I feel like I am being takin advantage of...

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Oct 23, 2021
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I have a friend that is struggling with addiction, meth, possibly heroine. I have been bringing him to church, letting him stay with me 4-5 days a week, feeding him and anything I can do to help with his struggles.
His family all live here in town, but none of them want him to stay with them for a number of reasons. My problems lays in the fact that I live on disability and I receive a little help on my rent, not much, but every little bit helps.
I am now on the verge of losing my place because people have said that he is living here with me, also I get no help from any of his family in this (been 6 months so far). I mention something to his dad about my struggles but my pride won't allow me to ask for help. (I know, I don't need lessons on pride). So the other day, when he was supposed to come for church, he shows up with about 75.00 worth of food from the most expensive store in town, over half of it are things I don't eat, and tells me we can work out a trade, I go do some work around his house in trade for the "help" he gave me. I have no problem with helping him as I have already told him many times, I would just ask, because I didn't know what he wanted and didn't want done.
The thing is, on the "farm" where my friend lives (his dad has moved into town) there are about 8 - 12 people living there, i don't go because I am sure the police are watching it already and don't want my car seen there or caught up in it if they raid the place while I am there. My friends dad pays for utilities, internet, food, gas, cigarettes, for pretty much everyone there most of the time. I mention something the other day about him enabling and of course I get turned into the bad guy.
I would like some thoughts on how to handle this situation without causing conflict and stress on his dad as he has cancer an is afraid to lose his son in the process. I think his son should be helping him around the house, he should be giving his son a place to stay, he should be buying his food, he should not be buying his cigarettes, (if you can't afford them then you don't need them).
 
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SophieT

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I have a friend that is struggling with addiction, meth, possibly heroine. I have been bringing him to church, letting him stay with me 4-5 days a week, feeding him and anything I can do to help with his struggles.
His family all live here in town, but none of them want him to stay with them for a number of reasons. My problems lays in the fact that I live on disability and I receive a little help on my rent, not much, but every little bit helps.
I am now on the verge of losing my place because people have said that he is living here with me, also I get no help from any of his family in this (been 6 months so far). I mention something to his dad about my struggles but my pride won't allow me to ask for help. (I know, I don't need lessons on pride). So the other day, when he was supposed to come for church, he shows up with about 75.00 worth of food from the most expensive store in town, over half of it are things I don't eat, and tells me we can work out a trade, I go do some work around his house in trade for the "help" he gave me. I have no problem with helping him as I have already told him many times, I would just ask, because I didn't know what he wanted and didn't want done.
The thing is, on the "farm" where my friend lives (his dad has moved into town) there are about 8 - 12 people living there, i don't go because I am sure the police are watching it already and don't want my car seen there or caught up in it if they raid the place while I am there. My friends dad pays for utilities, internet, food, gas, cigarettes, for pretty much everyone there most of the time. I mention something the other day about him enabling and of course I get turned into the bad guy.
I would like some thoughts on how to handle this situation without causing conflict and stress on his dad as he has cancer an is afraid to lose his son in the process. I think his son should be helping him around the house, he should be giving his son a place to stay, he should be buying his food, he should not be buying his cigarettes, (if you can't afford them then you don't need them).

hi there

you have written this post in a section called blogs...kind of like a blog online and not really where you discuss

I think you might try posting this in the family forum if you want some replies...you will need a title and submit it and a moderator will approve it and then go from there
 

JTB

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First off don't lose your place because of him. You can help him more with a roof over your head than if you're both homeless.

The compound, the family, the (stolen?) groceries for solo work... I wouldn't want to swim those waters. I'd invite the friend to church as part of a day together, but as long as he's using and taking advantage of you the rest of it I'd keep at ten-foot-pole status.

Tell me, are you of a similar background?
 
