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Magenta

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@tourist

Speaking of the FBI:

Mind Hunter was a good watch. So was the one about the Una Bomber.

Bad Blood was a fictionalized account of Mob control in Montreal. Lots of factual stuff, tho ;)

Not FBI, but I quite enjoyed Wentworth. Blacklist was nowhere near as good.

I would rate Prodigal Son about the same as the latter. Broadchurch and Ozark: thumb's up.

Others based on fact I enjoyed: The Keepers; The Confession Killer; Night Stalker: The Hunt For A Serial Killer; The Serpent; Making of a Murderer; Murder Among the Mormons; This Is a Robbery: The World's Biggest Art Heist; Murder Mountain; Lost Girls & Love Hotels; Bad Sport; Marianne & Leonard; one about Clive Davis; Explained; Undercover; The Puppet Master...

Fiction: StartUp; Secret City; The Code; Deep Water; Paranoid; Outer Banks; Workin' Moms; Dead To Me; Blood Lines; Living With Yourself; Black Mirror; The Movies That Made Us; Better Than Us; Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency; Glow; Salvation; House of Cards; Hit and Run; Fauda...

Just to name a few ;):giggle:
 

17Bees

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See?
Everyone has talents, gifts and abilities.

Now my Dad likes to do leatherwork as well. But his style is very different than mine. He does a much more tooled and western style than I do. He likes large stitches with short runs and I like small stitches with seamless and endless runs. Both are good and get the job done...both are just different.

And if @Lynx wants to visit my bakery one day and play with some sourdough in a production basis....

And then either play some music and sing one way or another I'd be honored. (I do live in Nashville so it's kinda a common thing here to have people singing in a small group setting)
And @17Bees has some awesome woodcrafts going on.
@seoulsearch has the needle point going on....
@melita916 can join in singing....

Everyone has something that they can contribute to the party.

I have a friend who does pottery and clay. I'm definitely going to invite him to sell his coffee cups in my bakery. Maybe a bowl or two.

Because that artistic flair and era of hand crafted beautiful Craftsmanship is coming back finally. The ones where it takes a lifetime to master. And not everyone does.

Anyone can buy a piece of furniture from the store...but to actually purchase one from a true master craftsman? You can't afford it if you have to ask "How much?" Before you commission it. Nor are you even worthy of owning it.

I'm tired of the machine precision cookie cutter garbage out there. That stuff is made for anyone and everyone at an affordable price. But a song sung well for a small group of friends? Priceless!

You may feel and see a hundred tiny flaws that you always wish you could have done better with every time you create...that doesn't mean that your work is bad or worthless...it just means that you are a craftsman.
One of my favorite artist's work is Millet jean-Francois' "The Angelus".



It depicts a man and wife thanking God for the last basket of potatoes dug or maybe the only one at their feet. The picture captures the golden hue of late afternoon light or maybe the clearing skies after a summer storm. The stacked sheafs of an unorganized harvest behind them serve as forefront of a yonder high steeple and town. To me, the painting is a dichotomy of a field and sky of scenic beauty against the grime of hard labor; the mud on their boots, the potato fork stabbed deep.

Millet's body of work was mostly the travails of farmers and of their ordinary work. He painted the mundane and his work fetched very little. He died in poverty. But that's not the end of his story or his value.

About a century later Salvador Dali saw something else in the Angelus. Instead of praying over a basket of potatoes, Dali instead saw a child's casket. They were burying their child, he was sure of it and demanded that x rays were taken to see what was behind the paint. Dali was correct. Millet painted over his original casket of a child with a basket of potatoes. Perhaps those waning clouds hid his own storms after all.

Now the painting hangs in the Louvre. Worth millions. So, I guess @JohnDB was right. The value of our work owns our legacies and reveals our flaws.
 

