The Lord's Day (Rev. 1:10) - Sabbath (7th) or Sunday (1st) or Eschatological day or something else?

I don't know if you're a Judaizer or not, I'm just saying there are plenty of them who say the "Lord's Day" is the Saturday Sabbath and if you don't observe it you aren't saved.

The First Day of every month in Rome was the "Emperors Day" so being faithful followers of Jesus Christ, the Disciples named the First Day of every week, the day Jesus rose on, the Lord's Day.

Quite simple really.

I'll answer you directly, since no one wants to answer MY question directly, apparently.

Then there's the Sun standing still in the OT... how did THAT affect the flow of time?

I do not find that in scripture (Isaiah 8:20), and sounds made up. Any historical sources to verify what you stated, in that because Romans took a 'monthly' thing in regards their earthly leader, that Christians would somehow attempt a pattern after it for Heavenly matters, and yet alter it in two ways, saying "Lord" instead of Emperor, and 'weekly' instead of monthly?

Also, how does one go from a 'one time' event in the yearly service of the Lord (Passover unto Firstfruits), and make it a weekly thing?

What did Paul say Christians were to do to remember the resurrection in Romans 6?

What did Jesus say of the Lord's supper in the Gospels, was it to remember the resurrection or His death? Was it weekly, or was it as "oft" as they were to eat together?

Revelation 1:4 - John to the seven churches

Revelation 1:8 - I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending

The answer is in the context, as it always is

I would hope that discussion might take place

I'm not offended at all, but I notice you (intentionally?) skirted around something I mentioned in one of my posts.

Can you demonstrate that the week we observe today lines up with the Creation week? What if we're off by a day or two?

The fact is that no one can prove that the week we've got now is synchronized with the original Creation week, which means that any assertion that a CERTAIN day MUST be adhered to as the seventh day of worship is nonsense.

But feel free to correct me if you can somehow prove that the modern week lines up with Creation week.

I am unsure what you mean by the statement about "Judaizers" in the context of the topic. Can you clarify this for me?

So, are you saying that only "Jews" kept Sabbath and no Gentiles did so? Please clarify.

God rested "the" (definite article, specific) "seventh day"

In Exodus (several thousand years later), God again, stated the 7th day and the week again.

History records that the Christians kept sabbath ever since in the same time, as the Jews since that time, even being spread around the globe.

God even foretold that the same cycle is kept in the New Heavens and Earth (Isaiah 66:22-23).

the same cycle is kept in the New Heavens and Earth (Isaiah 66:22-23)

If "Muddying the waters" is the goal of some, it is not my goal, but rather my goal is to clarify, make known the truth, present documented evidence (and I have much more for the Christians from the time of the Apostles onward throughout history). I also have documentation on the Romans if you need that.

As for instance:

The Roman Historical record of their dealings with Jews:

http://thesourcehh.org/sabbath.htm#books

http://www.academia.edu/4686453/SABBATH_IN_THE_EAST

Romans:

S. Julii Frontini (c. AD 40 - AD 103), written in C. AD. 84, see - https://archive.org/details/libriquatuorstra00fronuoft

Libri Quator; Strategematicon; cum notis integris; Francisci Modii, Godescalci Stewechii, Petri Scriverii, & Samuelis Tennulii. His accedunt, cum P. Scriverii, tum aliorum Doctorum ineditae observationes. Curante Francisco Oudendorpio, Qui & suas adnotationes, variasque MStorum lectiones adjecit. Editio Altera, multo auctior & emendatior. Lugduni Batavorum, Apud Sam. et Joann. Luchtmans, MDCCLXXIX [1779].

"XVII. Divus Augustus Vespasianus Judaeos 54 Saturni die, quo 55 eis nefas est quidquam seriae rei agere, adortus superavit. ...

...54 Saturni die] Sic & Pompejus Hierosolyma expugnavit, quia Judaei nolebant se defendere Sabbato, Dione teste in pompejo. Sabbatum quia praecipua caeremonia colebant, etiam jejunio sacrasse [ut ait Justinus 1 [Page 178-179] XXXVI. C. 2.). ..." Page 178-179 - https://archive.org/stream/libriquat...e/178/mode/1up
https://archive.org/stream/libriquat...e/179/mode/1up

A Google Translated rendition:

""17. Augustus, Vespasian, the Jews on the day of Saturn, 54, 55 in which it is illegal for them to do anything serious matter, attacked them, and overcame them. ...

... Saturday, 54] Thus Pompey captured Jerusalem, because the Jews refused to defend himself on a Saturday, a witness in the Dio Pompejo. Sabbath worship ceremony for the chief, even fasting sacrasse [as the Justin 1 [Pages 178-179] 36. C. 2). ... ""

Cassius Dio (AD 155 – AD 235)

Dio's Roman History III

Dio's Roman History with an English Translation by Earnest Cary, Ph.D. on the basis of the version of Herbert Baldwin Foster, Ph.D. In Nine Volumes, III; London: William Heinemann; New York: The Macmillan CO. MCMXIV [1914].

