is a gift now????

Well there we have it then. Departing from the faith is not like falling off a log. Apostacy is a real possibility, but it is a willful choice.

Prophecy doth not proceed forth from a headful of Bible knowledge. It comes from above.

We are not to walk and talk and work in fear, but in confidence and by faith.

I think I do. The fields are white and ripe and we have such a short and limited time to lay up treasure in Heaven. Time spent any other way is time wasted...

1 Corinthians
14:1 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual [gifts], but rather that ye may prophesy.
14:2 For he that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth [him]; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
14:3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men [to] edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
14:4 He that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
14:5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater [is] he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

Who said anything about being tormented?

I agree. Prophets have the ability to intercept what seducing spirits and demons say. How else do you think the doctrines of demons get distributed to the masses?

If someone doesn't know the truth from scripture they'll fall for any false doctrine. It can't be minimized how important it is to be firmly rooted in the Word.

If the prophecy come true that may from the Lord but when it wrong, it not from the Lord
Recently I listen some wrong prophecy
I remember Kenneth cooplan prophecy in the summer 2020 Covid 19 will be no more.
And it's wrong. If God who told to Kenneth, it will come true, so God not talk to him
Another pastor prophecy Donal trump will win and it was wrong. God never wrong, so if prophecy not happen, than not from God

interesting question about that:
does this count as 'confessing that Christ has come in the flesh' ?

amen

is prophecy just 'telling the future' and 'calling fire down from heaven' etc?
because while Biblical prophets did such things, the record of their lives in scripture could be read aloud in an hour or two - often even less. so what was a prophet's day-to-day like?
they're clearly not always going around proclaiming judgement and revelations of the future. they may go years between any kind of event like that. so what does it really mean to be a prophet?

as an example that needs to be scrutinized and understood to really answer that question, we need to look at this:

in contest this is immediately after Saul had begun to try to kill David. David escapes the palace, and Saul sends people after him, to recon. those messengers from Saul run into a group of people with Samuel 'prophesying' - the Spirit comes over them and they start prophesying too. Saul hears of this, sends another contingent. same thing happens to them - they forget all about their duty to the king and start prophesying by the Holy Spirit.
so Saul himself goes out after David, and lo and behold, Saul runs into these 'prophets' with Samuel ((apparently a pretty larege group by now, wow!)), and Saul starts prophesying too!

what is Saul doing? telling the future? giving people 'words of knowledge' ? calling down fire on the enmies of the LORD?
Saul is engaged in trying to do something evil, and runs into a man of God - and the Spirit comes over Saul, making him do absolutely the opposite of what he set out to do.



i just think, if we're going to have a thread about the gift of prophecy -- one of the first things we need to cover is what in the word does it mean to 'prophesy' in the first place? we need an accurate, Biblical definition of that. i think we all know there are a lot of very poor definitionsout there

We need to keep this in context. The New Testament was being written at that time, but only a fraction was available to the churches. Therefore the gift of prophecy was operational until about 100 AD. The correct meaning of prophecy is divine supernatural revelations directly from the Holy Spirit for all of God's people (2 Peter 1:19-21).

Now that we have the complete Bible and the last book is the last book of prophecy, there have been no genuine prophecies since about 100 AD. Paul already saw the cessation of prophesies, tongues, and supernatural knowledge (1 Cor 13:8). So if anyone now claims to be a prophet (as Joseph Smith claimed) he is a false prophet. And the doctrines of the LDS church display this.

All who believe Jesus Yeshua and pass on the Good news from Him have the Spirit of Prophecy, Revelation.

All should study the Word enough to know that prophecy is not just foretelling future events.

Not exactly.

I see how, at first glance, it appears Matthew 8:28-29 is a nod to 1 John 4:2, but it isn't. Remember, "even the demons believe and tremble." The key difference is that they don't acknowledge Jesus Christ as the savior of the world nor do they generally come proclaiming Jesus as the Messiah.

You got that all wrong. You don't have any verses that say the spiritual gifts have ceased and instead rely on your own commentary and rationale to justify your position.

You seem so sure that there are no such things as spiritual gifts, but I honestly think you're blinded by unbelief.

Amen. Exactly. Prophecy is any message from God and most of the time it is not about foretelling future events.

Good question. Prophesying means a a divine message from God. It doesn't need to be a prediction. It's just a message. It can range from something as simple as a single sentence to something long enough to be a short story.

My understanding from Revelation is a rotund Yes it does.

I have an open mind on @posthuman 's question. How does Matt. 8:28-29 relate to 1 John 4:2?