Magenta

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It depicts a man and wife thanking God for the last basket of potatoes dug or maybe the only one at their feet. The picture captures the golden hue of late afternoon light or maybe the clearing skies after a summer storm. The stacked sheafs of an unorganized harvest behind them serve as forefront of a yonder high steeple and town. To me, the painting is a dichotomy of a field and sky of scenic beauty against the grime of hard labor; the mud on their boots, the potato fork stabbed deep.
Is that the scarecrow laying kaput on the wheel barrow behind them? :unsure:

Sorry, I couldn't resist :giggle:

Loved your synopsis of the painting :D The couple looks very humble, and reverent.

Potatoes were the mainstay of my own farmer father's entrepreneurial market business.

Potatoes, apples, maple syrup, and honey.

I mentioned just the other day how potatoes now sell for $1.99 a pound.

We sold 50 or 75 pounds bags for that much... back in the day :)

PS ~ you have such a lovely way with words...
 

Gojira

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Oh, I tried the direct route years ago.

I sent the couple an email telling them exactly what effect their actions had on me and that I felt what they did was wrong and not from God.

As with many situations I have tried to stand up to in my life, it was met with the sound of crickets. Not so much as a peep or even an acknowledgement in reply. And I'm pretty sure their email still works, because to this day, even though I'd asked them to take me off their list, I still get their generic mass email testimonies about all their ministry.

Maybe by some chance they never read it, though I don't see how, because when I send an email to someone, I include my name in the subject line so they know it's not just spam. But maybe their email service discarded it into a junk folder and they never even saw the headline, who knows.

I just know that I DID try to confront them, but they either never read it or chose to answer with silence.




The patterns have to be bought as they originally were and are not available in PDF form. They are published, much like books, and have been out of print for a very long time. I just looked at a few major sellers and they only have a handful of the original design. Trying to find them is like trying to find a rare book that no one prints.

The woman who designed them put out a new one about every year for about 20 years, I think around 1980 - 2000, plus the Nativity Scene. I am a bit of a compulsive completionist -- back in the day, I had every design up to the current year and was collecting them as they came out. I'm pretty all or nothing in that way. Even if I never stitched them all, I'd want all the patterns. They are now considered vintage and most are very hard to find.

I'd also ideally want to buy them new, and probably 2 of each. The print was very fragile even back then, and unfortunately, they printed the designs right over the folds of the paper, so by the time I would get done with one, some of the design had literally worn off the paper just from regular use. I would want one copy for use, and another to refer to as a backup, as it took me years to finish even one design.

Maybe I can demonstrate how intricate the patterns are:



This is a cover of the beloved camel I had completed that was one of the unfortunate victims of the "spiritual cleansing" I was given. The designs are so detailed that this leaflet folds out into several pages, with each page covering just a section of the design, something like this: (Unfortunately, I couldn't find any corresponding pictures, so this is a bit of a mish-mash.)



Each color and symbol on the pattern is a different shade of thread, and this isn't even one of her most complex designs. You might see the same symbol or pattern repeated, but they will have different colors, so each one represents a different shade of thread that you have to change to every time. In the above picture, the pattern probably has at least 3 more pages to it, and back then, they all folded out like a puzzle, making it very delicate. I don't really want to buy the patterns used because I don't know what kind of condition they'd be in, and even in the secondhand markets, you can't find all the designs.

This is another example of the complexity of just a small part of one of her patterns:



The other issue is that they call it cross stitch, of course, because all of the basic stitches are an X, as you can see here. They also use half, quarter, and three quarters stitches for more dimension and are much more difficult to do. As you can see, because of the square nature, cross stitch designs have a bit of a boxy-ness to them, much like pixels in a photograph.

The fabric you use has various weaves, such as 18 count (18 stitches per inch) or 24 count (24 stitches per inch.) If you choose a fabric with too large of a count (such as the 18,) the design is going to lean more towards looking like the graphics in an old Atari game, and no one wants to put that amount of time and money into a design that's going to turn out looking like Space Invaders.

