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ManonFire63

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well I have come across the demon threads but missed where Eve was possessed in the garden...at least they did not spout Lilith as the first wife of Adam....or maybe confused her with Eve....didn't see the post
The story of Lilith comes from Talmudic Judaism. Adam didn't have a wife before Eve, however, there appears to be a "Form" like Plato's The Forms, a form of a Lilith type of Spirit. That may be like the dragon in Beowulf.

All occultism may have been leading someone towards Gnosticism, a Christian Heresy. In Gnosticism, they have believed that Jesus was married. That may be a "Form of Something." The idea that Adam had a wife before Eve, in a feminist way, would be "The Form of Something." Talmudic Jews use Kabbalah, which, according to Jew101.com, is mean for married men over the age of 40, with a lot of study in Torah. Occult groups such as The Golden Dawn, which produce Aleister Crowley, and Wicca, they have used Kabbalah. Kabbalah has been spiritualism for deniers of Christ.

Modonna may have been a Lilith like person who was birthing abominations and demons in sin. She has been an apostate. She may have "Birthed" a Brittany Spears. Both my have lead many into sin.

Link: Old News - Still Relevant - Brittany Spears and Kabbalah

When Brittany Spears shaved her head, and went crazy, was she mentally ill or was what she was going through something spiritual in nature?
 

ManonFire63

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ManonFire63, post: 4767088, member: 220085"]Where did you find that? I don't remember posting it unless it was around 2015 or so, and it is not linked to my profile. How deep did you run?

you said it in a blog post. that's where I 'found' it

How do miracles work? Other than "Because God told them to," why did the prophets of the Bible do the things they did? How many Angels are there, and what exactly do they do?

uh...about the magic tho.......???

There is Spiritual Law is not exactly The Laws of Moses.
  • Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; but his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers. The wicked are not so, but are like chaff that the wind drives away. (Psalms 1:1-4)
my delight is in salvation and the One who saved me...not of myself...the law never saved anyone and still condemns those without Christ today


I have been living day to day. like the rest of us no doubt...can't live in the past and the future is not yet here

Did you know what I was going to do today? no. should I have? I only came across your posts today :unsure:

I didn't either other than server God.

You quoted a testimony, I believe I originally gave on Tumblr possibly. I have tended to free write things. A more refined version may be:

nope. it was right here on CC. posted the link up top. I don't do all the social media stuff.

Post: Bible Study: "The Holy Grail" on /r/Bible.

what holy grail? there is no grail in scripture...although Monty Python attempted some humor with it

As for numbers, the Temple of Jerusalem was destroyed twice on the 9th Jewish month of Av. There may be profound things to numbers and dates. Trying to calculate something may be like trying to calculate pi.

so how far have you got with this pastime?

God is God you cannot control. Pagans made gods to try and control something.

do you ever feel controlled? God does not control people. nor lead them on pointless errands or have them run aground

The Lord is my shepherd, and I became aware of a lot of hard to handle things. The Truth hurts. Knowledge brings sorrow. Ignorance is bliss?

actually, scripture says the truth sets us free.

Jesus the Light of the World
(1 John 1:5–10)


12Once again, Jesus spoke to the people and said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows Me will never walk in the darkness, but will have the light of life.”

13So the Pharisees said to Him, “You are testifying about Yourself; Your testimony is not valid.”

14Jesus replied, “Even if I testify about Myself, My testimony is valid, because I know where I came from and where I am going. But you do not know where I came from or where I am going. 15You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one. 16But even if I do judge, My judgment is true, because I am not alone; I am with the Father who sent Me.e 17Even in your own Law it is written that the testimony of two men is valid.f 18I am One who testifies about Myself, and the Father, who sent Me, also testifies about Me.”

19“Where is Your Father?” they asked Him.

“You do not know Me or My Father,” Jesus answered. “If you knew Me, you would know My Father as well.”

20He spoke these words while teaching in the temple courts, near the treasury. Yet no one seized Him, because His hour had not yet come.

21Again He said to them, “I am going away, and you will look for Me, but you will die in your sin. Where I am going, you cannot come.”

22So the Jews began to ask, “Will He kill Himself, since He says, ‘Where I am going, you cannot come’?”

23Then He told them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24That is why I told you that you would die in your sins. For unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”

25“Who are You?” they asked.

“Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied. 26“I have much to say about you and much to judge. But the One who sent Me is truthful, and what I have heard from Him, I tell the world.”

27They did not understand that He was telling them about the Father. 28So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing on My own, but speak exactly what the Father has taught Me. 29He who sent Me is with Me. He has not left Me alone, because I always do what pleases Him.”