Nov 23, 2021
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I have a friend that is struggling with addiction, meth, possibly heroine. I have been bringing him to church, letting him stay with me 4-5 days a week, feeding him and anything I can do to help with his struggles.
His family all live here in town, but none of them want him to stay with them for a number of reasons. My problems lays in the fact that I live on disability and I receive a little help on my rent, not much, but every little bit helps.
I am now on the verge of losing my place because people have said that he is living here with me, also I get no help from any of his family in this (been 6 months so far). I mention something to his dad about my struggles but my pride won't allow me to ask for help. (I know, I don't need lessons on pride). So the other day, when he was supposed to come for church, he shows up with about 75.00 worth of food from the most expensive store in town, over half of it are things I don't eat, and tells me we can work out a trade, I go do some work around his house in trade for the "help" he gave me. I have no problem with helping him as I have already told him many times, I would just ask, because I didn't know what he wanted and didn't want done.
The thing is, on the "farm" where my friend lives (his dad has moved into town) there are about 8 - 12 people living there, i don't go because I am sure the police are watching it already and don't want my car seen there or caught up in it if they raid the place while I am there. My friends dad pays for utilities, internet, food, gas, cigarettes, for pretty much everyone there most of the time. I mention something the other day about him enabling and of course I get turned into the bad guy.
I would like some thoughts on how to handle this situation without causing conflict and stress on his dad as he has cancer an is afraid to lose his son in the process. I think his son should be helping him around the house, he should be giving his son a place to stay, he should be buying his food, he should not be buying his cigarettes, (if you can't afford them then you don't need them).
The commandments of the Lord are not grievous, the Bible says .Ministry flows from relationship. You are not called to be a buffer between the consequences of someones choices. This may sound critical or hypocritical but hear me out . There has to be a point where you say "Not my circus not my monkeys". You should stand apart if necessary and seek the Lord continue in His Word and focus on Jesus your savior for yourself. Ministry will flow from your relationship with him. A vine branch sort of thing. Has there been a conversion in this persons life ? if he is doing Meth or Heroin I would say you need to stand apart and not be unequally yoked. If he is a backslidden Christian , don't be a buffer but seek the Lord for yourself. The idea being without having Jesus to share it really doesn't matter much what you do for him. " Your own wickedness will correct you and your backsliding will reprove you". Sometimes the world needs to beat us up a bit before we return to the Lord. We are called out of the world. Intercession is where the action is . Revelation of the throne of Grace the boldness of access by the living blood, assurance that everything we ask in His name is yea and amen. Get the Holy Spirit working on this it is His ministry and you have the faithfulness of God to give the Holy Spirits ministry to convince this one of sin, righteousness and judgement. Let God be God.

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Nov 23, 2021
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I have a friend that is struggling with addiction, meth, possibly heroine. I have been bringing him to church, letting him stay with me 4-5 days a week, feeding him and anything I can do to help with his struggles.
His family all live here in town, but none of them want him to stay with them for a number of reasons. My problems lays in the fact that I live on disability and I receive a little help on my rent, not much, but every little bit helps.
I am now on the verge of losing my place because people have said that he is living here with me, also I get no help from any of his family in this (been 6 months so far). I mention something to his dad about my struggles but my pride won't allow me to ask for help. (I know, I don't need lessons on pride). So the other day, when he was supposed to come for church, he shows up with about 75.00 worth of food from the most expensive store in town, over half of it are things I don't eat, and tells me we can work out a trade, I go do some work around his house in trade for the "help" he gave me. I have no problem with helping him as I have already told him many times, I would just ask, because I didn't know what he wanted and didn't want done.
The thing is, on the "farm" where my friend lives (his dad has moved into town) there are about 8 - 12 people living there, i don't go because I am sure the police are watching it already and don't want my car seen there or caught up in it if they raid the place while I am there. My friends dad pays for utilities, internet, food, gas, cigarettes, for pretty much everyone there most of the time. I mention something the other day about him enabling and of course I get turned into the bad guy.
I would like some thoughts on how to handle this situation without causing conflict and stress on his dad as he has cancer an is afraid to lose his son in the process. I think his son should be helping him around the house, he should be giving his son a place to stay, he should be buying his food, he should not be buying his cigarettes, (if you can't afford them then you don't need them).
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OneOfHis