So, I would need to choose a fabric with a very small stitch size and my eyes don't have the endurance that they used to, as I had completed these projects in my childhood and teens. One of the most frustrating, or challenging things about cross stitch is that you can work for 2 hours and literally only finish a handful of stitches. I don't think my eyesight has that kind of stamina anymore for such finely detailed work.

The other hindrance is the cost. For projects of this magnitude, you need things like a specialty hoop to work with, and then there is the cost of fabric, all the thousands of colors of embroidery and specialty threads needed, and then having them matted and framed under glass (which is a necessity in order to protect all that work.)

These days, my main interests are writing, travel, and, for the long shot dream, early retirement if possible, so that's what's taking up all of my heart and resources for now.

I really do appreciate your encouragement, Goji!

If I ever do go back to the needle arts, I'll probably pick up sewing again, because it produced more tangible results that could be better used to serve others rather than just hanging on the wall.
Wow... what a post.

Umm... all I can say is, you've made your mind up and I'm drop'n it now. I just don't like to see people needlessly lose something that love.

I'm with you on the retirement thing. I do not want the pressure of a job anymore. I'm done. But, I can't.
 

Gojira

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I like to play around with wood working. I'm already set up for it, my dad was .......oh boy. My dad was a lot of things. A carpenter too, but I was always better than him with that kind of thing. It was only fair, he was better at everything else. I guess what I'm saying is I had a good start.

Anyhow, it's been over a year ago I think, I was watching a youtube woodworker - one of these purist guys that use nothing but hand tools like it was 1800 or whatever, so while he worked he kept his tools in his tool box and I just thought it was cool so I made one and hung all my stuff in it. Didn't look as good as his but it works.

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It all comes apart - like the top section comes off, the drawer section too and the bottom is used as a sawbuck.
Excellent.
 

tourist

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#87
@tourist

Speaking of the FBI:

Mind Hunter was a good watch. So was the one about the Una Bomber.

Bad Blood was a fictionalized account of Mob control in Montreal. Lots of factual stuff, tho ;)

Not FBI, but I quite enjoyed Wentworth. Blacklist was nowhere near as good.

I would rate Prodigal Son about the same as the latter. Broadchurch and Ozark: thumb's up.

Others based on fact I enjoyed: The Keepers; The Confession Killer; Night Stalker: The Hunt For A Serial Killer; The Serpent; Making of a Murderer; Murder Among the Mormons; This Is a Robbery: The World's Biggest Art Heist; Murder Mountain; Lost Girls & Love Hotels; Bad Sport; Marianne & Leonard; one about Clive Davis; Explained; Undercover; The Puppet Master...

Fiction: StartUp; Secret City; The Code; Deep Water; Paranoid; Outer Banks; Workin' Moms; Dead To Me; Blood Lines; Living With Yourself; Black Mirror; The Movies That Made Us; Better Than Us; Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency; Glow; Salvation; House of Cards; Hit and Run; Fauda...

Just to name a few ;):giggle:
That is a great list that you provided for possible viewing venues. I will be consulting this list for sure. Since at times it seems that I live in a fantasy world I will be focusing on the fiction particulars first. We are currently wrapping up the Blacklist which is starting to wear on me.
 

Magenta

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That is the panel I designed today :) Prolly not done yet...

Yeah, looking at it now? Those polka spots around the shield have to go :p
 

Gojira

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One of my favorite artist's work is Millet jean-Francois' "The Angelus".



It depicts a man and wife thanking God for the last basket of potatoes dug or maybe the only one at their feet. The picture captures the golden hue of late afternoon light or maybe the clearing skies after a summer storm. The stacked sheafs of an unorganized harvest behind them serve as forefront of a yonder high steeple and town. To me, the painting is a dichotomy of a field and sky of scenic beauty against the grime of hard labor; the mud on their boots, the potato fork stabbed deep.

Millet's body of work was mostly the travails of farmers and of their ordinary work. He painted the mundane and his work fetched very little. He died in poverty. But that's not the end of his story or his value.

