The False Teaching (& Truth) of what happens at the Rapture.

It was revealed in 2014 trump was a candidate for the president.

Uh, was that at the end, middle or beginning of his term as president????

Listen real closely......It was pre




....pre. the AC is REVEALED at the white horse. THAT WOULD BE BEFORE HE IS SEATED.
Drumroll please........BEFFORE THE GT!!!!!!

REVEALED PREtrib
Unveiled BEFORE the trib!!!!!!

Your entire eschatology is now in need of serious overhaul.

I do 100% agree with the church being a part of the Apostasy, but for the opposite reason. They not only don't heed the 1st warning Christ gave about then end times, they also break the first commandment.


Ask yourself

1. WHY would anyone BUT THE CHURCH care if the antichrist was standing where he ought not claiming to be GOD?

2. Who but THE CHURCH could be UNFAITHFUL since it is only the church who HAS FAITH to begin with?

3. Who but the CHURCH is given the TRUTH making THEM the only group who could truly be DECEIVED?

4. Why is God telling the church any of this if they won't even be here?

5 Is the bible written for those who DO BELIEVE or for those who DON'T?

6. Who is this written to and who is the 'you'?

Matthew 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for My name's sake.

7. Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

HAS GOD SET IT UP so that it is almost impossible to come to faith by REMOVING EVERYONE who has any knowledge and could share the good news? How does that help Him accomplish his wish that 'all come to repentance'? If the only ones left have never heard the words of God and there are only two men on the planet with that information, do some get lucky while others get taken in by the beast never have been given a chance? How would you feel about God if you were just in the process of coming to faith but still not quite there when everyone who could help you was gone?

8. I am sure you agree Jesus was speaking to the Apostles in Matt 24 so please ask yourself WHO is being addressed here? Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,

9 Who is being told this? Matthew 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains. Would God be giving warning to UNBELIEVERS? Why would they be reading the bible? Who would be showing them where to look?

10. Again, who is this information for? Who is Jesus talking to and what was the question being answered?
Matthew 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day

11. Are Gods elect a member of the body of Christ? If yes, then if they have been raptured before this then what does this mean?
Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. We know that for the pre trib theory the 'church' must be divided from the 'Jews' because they have to be punished for being born of the bloodline is the church also going to separate themselves from Gods elect?

12. So we have the church to be pre trib raptured

But we have the Jews who don't go
We have Gods elect that don't go
We have the two witnesses that don't go
We have the church of Smyrna that don't go (behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days)
This church CAN'T GO "thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate".
AND this church that can't go thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.



Since PRE TRIB makes it impossible to 'keepeth HIS WORKS unto the end' it also makes it impossible to receive any of the promises that follow because IF THEY DID it would void out way to many verses. Does that sit well with you?

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth My works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations
27 And He shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
28 And I will give him the morning star.


I understand the messages go out to the churches but they all end with a PERSONAL, individual command to hear. Why do you think that is?


29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Answer the questions or not, they are more for you anyhow.

12. So we have the church to be pre trib raptured

But we have the Jews who don't go

We have the two witnesses that don't go

YES, THAT WOULD BE THE WHITE HORSE CARRYING THE KING OF KINGS AND THE LORD OF LORDS DESCENDING FROM HEAVEN TO SET UP HIS KINGDOM HERE ON EARTH

IT IS ONLY THE BRIGHTNESS OF CHRISTS' RETURN THAT REVEALS WHO SATAN IS.

HE WOULDN'T BE STANDING WHERE HE OUGHT NOT IF REVEALED BEFORE THEN.

THE WORLD WOULD NOT BE WORSHIPPING HIM IF THEY KNEW HE WAS THE DEVIL.

THAT IS WHAT THE DECEPTION IS ALL ABOUT. HE IS NOT CHRIST RETURNED HE IS THE

INSTEAD OF CHRIST. SENT ON THE FIRST WHITE HORSE WHO A CROWN THAT WAS GIVEN TO HIM. WHO DO YOU THINK GAVE HIM THE CROWN? HE WAS SENT TO OVERCOME.

WE ARE TOLD TO OVERCOME.

I WONDER WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO OVERCOME.


2Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

2Thessalonians 2:9 whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

THE WORLD WOULD NOT BE WORSHIPPING HIM IF THEY KNEW HE WAS THE DEVIL

And the Church is NEVER mentioned anyhere from chapters 6 through 18. The reasons are obvious if you have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.

And the Church is NEVER mentioned anyhere from chapters 6 through 18. The reasons are obvious if you have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.

It also says all take the mark or get beheaded.

It is implied we will know who he is. (pretrib in fact)

correct. The rapture is the gathering of the bride pretrib.
But The jews DO go to heaven Later on in the gt in rev 14


Nope
They are martyred and are resurrected and raptured about mid trib

When the 'prince of the power of the air' and his angels ARE CAST OUT OF HEAVEN AND DESCEND UPON THE EARTH, the DEADLY WOUND is healed, these lying signs and wonders are WITNESSED by the whole world. So when the image is set up the world is all to happy to worship after snake, the serpent, the dragon because THEY BELIEVE it is the SAVIOUR RETURNED as he has just saved the world.

but AS WE KNOW and so can't be deceived, it isn't really Christ at all, it is SATAN and his armies.

