A Biblical Cosmology / God's Flat Earth

Notice that it is "habitation" singular in the following because the habitation of BOTH the Sun and the Moon is the firmament (atmosphere) over the Earth!

(Hab 3:11) "The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear."

The Genesis Creation account makes it even more apparent that the Sun and the Moon are in the same firmament where the birds fly:

Gen 1:14 "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:"

Gen 1:15 "And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so."

Gen 1:16 "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also."

Gen 1:17 "And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,"

Gen 1:18 "And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good."

Gen 1:19 "And the evening and the morning were the fourth day."

Gen 1:20 "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven."

The purpose of the Sun, Moon, and stars for telling "days and years" is reminiscent of a technology we use today for the same purpose: the analog clock. Just as the hour hand makes its revolution over the clock FACE, so the Sun runs his circuit over the FACE of the Earth. Note it is the Sun moving, not the Earth, in the Biblical cosmology:

Psa 19:1 "To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork."

Psa 19:2 "Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge."

Psa 19:3 "There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard."

Psa 19:4 "Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,"

Psa 19:5 "Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race."

Psa 19:6 "His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof."

And if it is not entirely clear that the Sun and Moon BOTH move over the Earth, consider the account here:

(Jos 10:12) "Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon."

Both the Sun and the Moon are given a location ABOVE EARTH because they are SMALL and LOCAL! You cannot do this if the Sun is 93 million miles away and dwarfs a tiny planet Earth. Unless you are going to tell me that Joshua under inspiration was an ignorant hick or that God was being poetic - and thus willingly deceptive with the narrative - the conclusion here is obvious.

The fixed stars move with a firmament layer above the Earth. It is unclear whether this is some kind of dome as portrayed by many ancient cultures with their "cosmic egg" depictions or whether it is more of a flat ceiling above, but the Bible has some interesting things to say about it:

(Job 37:18) "Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?"

This molten glassy structure is mentioned in other eschatological books of the Bible. I talk about the three heavens and how they might be arranged in my Biblical Cosmology video on YouTube.

(Rev 15:2) "And I saw as it were a SEA OF GLASS mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the SEA OF GLASS, having the harps of God." (Firmament under the throne of God but above the Earth is solid because the saints are standing on it.)

(Rev 4:6) "And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind."

The Earth is not a planet; the Bible is clear that it was specifically created to be the habitation for humanity and that humanity is limited in their boundaries:

(Isa 45:18) "For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else."

(Act 17:26) "And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;"

Many things work on both a globe model AND on a Flat Earth model. For example, compass navigation. North is movement towards the center, magnetic north. South is movement away from the center towards the Antarctic ring. East and west are simply circles counterclockwise and clockwise around the center, respectively, which eventually bring you "around the world" or back to your starting point.

There are no parallel dimensions, there are no other habitable worlds, there are no extraterrestrial mortal alien races, and there is no "outer space" unless you count the land beyond the Antarctic ice boundary. On God's Flat Earth, up is up, down is down, Hell yawns below us, and God sits high above us on His sapphire throne until He will finally subdue the heathen underfoot as a possession for the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

Since this is getting rather long... I'll leave it here for now.

As I said I don't get it, its like people claiming that vaccines do the things the disease they are meant to fight actually does....oh well.

that's a laughable dogma. you know what they say when they claim there is no gravity?
they say, no, it's buoyancy.

well what's the definition of buoyancy?

Archimedes principle:

see that 'g' there?
it's the "gravitational constant"

buoyancy is a derived expression from the force of gravity.
so their argument is equivalent to "there's no such thing as eggs, there are only omelets"

FE is a trap for ignorant people who do not investigate claims. it's prepping people to accept even bigger lies.

that's ridiculous.
your cellphone has reception and working GPS precisely because the maths are entirely possible and in fact are being calculated every second, with astounding accuracy.

however if the earth was flat many things are physically impossible, like the observed distribution of sunlight on the face of the earth and the rising and setting of the sun, eclipses of the sun & moon, the motion of planets, the seasons, lunar phases, gravity, orbital mechanics, fuel consumption for aircraft, magnetic 'north', horizons, long-range ballistics, large-scale weather patterns, ocean tides and currents, all kinds of optical phenomena in the sky, many many things.
and all those things are 100% explained with a physical model of a heliocentric system of roundish planets & moons, when atmospheric phenomena are taken into account properly. 100%.

how do you think we know when an eclipse is going to happen or what time the sun sets? certainly not with a FE model. there is no existing FE model that can even explain the sunrise, but God shows this to every eye, every day.

