Does Christ look at our beliefs or our actions?

Actions have to do with law, and most posters either object to law postings, or avoid them. How do you think the Lord wants us to consider his law? There are scripture saying it is given because of sin, that it is not to be used for salvation, that Christ changed it and made it new, and the law of Moses is dead.

There is a beautiful psalm saying we are blessed by the law, a God inspired psalm, yet I have read posts saying we are cursed by the law. We are under grace, gifted with a gift of righteousness or obedience to the law through Christ. I have read posts saying we must not listen to the law because we are not under it for salvation.

Obedience has to refer to the law, for the law defines what is and isn’t obedience. There is scripture saying that if we love the Lord, we will obey him. We are even told our salvation depends on our believing in Christ, and to believe Christ we must believe in obedience for Christ was the only human who was obedient.

If Christ gave us the knowledge of our creator and how he works for us, does that include how we are to live our lives as belonging to Him and under his instructions, must we act on this or is believing it enough?

Following Christ's instructions is tough. Just not following our instincts to fight for our rights but do good for our enemies is a tough one. Judging only righteously is another tough one. I could let myself go on quite a trip of calling people fools, Christ says not to do that. Christ is tough to follow.

Both. Two sides of the same coin.

Gal 3:
Purpose of the Law
19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one.

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

Paul did not say this was one of many purposes of the law. He said it was THE purpose.

1. It was given because of our sin
2. It was only supposed to empowered until he seed (Christ) would come
3. It proves we are all sinners. as anyone who does not obey every word is cursed. (cursed is the one)
4. It keeps us under guard. as it keeps our pride in check., So we do not get so proud we think we are good enough, And this keeps our focus on God and his grace
5. It was given to Lead Israel to Christ. and in turn, lead everyone to Christ. as it exposes our sin, and our condemnation which is deserved
6. It brings people to the ability to have faith as it makes them poor in spirit. and the sacrificial law shows how redemption is made
7. As such, it is a schoolmaster or tutor which leads people to christ.
8. After Christ comes, it has fulfilled it purpose in our life. and we no longer need it.

Your worship and idolotry of the law worries my my sister.

The law exposes your sin, If you look to the law and do not see how totally unworthy and sinful you are. You are not seeing the law as it was purposed. You are in fact watering down the law.

That is what the pharisees did, and why they rejected CHrist. Because the law did not lead them as a tutor. they turned the law into something it was never intended to be. and made it something it was not.

A child of God does not need to know adultry is a sin. They already know it. As the word said, Gods law is written in our heart. The law can not help a believer. because it exposes our sin, it does not get to the root of the problem of why we sin.

If we just look to the commands, We can fool ourselves into thinking we are ok, when we are not. A person who is walking with God and is loving and serving others does not think of the law. They do not have to. They are doing what REALLY needs to be done to walk in a way worthy of their calling, they are walking IN CHRIST.

People who are to busy looking to the law are to busy trying to not sin, and this takes their focus off of others.. There will be many who will in my view find out they lost so much because instead of looking at loving and serving others. they were too focused on how good they were.

What do you think about the 119th Psalm? It disputes much of your scripture interpretation. If that psalm is not correct we would have to question all psalms, even the wonderful 23rd.

Paul tells us to keep the law as in Rom_3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. How do you reconcile these scriptures with your interpretation of scripture?

Did paul contradict himself?

Your right, we establish the law through faith. Just like I told you. Law brings us to faith. When we come to faith in Christ. We prove what the law has said. The tutor has completed its job.

As for psalms 119, How is david doing what he said? Is he focusing on the law and how good he is, or is he focusing on God and loving and serving others. And by practice not breaking commands,

Paul does not contradict himself, he contradicts your interpretation of what he says.

David is focusing on God and he is using the law properly, he is using it to guide him as he loves the Lord. He could not show love for the Lord and at the same time turn his back on the instructions God gives us for living for him.

I do not understand how it is possible to have faith in Christ and no faith at all in the instructions Christ gives for us to live by.

25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. .

If all those scriptures giving us God's law has completed their tasks, what do you think the Lord wants us to do with those scriptures?

Should we tear them out of our bibles, do you think--they are over and done with in your interpretation.