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I have a friend that is struggling with addiction, meth, possibly heroine. I have been bringing him to church, letting him stay with me 4-5 days a week, feeding him and anything I can do to help with his struggles.
His family all live here in town, but none of them want him to stay with them for a number of reasons. My problems lays in the fact that I live on disability and I receive a little help on my rent, not much, but every little bit helps.
I am now on the verge of losing my place because people have said that he is living here with me, also I get no help from any of his family in this (been 6 months so far). I mention something to his dad about my struggles but my pride won't allow me to ask for help. (I know, I don't need lessons on pride). So the other day, when he was supposed to come for church, he shows up with about 75.00 worth of food from the most expensive store in town, over half of it are things I don't eat, and tells me we can work out a trade, I go do some work around his house in trade for the "help" he gave me. I have no problem with helping him as I have already told him many times, I would just ask, because I didn't know what he wanted and didn't want done.
The thing is, on the "farm" where my friend lives (his dad has moved into town) there are about 8 - 12 people living there, i don't go because I am sure the police are watching it already and don't want my car seen there or caught up in it if they raid the place while I am there. My friends dad pays for utilities, internet, food, gas, cigarettes, for pretty much everyone there most of the time. I mention something the other day about him enabling and of course I get turned into the bad guy.
I would like some thoughts on how to handle this situation without causing conflict and stress on his dad as he has cancer an is afraid to lose his son in the process. I think his son should be helping him around the house, he should be giving his son a place to stay, he should be buying his food, he should not be buying his cigarettes, (if you can't afford them then you don't need them).
This is definitely a rough situation for anyone to be in.

I'm not the most wise but what I would do is pray about it and really pour my heart out to God.

It sounds to me like you may have shouldered too much. (just my opinion only knowing so little)



I am no father but I imagine if my son was practically leeching off someone while feeding habits that he ought to seek deliverance from, I'm not sure I'd want that someone to continue being used in that way even if they were willing and their intentions were pure.



I pray God helps you see His will in this man....
 
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TheIndianGirl

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You need to get yourself a DECENT roommate. It might also be financially more economical to rent/own a smaller place, etc. You can still help your struggling friend through emotional support, bringing him to church, etc. but you don't need to live with him. Your friend is involved with crime, and is not just a struggling friend, so that is nothing to easily look over.
 
Oct 23, 2021
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First off don't lose your place because of him. You can help him more with a roof over your head than if you're both homeless.

The compound, the family, the (stolen?) groceries for solo work... I wouldn't want to swim those waters. I'd invite the friend to church as part of a day together, but as long as he's using and taking advantage of you the rest of it I'd keep at ten-foot-pole status.

Tell me, are you of a similar background?
i am indeed
 
Oct 23, 2021
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hi there

you have written this post in a section called blogs...kind of like a blog online and not really where you discuss

I think you might try posting this in the family forum if you want some replies...you will need a title and submit it and a moderator will approve it and then go from there
sorry i will repost elsewhere then.
 
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SophieT

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sorry i will repost elsewhere then.
oh no worries... nothing to be sorry about

it's just that to get a response, you need to post in the actual forum

looks like you are getting replies here too...haha....maybe ignore me
 

JTB

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Which makes you more sympathetic towards those who are. The trick is discerning the line between helping and enabling. Catching a man a fish vs teaching a man to fish. Trouble with the teaching part is that student has to want to learn. And we can't want to for them, no matter how much we want them to.
 
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What is great about being saved is you can now do something for your loved ones . Jesus loves them more, and His love is shed abroad in your heart. Now with access to God , you get what you ask for on a friends behalf. Their salvation depends on the ministry of the Holy Spirit . You get that for them , absent or present. If your caregiving is the requirement for their continued friendship. Well , that would be something you decide . Letting go of lifelong friends you may have a history with is a grievous thing but sometimes you are walked through such a season by the Lord. You might have fun interceding for your friend and enforcing the victory of Calvary over the spirits the enemy has assigned to his life. Someone said , friends are friends until they are not. Pray for him.
 
Oct 23, 2021
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S.W. Missouri
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You need to get yourself a DECENT roommate. It might also be financially more economical to rent/own a smaller place, etc. You can still help your struggling friend through emotional support, bringing him to church, etc. but you don't need to live with him. Your friend is involved with crime, and is not just a struggling friend, so that is nothing to easily look over.
I have indeed moved into a smaller place, he is not a roommate nor do i want one, i had a long heart to heart with his dad today. He didn't truly understand what i was going through and has agreed to do more in his sons recovery.
My friend himself wants the change, it's just the circumstances of where he lives, it is his place, but you can't just throw people out in the state we live in, there are squatter rights that we are are going to have to work though. I n the mean time we are going to try to get him into a recovery house that one of our churches have that will hold him accountable, and aide him in his struggles. As he works thought the program (1 year long, min.) the will put him into a job. Nothing happens over night, and now today I found help in my struggles, it should be better for all of those involved in the process. It will take some time and many prayers, but I am ready for this and I know God with be there to help us.