Does the Bible describe our life as being a computer simulation.

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ZNP

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That is an excellent point, how does viewing the material world as a simulation impact the significance of the cross of Christ?

Does viewing the material world as a simulation make it so that you are no longer held in fear of death? Pain? Public humiliation?

We had a poster on this forum recently say that he had been "crucified" on some thread.
Just because the material world is a simulation doesn't mean that the communication, fellowship, word, and consequences aren't very real.

For example, they use these very complex flight simulations to determine whether or not to certify a pilot. So the consequences are very real.
 
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Does the Bible describe our life as being a computer simulation.
Bottom line is this:

Even if our lives are a computer simulation, if the simulation is sufficiently similar to the real thing then the differences nce between a simulation and reality are indistinguishable. That means if we were in some sort of simulation then we couldn’t prove it, either because it’s not provable, or falsifiable, or because we are not in a simulation.

And I believe we are not in a simulation
 

ZNP

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Bottom line is this:

Even if our lives are a computer simulation, if the simulation is sufficiently similar to the real thing then the differences nce between a simulation and reality are indistinguishable. That means if we were in some sort of simulation then we couldn’t prove it, either because it’s not provable, or falsifiable, or because we are not in a simulation.

And I believe we are not in a simulation
We just had PennEd post a very interesting video game talking about how it is a portal designed to cause people to be demon possessed. If this world is a simulation it would make sense that Satan and the demons would copy that. So God creates a simulation in which we can be one with God, it would make sense that the counterfeit of that would be simulation where demons could possess humans.
 

SomeDisciple

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The tabernacle, and the temple, and stuff in the law, we are told, are shadows of things in heaven. It wouldn't be shocking if everything in the material universe was a shadow of something in heaven.

"Simulation" is by definition an imitation of real-world processes... so I suppose if the material universe is an imitation of the spiritual domain, I suppose it could be considered "simulation".
 

1ofthem

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I don't understand any of this and can't see any real value or importance in it.

We walk by faith, not by sight.

God's thoughts are not our thoughts. His thoughts are much higher.

God has given us His Word (scripture) as a guide to live by.

There really is no need to try to go beyond it and reason or rationalize it.

If we spend time in His Word...Learning and applying it to our lives we would do well and much, much, better.

We need to allow the Spirit to have control by faith and quit wasting time worrying about the how's and why's.

Jesus said that whoever believes in Him shall do the same works as He did and greater works because He has gone to the Father.

Most of us (myself included) are failing. We'd do well to spend our time thinking about those issues, and applying the teachings and concepts of scripture to our lives.
 
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I don't understand any of this and can't see any real value or importance in it.

We walk by faith, not by sight.

God's thoughts are not our thoughts. His thoughts are much higher.

God has given us His Word (scripture) as a guide to live by.

There really is no need to try to go beyond it and reason or rationalize it.

If we spend time in His Word...Learning and applying it to our lives we would do well and much, much, better.

We need to allow the Spirit to have control by faith and quit wasting time worrying about the how's and why's.

Jesus said that whoever believes in Him shall do the same works as He did and greater works because He has gone to the Father.

Most of us (myself included) are failing. We'd do well to spend our time thinking about those issues, and applying the teachings and concepts of scripture to our lives.
There are different paths to chose from in this life, but, after this life is over, the way to the Father is through His perfect Son Jesus of Nazareth. People need to prepare to obey the gospel of Jesus of Nazareth now before they meet their Maker. Have faith in His sacrifice, His glorious sacrifice. His glory is written for the benefit of the people of the planet Earth.
 

Aerials1978

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Interesting OP. The more that is discovered about Astro and Quantum physics, the more the determination is given that everything is much, much more orderly. There is no randomness. Almost like, an intelligent being designed it.
 

SomeDisciple

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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship...

The scriptures are important, but the scripture even says that God is revealed in his workmanship as well. We do well to study both.
 

ZNP

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Quantum entanglement --

the phenomenon whereby a pair of particles are generated in such a way that the individual quantum states of each are indefinite until measured, and the act of measuring one determines the result of measuring the other, even when at a distance from each other.

This is very hard to explain with any classical view of creation but if we view the universe as a computer simulation then it is simple to explain, we do this all the time. We "group" components together so that we can rotate and manipulate the entire group as one entity.
 
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Some Christians try to merge Science with the Word of God to create a platform of information not found within the Creation Account. What is odd, no one caught the fact that Genesis 1:1 begins with a Title : God's Creation of the Heavens and the Earth. Then Verse 2 takes us to Earth. From this point as we continue reading the Genesis One Account, God creates Light, Sun, Moon, Expands Space, then creates what is in Space.

Science begins with the point that Earth is Younger than the Universe.
The Genesis Creation Account shows us Earth was before Space, the Sun, Moon, Stars, the Expansion of Space.

Science will never be able to assimilate anything correctly because they are beginning from the End Point, not the Beginning Point.

Science:
1. the Bang
2. expansion of Space and continuation
3. Sun per Galaxy
4. Planets per Galaxy

Genesis Creation Account:
1. Earth
2. Light
3. Sun/Moon
4. Expansion of Space
5. Stars solar systems etc

Until Science calculates in the correct Order, they will always be lost as it is evident now.