Which means

there isn't A 'CHURCH' on the planet that is still worshipping GOD and do you know why?

BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL TAUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BE RAPTURED AWAY BEFORE HE CAME AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE A CLUE.

AND SINCE THEY WILL BELIEVE THAT LIE, THERE ISN'T ANY LIE THEY WONT BELIEVE.

SO THE CHURCH HAS MORPHED INTO SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN. AGAIN, un beknownst to them.

And what does that mean?

That the daily oblation is cut off.

WHY?

because the love of Gods people isn't going to HIM any more it is going to the one CALLING himself GOD. STANDING where he ought not, claiming to be GOD.


IT IS TRULY A DARK DARK NIGHT. THEN like a thief in the night, when least expected because the whole world is saying peace and safety


SUDDEN DESTRUCTION, RUN for the mountains and PRAY for them to fall on you because YOU KNOW AT THAT MOMENT YOU HAVE BEEN DECEIVED

THE ONE CLAIMING TO BE GOD IS REVEALED TO BE THE DRAGON.

AND YOU REALIZE IN THAT MOMENT THAT SOULS EVERY WHERE WERE DROPPING LIKE FLIES. WOMEN WERE BEING RAVAGED, AS THE ROBBERY OF ETERNAL LIFE FROM THOSE CLAIMING TO BE GODS CHILDREN, CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIANS IS BROUGHT TO LIGHT BY THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS RETURN.

AND as He arrives THE FIRST DEATH TO ALL WITH THE MARK OF THE BEAST and the dead rise THE WHORES. Worshipping after another GOD. allowing themselves to be deceived AND THEY HAD THE WORDS OF GOD RIGHT IN THEIR HANDS. COULD YOU IMAGINE IF THEY WERE TEACHERS OF SOMETHING OTHER THAN GODS TRUTH? JUDGEMENT STARTS RIGHT THERE BECAUSE EVERYONE WE TEACH A LIE TO, IS ON OUR HEADS.

BUT THOSE who did put on the armor, who remained faithful to GOD, they have no mark and the FIRST DEATH did not touch them so they are alive and remaining

they are CHANGED and will be ruling and reigning with Christ for the next 1000 years that Satan is bound.


Why, how do you think it goes?

And the Church is NEVER mentioned anyhere from chapters 6 through 18. The reasons are obvious if you have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.

That's always been a false claim. The church is everywhere through those chapters.

Really? And yet the words "the Church", "church" and "churches" are absent. A rather strange situation, don't you think?

And why would the Church be subject to God's wrath? You should struggle with that question before you go any further.

That's always been a false claim. The church is everywhere through those chapters.

Prophecy that Christian saints who are the Church would be killed during the Great Tribulation:

Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.


What are the two candlesticks?

Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.


"and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches"


Candlesticks represent churches which are groups of Christians who are part of The Church and they are right there in the Great Tribulation which proves the claims of Pre-trib to be wrong. The Church will go through the Great Tribulation. Many of that Church will leave the Church in the Apostasia but there will be many that don't become "Apostasia-ates".

Satan's wrath and starting the Great Tribulation which is a war against Christians/the church:

Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath , because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


This war is the great tribulation and it is specifically a war against the remnant of the woman's seed AND those who have the testimony of Jesus Christ. That's the church!




The Christian saints who are the Church are killed during Satan's wrathful Great Tribulation are resurrected:

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God , and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years .

They were killed in the great tribulation. They weren't raptured to heaven before the great tribulation!

Tribulation Saints. Wake up and smell the coffee buddy.

That is because Revelation is addressed TO NT believers, or the church.


Hold on a bit. Let's look at Rev 22:16 - “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

This is in the LAST chapter of Revelation. So this shows that the focus throughout the book is on the church.

Any saints are the Church. Thus, the Church is going to go through the Great Tribulation as multiple scriptures prove. The two candlestick churches of the two witnesses are likely going to be modern version of Smyrna and Philadelphia. The other churches will be in the Great Tribulation also, some likely falling away in the Apostasy, and some simply are not part of the two witnesses but remain faithful to Christ.

So, as scripture shows, all of what shall remain of the Church is very present in the Great Tribulation. The Great Tribulation is all about what the Church must suffer from the wrath of satan, Revelation 11, 12 and 13 show that, along with the 5th seal and Revelation 20.

That is not so. Christ suffered the judgment of God for us and as we are IN Christ we do not have to come under God`s judgment.

This is a strawman fallacy. No one has said Christians will suffer God's wrath or punishing judgment. The topic is whether the Church will suffer satan's wrath or not and the bible says YES.

Really? And yet the words "the Church", "church" and "churches" are absent. A rather strange situation, don't you think? And why would the Church be subject to God's wrath? You should struggle with that question before you go any further.