Yes that pretty much what a real vaccine does , you obviously haven't done your homework.

I think you misunderstood my post. Game programmers use FE model because it is much easier to program and takes up much less computer resources to calculate. I play an online game. I spent more money than I would like to upgrade so I could have a usable frame rate. GPS and computer simulations don't have all that much in common.

But then there are many who will go to the hospital if they get hurt, trusting the doctors and the science that helps them fix you, but when it comes to vaccines which have been helpful for centuries they don't trust them despite it being the same science

Does the subject of Flat Earth even matter? Yes, absolutely. ... It is not therefore surprising that modern scientism would also lie about the shape of the Earth, especially since the globe lie leads to the following natural conclusions:

- Earth is just another planet that formed due to natural processes over eons.
- Earth is no different than any other habitable world out there, and it is just one of many.
- Humanity is just the most evolved, dominant intelligent life that developed naturalistically on this planet (one of many).
- Human life is therefore not unique and it is laughable to say we are created in God's image.
- History is not under God's control and we must be fearful every minute that our fragile space rock Earth could be destroyed by a rogue planet, asteroid strike, supernova, or piece of wayward dark matter.
- If the Earth coalesced over eons from debris caught in the Sun's gravity, then this obviously contradicts the Biblical Creation account, which must be discounted as myth.

Well, friend, if you look up every instance of "earth," "world," "sun," "moon," "sky," "firmament," "heaven," "sea," "wave" in the King James Bible and consider them with an open mind, you will come to the inescapable conclusion that the Bible is a flat earth book.

Wow, a Biblical argument for the Flat Earth. While I've met many believers in the cosmology before, I've seen little in the way on Bible conversation about it. Most of the Flat Earther's I've met worked for a game company, I was employed at NOA in Seattle and North Bend for a total of 12 years myself. The Flat Earth Cosmology appeals to D&D aficionados, Terry Prachet fans, and generally speaking all manner of flat screen video gamers. The first person to propose it, at least according to people I've met in the trade, was Ramanujan, the Indian Character from The Man Who Knew Infinity. Someone asked him about cosmology, and he said the Earth was as flat disk riding on the back of an Elephant, and that the elephant stood on the back of a turtle, and that from there it was turtles all the way down. From my admittedly very limited research, it does appear that that is the official Indian and Hindu cosmology, believed all over Asia. However, most people I've personally met who were into it have been fairly drunk couch potatoes with a lot of expensive Nintendo Hardware.

The most recent resurgence in flat earth thinking arose about 2012-2014. But over 120 years ago there was a serious community of Biblical flat earthers as well. They wrote these legendary books, whose arguments have largely gone unanswered to this day by modern scientism:

"Terra Firma: The Earth Not A Planet, Proved From Scripture, Reason, and Fact" by David Wardlaw Scott, 1901
"Zetetic Astronomy: Earth Not A Globe" by "Parallax" (Samuel Rowbotham), 1881
"Zetetic Cosmogony, or Conclusive Evidence That The World is not a ROTATING-REVOLVING GLOBE, but A STATIONARY CIRCLE" by "Rectangle" (Natal Durban), 1899
"Kings Dethroned" by Gerrard Hickson, 1922
"Is The Bible From Heaven? Is The Earth A Globe?" by Alex Gleason, 1890
"One Hundred Proofs That The Earth Is Not A Globe" by WM. Carpenter, 1885

None of them had Nintendos. I'm not sure couches were even invented back then either.