I thought that God gave the fleshly commands like fleshly circumcision as tutors to lead to making humans aware they are marked by a special marking to show they belong to God, and of no use any more because Christ gave all the holy spirit as tutor. Now you are saying the entire scripture that God gives us to guide us should be looked at as useless tutors so are these scriptures of no use any longer in your opinion?

Actions have to do with law, and most posters either object to law postings, or avoid them. How do you think the Lord wants us to consider his law? There are scripture saying it is given because of sin, that it is not to be used for salvation, that Christ changed it and made it new, and the law of Moses is dead.

There is a beautiful psalm saying we are blessed by the law, a God inspired psalm, yet I have read posts saying we are cursed by the law. We are under grace, gifted with a gift of righteousness or obedience to the law through Christ. I have read posts saying we must not listen to the law because we are not under it for salvation.

Obedience has to refer to the law, for the law defines what is and isn’t obedience. There is scripture saying that if we love the Lord, we will obey him. We are even told our salvation depends on our believing in Christ, and to believe Christ we must believe in obedience for Christ was the only human who was obedient.

If Christ gave us the knowledge of our creator and how he works for us, does that include how we are to live our lives as belonging to Him and under his instructions, must we act on this or is believing it enough?

Following Christ's instructions is tough. Just not following our instincts to fight for our rights but do good for our enemies is a tough one. Judging only righteously is another tough one. I could let myself go on quite a trip of calling people fools, Christ says not to do that. Christ is tough to follow.

Dear Blik I fully agree with what you wrote.

Christ did not come to abolish the law, it was given to us as a moral compass and if we do love God and his beloved son, we will do our very best to uphold the law. Christ clearly said the law will never be abolished! anyone who says the contrary contradicts and disobey Christ and God. I believe in God and that Jesus is the son of God and in the law.

May God bless you all.

Bless,

J.

I am talking about the law.

Not all those scriptures.


Why would you do this?

Do people still need to find c grist and come to faith?



Lol. The command says do not murder

as a believer, what good does that command do for you?

The command says do not bear false witness,

as a believer, what good is this command to you?

What is the law if it is not written in scripture?

When Christ gives commands it is telling us how to behave. We show our faith and our love for the Lord through behavior. If it only led to Christ, then it would lead to repentance. When repentance is obeyed it means that you will not to disobey the law. So how ever you cut it, it leads the law leads to repentance from disobeying the law.

Scripture tells us that no one who makes a practice of sin can be with the Lord.

Actions have to do with law, and most posters either object to law postings, or avoid them. How do you think the Lord wants us to consider his law? There are scripture saying it is given because of sin, that it is not to be used for salvation, that Christ changed it and made it new, and the law of Moses is dead.

There is a beautiful psalm saying we are blessed by the law, a God inspired psalm, yet I have read posts saying we are cursed by the law. We are under grace, gifted with a gift of righteousness or obedience to the law through Christ. I have read posts saying we must not listen to the law because we are not under it for salvation.

Obedience has to refer to the law, for the law defines what is and isn’t obedience. There is scripture saying that if we love the Lord, we will obey him. We are even told our salvation depends on our believing in Christ, and to believe Christ we must believe in obedience for Christ was the only human who was obedient.

If Christ gave us the knowledge of our creator and how he works for us, does that include how we are to live our lives as belonging to Him and under his instructions, must we act on this or is believing it enough?

Following Christ's instructions is tough. Just not following our instincts to fight for our rights but do good for our enemies is a tough one. Judging only righteously is another tough one. I could let myself go on quite a trip of calling people fools, Christ says not to do that. Christ is tough to follow.

Well then I guess we would never know we sinned, and would never come to faith in christ.



I already asked you’

the law said do not murder. How does that help you as a christian.

the law says do not bear false witness. How does that help you as a christian.

Actions have to do with law

Under the First Covenant, yes. However, under the New Covenant, actions have to do with obedience to Jesus/God,.

Christians today need to believe that God not only looks at, but records ALL our actions, thoughts, beliefs, and words.

One of the cornerstones of the Christian Faith is personal responsibility. All men are held accountable for all their actions/words. Only Grace from God can cleanse us of our sins through the precious blood of Jesus. Yet, our actions/words are STILL recorded because there will come a time when God will consider all for one reason or another. Be it damnation or reward.