A new president in 2024.

I think the biggest problem with Trump was the media. He said good things that needed to be reported and replayed, but they only showed his tweets. He did encourage his followers to do right, but that stuff didn't get much air time. Now i think there are just too many extremists with terrible views like white supremacy associated with him. If he we're going to run again, i really hope he would denounce those things loud and clear so that people couldn't say those bad things are his views just because people like that support him. As for the election being stolen, the democrats said the same thing when Trump was elected and when GWBush was elected, but they didn't defend themselves so fiercely. They had to let it go.

Oh, we'll have a new "President" in 2024, almost no doubt. And I do think that we will continue having elections. Appearances are important to the Establishment.

The question is whether there will be enough election reform prior to 2024 to actually make those elections meaningful and a true reflection of the voice of the American people.

by 'election reform' do you mean 'gerrymandering' and 'minority voter suppression' and 'loopholes for partisan state legislatures to individually overturn fair and free elections' ?

.. because that's what the GOP has been busy at. are you proud of them?

Yes, I am. And will be even more so as they continue to push back on radical Dems and their lies.

destroying democracy isn't the right way to win secular political power.
do we at least agree on that, or are you "UNIVERSAL GOP DOMINANCE OF THE USA AT ANY COST" ?

because what the GOP has done post-trump is align themselves in obeisance to him like a saviour-king, and put in place as many election-rigging mechanisms as they can. his cult-of-personality draws in so many votes they are prostituting themselves to him at the expense of whatever values they once had.
that's not very cool, constitution-wise.

destroying democracy isn't the right way to win secular political power.
do we at least agree on that, or are you "UNIVERSAL GOP DOMINANCE OF THE USA AT ANY COST" ?

because what the GOP has done post-trump is align themselves in obeisance to him like a saviour-king, and put in place as many election-rigging mechanisms as they can. his cult-of-personality draws in so many votes they are prostituting themselves to him at the expense of whatever values they once had.
that's not very cool, constitution-wise.

Ah Post, I agree with you on so many things. This just isn't one of them. I simply see this as propaganda from the Dem side. I don't believe the GOP is doing that at all. And even it they did, they'd be following what Dems do when it benefits them. You and I both know it.

They Dems say everything must be changed so the election isn't stolen this time round. But isn't that the same election and practices that got them in to office? I wouldn't trust a Dem as far as I could throw one, I'm speaking of gov't. Slim to no trust in either side at this point.

I'm just one little guy, but I know I'm right...I will not go down without a fight!
And while we're at it, keep those jabberwockies away from me!

Oh, btw, America is not and has never been a democracy. Get it right. .

Well, the GOP is actually LOSING seats with a lot of the gerrymandering, so I see that more as capitulating to the radical left.

What about the slithy toves?

gerrymandering is wrong no matter who does it.

i wish we had a congress that would address it, outlaw it, and formulate an objectively fair-handed districting algorithm
i wish we had a congress that would impose term-limits on itself
i wish we had a congress that would truly reform campaign finance
i wish we had a congress that would clean up insider trading & lobbying

but for such things we need selfless congressmen and congresswomen - rather than vain ones


what i do not wish for is yet another 'us vs. them' gang-mentality-to-even-more-hyped-up-degree congress that declares 50% of America to be evil and spends its entire term demonizing their neighbors, deifying their own leadership, and rigging their own re-elections.

((if that makes sense?))

pretty sure Christians are supposed to be a-political.

that is all.

Agreed except for that last bit: "pretty sure Christians are supposed to be a-political."

A lot of people want you to believe that. A lot of people will tell you that Christians should be pacifists too. It's because they don't want you exerting your influence and using your voice. But we are told to let our light shine.

Jesus would have gotten involved if He saw a woman being raped in front of Him on a train. With physical force if needed. He was a carpenter. He overthrew the moneychangers' tables and chased them out of the Temple with a whip. He was no pacifist.

And John the Baptist was not apolitical. In fact, he died for being willing to speak truth to power.

The Scriptures tell us to "render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's." Well, Americans are in a unique place, because - on paper anyways - this nation is OF, BY, and FOR the PEOPLE. US. We have more responsibility to influence the system - which is ours - than any other Christians in history. Don't get me wrong. We're not going to be able to create a paradise on Earth and I'm not advocating theocracy. But we do need to stand for a moral and decent society of law and order. And I believe that may include physically fighting against tyranny if the need arises.

Perhaps the time of the Dems and the GOP is passing and what is needed is a new party.