About a century later Salvador Dali saw something else in the Angelus. Instead of praying over a basket of potatoes, Dali instead saw a child's casket. They were burying their child, he was sure of it and demanded that x rays were taken to see what was behind the paint. Dali was correct. Millet painted over his original casket of a child with a basket of potatoes. Perhaps those waning clouds hid his own storms after all.

Now the painting hangs in the Louvre. Worth millions. So, I guess @JohnDB was right. The value of our work owns our legacies and reveals our flaws.
Compositionally sound. Amazing how his dark head stands in such contrast to that bright background, but does not "fall off" the canvas. I've seen people try hard contrasts like this, and it fails miserably. That's not all, but it was the first thing that stood out to me.

Compositional literacy is almost non-existent in today's "art". Very few exceptions, like Tina Bradford and Kent Wallis.
 

Magenta

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Making exceptionally appealing women!!
I didn't do much to her... added a nose and mouth, removed a bow from the back of her dress,
changed the flower in her hair, color corrected it. It originally started out looking like this:




But she looked too happy for the verse, so I changed the verse to what it is now, and then everything else changed too.

It is crazy how much they change from start to finish, huh? LOL

I will still work with that ^ figure, though. She is a friend of a friend's girlfriend. Well, the face is, anyways ;)

I think I am done with this one now :D


2 Corinthians 10:4 plus Matthew 24:6
 

Gojira

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If God ever says "Who would you like to design your ideal mate?" I think your name may come up :)
 

TabinRivCA

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As far as hobbies go...
It's insane.
I am a cobbler of necessity and desire.
A perfect example is my tool bag.
I needed a new one...and knew what I wanted. But what I wanted was horribly expensive and not really what I wanted. So I learned leather craft. And made it myself. My skills and wants and desires to make other products for various people has grown...so I can now do all kinds of things. Purses and bags and clutches and books.

I am also an electrician...I can wire up anything and have been involved in changing the Nashville skyline.

I also am a formally trained chef.
Worked in some of America's finest restaurant and hotels. (Currently I'm partnering with someone to build a bread bakery and coffee shop...it's not easy)

I also enjoy woodworking... looking forward to retirement so I can build a workshop and fill it with tools and wood. I was able to build my dining room table.

Bible study...went way off the deep end with my library. I don't just own the books but I've read my library of resource materials. Then I bought a now non existent software package...very expensive but filled with over 300 volumes of resource materials.
History, anthropology, archeology, vocabulary, terminology, geography, and climatology as they relate to scripture as well as grammar and idioms and literary devices and numerology and dozens of artistic flair in scripture with their writing. (That rabbit hole goes deep)

Model trains? Yep.
My computer programming skills are out of date...
I'm currently working on coffee roasting skills.
I still hold a class B CDL.

I can still sew and use a blind stitch machine.

It's a lot of necessity and desire...lots of things to learn and do....I've enjoyed every minute of all of it.

One day I'd like to build a car
Coffee roasting skills....have you ever put a small amt of salt in with the grounds before brewing? It curbs the bitterness and enhances the flavor.
 

JohnDB

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Coffee roasting skills....have you ever put a small amt of salt in with the grounds before brewing? It curbs the bitterness and enhances the flavor.
Nope...
If I want something with less bitterness I go with a lighter roast and use Arabicas beans.
That's something used by people stuck with generic coffee. (In the 1950's)
Today there are a huge varieties of coffee from all around the tropical band. From Mexico to Honduras to Brazil and Columbia and Africa and Vietnam. (And all points in between)

All produce various flavors.
Arabicas beans are actually the best. They have the most complex flavors in one bean. Robustas are simpler flavors and usually the least expensive. They are usually roasted and blended to mimic Arabicas beans. What I am learning is to how to go about roasting and tasting to determine the art and science of roasting coffee. (It's a bit of BOTH)
So when you get a cup of coffee roasted by me...it tastes unique and uncommon and not like a cup produced by a computer (Starbucks)