Battle of c. 63 BC

"... [Page 142-144; Internally Page 125-127] Most of the city, to be sure, he took without any trouble, as he was received by the party of Hyrcanus; but the temple itself, which the other party had occupied, he captured only with difficulty. For it was on high ground and was fortified by a wall of its own, and if they had continued defending it on all days alike, he could not have got possession of it. As it was, they made an exception of what are called the days of Saturn, and by doing [Page 142-144; Internally Page 125-127; Greek text is inbetween; Page 126] no work at all on those days afforded the Romans an opportunity in this interval to batter down the wall. The latter, on learning of this superstitious awe of theirs, made no serious attempts the rest of the time, but on those days, when they came round in succession, assaulted most vigorously. Thus the defenders were captured on the day of Saturn, without making any defence, and all the wealth was plundered. The kingdom was given to Hyrcanus, and Aristobulus was carried away.

This was the course of events at that time in Palestine; for this is the name that has been given from of old to the whole country extending from Phoenicia to Egypt along the inner sea. They have also another name that they have acquired: the country has been named Judaea, and the people themselves Jews. I do not know how this title came to be given them, but it applies also to all the rest of mankind, although of alien race, who affect their customs. This class exists even among the Romans, and though often repressed has increased to a very great extent and has won its way to the right of freedom in its observances. They are distinguished from the rest of mankind in practically every detail of life, and especially by the fact that they do not honour any of the usual gods, but show extreme reverence for one particular divinity. They never had any statue of him even in Jerusalem itself, but believing him to be unnamable and invisible, they worship him in the most extravagant fashion on earth. They built to him a temple [Page 143-145; Internally Page 127-129; Greek text on Page 128] that was extremely large and beautiful, except in so far as it was open and roofless, 1 and likewise dedicated to him the day called the day of Saturn, on which, among many other most peculiar observances, they undertake no serious occupation. ..." [Pages 142-145; Internally Pages 125-129; Greek text is inbetween; Page 126,128] - https://archive.org/stream/L053Cassi.../n141/mode/1up

https://archive.org/stream/L053Cassi.../n143/mode/1up

https://archive.org/stream/L053Cassi...y+of+Saturn%22

Dio's Roman History V

Dio's Roman History with an English Translation by Earnest Cary, Ph.D. on the basis of the version of Herbert Baldwin Foster, Ph.D. In Nine Volumes, V; London: William Heinemann LTD; Cambridge, Massachusetts Harvard University Press. MCMLV [1955].

Battle of c. 36 BC

"... [Page 398; Internally Page 387]The Jews, indeed, had done much injury to the Romans, for the race is very bitter when aroused to anger, but they suffered far more themselves. The first of them to be captured were those who were fighting for the precinct of their god, and then the rest on the day even then called the day of Saturn.1 And so excessive were they in their devotion to religion that the first set of prisoners, those who had been captured along with the temple, obtained leave from Sosius, when the day of Saturn came round again, and went up into the temple and there performed all the customary rites, together with the rest of the people. These people Antony entrusted to a certain Herod to govern ..." [Page 398; Internally Page 387] - https://archive.org/stream/L082Cassi.../n398/mode/1up

Dio's Roman History VIII

Dio's Roman History with an English Translation by Earnest Cary, Ph.D. on the basis of the version of Herbert Baldwin Foster, Ph.D. In Nine Volumes, VIII; London: William Heinemann; New York: G. P. Putnam's Sons. MCMXXV [1925].

Destruction of Jerusalem; AD 70. [even up to the time of Cassius Dio]

"... [Page 281; Internally 271] Thus was Jerusalem destroyed on the very day of Saturn, the day which even now the Jews reverence most. From that time forth it was ordered that the Jews who continued to observe their ancestral customs should pay and annual tribute of two denarii to Jupiter Capitolinus. ..." [Page 281; Internally Page 271] - https://archive.org/stream/L176Cassi.../n280/mode/1up

all this does is document that Jews who rejected the gospel and continued living under Moses have continued to keep the sabbath.
which is a fact no one questions, at all.

so i don't understand what your intent by this post is?

God winks at peoples ignorance, and salvation isn't about being perfect at keeping a law. But love for God will motivate a true heart to obey God and honour His laws of love. Faith in Christ without works is dead.. So to say i love Jesus and disobey His commands continually is not true faith or love. Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Jesus will do all to make up for our failings, but that does not mean we should continue in sin that grace may abound.
Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
God has commanded all to keep the Sabbath holy. It is our choice what we do with that?