The Truth Will Set You Free
(2 John 1:4–6)


30As Jesus spoke these things, many believed in Him. 31So He said to the Jews who had believed Him, “If you continue in My word, you are truly My disciples. 32Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
John 8


Knowledge brings sorrow

no. knowledge is a good thing. here are some biblical examples

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7

For wisdom will come into your heart, and knowledge will be pleasant to your soul; Proverbs 2:10

Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates reproof is stupid. Proverbs 12:1

An intelligent heart acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge. Proverbs 18:15

If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him. James 1:5

For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, I Corinthians 12:8

And so, from the day we heard, we have not ceased to pray for you, asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, Colossians 1:9

God is a judge. As such, there are particular ways God judges things.

The Law, as often referenced by Apostle Paul, would be The Laws of Moses. Spiritual Law is between the lines, and seen in the context of men living God. Seen in the context of how God says he works through his prophets, and observing history.

the truth is we are ALL at the same level of holiness and it is not our own :)
Some people have been working to force equality. In forcing equality, righteousness is hard. Some people have worked to make everyone equal, as in equally wicked.

Sanctification is a process. Repent. Choose God. Seek God.
 

ManonFire63

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Knowledge brings sorrow

no. knowledge is a good thing. here are some biblical examples

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction. Proverbs 1:7

For wisdom will come into your heart, and knowledge will be pleasant to your soul; Proverbs 2:10

Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates reproof is stupid. Proverbs 12:1

An intelligent heart acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge. Proverbs 18:15

If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him. James 1:5

For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, I Corinthians 12:8

And so, from the day we heard, we have not ceased to pray for you, asking that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, Colossians 1:9
Nothing new happens under the sun. (Ecclesiastes 1:9-11) Time goes in a circle? Was someone who was outside of God, were they believing they were "Progressing Society?" They were falling into intelligent design traps, and nothing new happens under the sun.

Given someone has knowledge about how God works in history, that be hard to handle for some.
 

ManonFire63

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Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death. (2 Corinthians 7:10)
A lot of people, not understanding spiritual warfare, not understanding God, they haven't understood Spiritual or God's Logic.


Spiritual Logic and Paradoxes

The Bible is full of valid statements that may have seemed contradictory. The Truth is up the middle. Like a Catholic crossing himself?
  • God is Love. (1 John 4:8)
  • The Lord is a Man of War. (Exodus 15:3)
  • Show kindness and mercy.
  • Spare the rod, spoil the child.
Given I am a teacher in a classroom, and I have misbehaving children. I show no kindness or mercy by sparing the proverbial rod.
Also:
  • When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. (1 Corinthians 13:11)
  • And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 18:3)
Someone reads the New Testament from an Old Testament understanding. Being righteous is hard. Someone meeting God's standards for righteousness may have been a stoic individual. He lived hard. John the Baptist lived in the wild. Jesus to be Son of God, had to hit certain standards. He was tested. He walked knowingly to his death with purpose. Someone serving God may have been a hard man. Also, unless someone is like a child they cannot get into the Kingdom of Heaven. Someone experiencing God may have become a Son of God. God may have done very specific things towards breaking down someone's ego, and humbling man towards him being like a Child.

Previous Post: Circumcision of the Heart. (Extended) on r/metaspiritual.
Previous Post: Comic Book Characters and Christian Allegories on r/Conceptual_Biblestudy.
 

ManonFire63

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Equality and God -

As Christians, given we are all saved, there is an equality there. We are brothers and sisters in Christ. Someone could be rich or poor, slave or free, we are brothers and sisters in Christ. It doesn't matter where you were born.

Given I were to ask "Who is the greatest prophet? Moses? Ezekiel? Jeremiah? Who is the greatest prophet???" Trick question.

There is no G.O.A.T there like ESPN after Disney bought it, tied into Freemasonry and riding the goat. That gets into pride. Given someone serving God, it may be like they are on a race track. It is a blessing just to be there. Everyone has their lane predetermined by God. We all do our part.
 
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SophieT

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Sure. You had to do some digging to find that. I am impressed. I am not ashamed. I am impressed. You must have cared. Not many people care that much.
no I did no digging at all

none.
 
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SophieT

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God is a judge. As such, there are particular ways God judges things.

The Law, as often referenced by Apostle Paul, would be The Laws of Moses. Spiritual Law is between the lines, and seen in the context of men living God. Seen in the context of how God says he works through his prophets, and observing history.



Some people have been working to force equality. In forcing equality, righteousness is hard. Some people have worked to make everyone equal, as in equally wicked.

Sanctification is a process. Repent. Choose God. Seek God.
who gave the law to Moses? does the law save people?

you may be attempting to be 'mysterious'

what does the law have to do with salvation? what part did Jesus play, if any, in the law?

I am not talking or asking about equality. why did you throw that in there?
 
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SophieT

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The story of Lilith comes from Talmudic Judaism. Adam didn't have a wife before Eve, however, there appears to be a "Form" like Plato's The Forms, a form of a Lilith type of Spirit. That may be like the dragon in Beowulf.

All occultism may have been leading someone towards Gnosticism, a Christian Heresy. In Gnosticism, they have believed that Jesus was married. That may be a "Form of Something." The idea that Adam had a wife before Eve, in a feminist way, would be "The Form of Something." Talmudic Jews use Kabbalah, which, according to Jew101.com, is mean for married men over the age of 40, with a lot of study in Torah. Occult groups such as The Golden Dawn, which produce Aleister Crowley, and Wicca, they have used Kabbalah. Kabbalah has been spiritualism for deniers of Christ.

Modonna may have been a Lilith like person who was birthing abominations and demons in sin. She has been an apostate. She may have "Birthed" a Brittany Spears. Both my have lead many into sin.

Link: Old News - Still Relevant - Brittany Spears and Kabbalah

When Brittany Spears shaved her head, and went crazy, was she mentally ill or was what she was going through something spiritual in nature?

if I mentioned that, why would you think I need instruction?

that post was not directed to anything you said....but of course this is a public forum
 
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SophieT

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obscure and confusing answers generally do not work as they generally lead nowhere
 

Gardenias

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Thank you. Sorry I took a bit to return.i feel kinship with the word I see in your post bc it touches the spiritual in mine.
I may be a grumpy ole soul sometimes but IF I SHOULD need a rebuke,a reproof or a correction in anything I've been instructed in the word or my fleshy attitudes........ANY Plz do NOT hesitate.
I had rather my fruit be inspected and dismissed bu than to ROT before man.
Help me turn my soil.......ANYTIME!
 
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SophieT

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God is a judge. As such, there are particular ways God judges things.

nope

God, is THE judge

of the whole earth


Far be it from You to do such a thing—to strike the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous and the wicked are treated alike. Far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right [by executing just and righteous judgment]?” Genesis 18:25

God is Spirit. God is holy. God is righteous. just a few of his attributes
 

Gardenias

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It appears that upon questioning and vetting what others say,not just letting it slip by or go brings OUT THE TRUTH in erroneous belief or thinking.

Lies or outright heresies get posted and read by unbelievers and leads people down paths God did NOT intend.

Let us ALL be transparent as possible in what we believe,how we live and worship God. If called on it humble ,yourself rather than being puffed up, pouty and arrogant. LEARN,GET UNDERSTANDING!

I read somewhere I don't just want to be right but I want to GET IT RIGHT.
SURE,SURE, then ATTITUDES come pouring out from wounded pride. Grow up people,this is not a game,IT IS LIFE OR DEATH,yours and mine!
 

ManonFire63

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who gave the law to Moses? does the law save people?

you may be attempting to be 'mysterious'

what does the law have to do with salvation? what part did Jesus play, if any, in the law?

I am not talking or asking about equality. why did you throw that in there?

The Bible is The Word of God. Have you ever heard some say "My Word is my Bond?"

The Bible is The WORD of God. God does not lie. Jesus came fulfilling the words of the prophets.

Someone like Apostle Paul often taught out of the Book of Isaiah, showing people how prophecy was being fulfilled.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Thank you. Sorry I took a bit to return.i feel kinship with the word I see in your post bc it touches the spiritual in mine.
I may be a grumpy ole soul sometimes but IF I SHOULD need a rebuke,a reproof or a correction in anything I've been instructed in the word or my fleshy attitudes........ANY Plz do NOT hesitate.
I had rather my fruit be inspected and dismissed bu than to ROT before man.
Help me turn my soil.......ANYTIME!
same to you sister . I feel a great connection to your words also .Of all you have ever said that I’ve read you simply don’t need a rebuke none of us really do in my opinion we just need to press forward in Christ Jesus together
 

ManonFire63

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same to you sister . I feel a great connection to your words also .Of all you have ever said that I’ve read you simply don’t need a rebuke none of us really do in my opinion we just need to press forward in Christ Jesus together
Lets start with periods and capitalization before a sentence. Sometimes, I make spelling errors. It is like you have zero integrity and would like to flaunt it like it is a good thing?
 

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The Bible is The Word of God. Have you ever heard some say "My Word is my Bond?"

The Bible is The WORD of God. God does not lie. Jesus came fulfilling the words of the prophets.

Someone like Apostle Paul often taught out of the Book of Isaiah, showing people how prophecy was being fulfilled.
Amen that was his exclusive source

“Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:

That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead,

and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭26:22-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Christ should suffer and rose from the dead

“Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:4-6, 10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and show light to the people

“Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.

My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭51:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬

it’s the main message of the prophets all the apostles preached it
 

Pilgrimshope

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Lets start with periods and capitalization before a sentence. Sometimes, I make spelling errors. It is like you have zero integrity and would like to flaunt it like it is a good thing?
or maybe more look at what’s said and respond to those things
 

ManonFire63

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Amen that was his exclusive source

“Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:

That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead,

and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭26:22-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Christ should suffer and rose from the dead

“Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:4-6, 10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and show light to the people

“Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.

My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭51:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬

it’s the main message of the prophets all the apostles preached it

You quoted a lot of Bible at me.

What were you displaying?

Do you understand HOW TO HAVE AND ARGUMENT OR COMMUNICATE?

Were you an unrepentant sinner?