Ukraine and Russia: Truth and Propaganda

And then again Taiwan could be just a little piece of candy at the moment to China in that after SWIFT and the island it has Russia on all they would need to do is wait,,,,,,,and then stop exporting all goods from China to Europe and the US and instantly we would no longer have 300.00 dollar 55 inch tv's at Walmart,Kmart,,,no more Dollar stores and no more 3M mask for a dollar. We would then need to reverse things like us making 20.00 an hour and outsourcing our manufacturing back to 3.65 an hour or less. In short if China waits,,then stops sending us the stuff they manufacturer with slave labor then it will crumble everyone's economy but China's. So Taiwan,,,why not dominate the earth?

Ukraine was once one of the oligarchy of the USSR. In fact it was considered the crown jewel of the USSR power.
Putin wants it back.
Sure they have had issues with corruption...they were once part of Russian isolationism.

However...things have changed...and been changing. They were cleaning up the corruption but by bit. Sure a few people were wanting things to remain as they always have been.
And the Russian disinformation campaigns have been going full tilt for over two years now. Many people in this thread are repeating that nonsense verbatim. If it wasn't so easy to spot it would be of a better quality.

Russia has been planning this for the last four to five years under Putin. He was waiting for Trump to leave office and he then had the hiccup of Coronavirus. But he used his disinformation campaigns to create mask and vaccine fears. (It didn't help much)

Ukraine was increasing it's alliance with western civilization through trade and trade agreements...it didn't want to trade as much with Russia because the money was lousy. (Indeed they have some great products at great prices including computer chips)

The Ukrainians themselves are actually the most valuable resource there. Highly educated and skilled population. And as their trade with Europe evolved it was coming out of poverty. Which is what was Russia's biggest fear. It wants access to those goods as well. Without them Russia is no better than Saudi Arabia...a single product country. Ukraine's unemployment was dropping with every new trade deal.

So... Russia has been working heavily towards annexation of Ukraine.

However, most of the people there are tired of Russian influence. They usually are a peaceful people. But now due to Russian brutality they are forming civilian militias. This is going to cause occupation instead of annexation. Another Afghanistan for them. (They failed under Carter when they invaded Afghanistan and Carter almost pushed the big red button)

Same story here...
Sure there's a lot of short term stuff that makes for headlines. Ignore it. The end of Russia is coming. The sanctions, air flight restrictions, and shipping is getting cut off. They are going to be impoverished and broke. When soldiers don't get paid they don't follow orders. And very very soon Russia is going to be broke. Watch the gold market... Russia is dumping gold to shore up the Ruble...when it reverses and they begin to buy gold they will be in real trouble.

You can't impose a blockade on Taiwan if the US keeps the shipping lanes on the East coast open, hence my point concerning the three navies of Japan, the US and Australia

If. How will the alliance keep shipping lanes open without going to war?

and we do not have one.

Whoa! Whoa! You are talking about a guy who drove an 18 wheeler, worked in the coal mines, stood up to Corn Pop, freed Mandela from prison, and who has had 30 years of foreign policy experience, knows both Xi and Putin like they were his sugar daddy, the same guy who was going to crush the pandemic.

He brought dignity back to the White house, no longer do we have mean tweets at 3am, in fact he has put a complete silence on any communication from the Whitehouse after 5pm.

And don't even get me started with all the things he had to overcome from the last administration. Afghanistan -- Trump's fault, rise in oil prices that was anticipatory knowing that Putin would invade all because of Trump, the invasion of our Southern border, again blame that on Trump (requires Psaki to explain this one, I'm not that advanced in spinning the truth).

You should go over to Blacklisted News and see beyond the curtain of Western propaganda.

Correct. Putin is a KGB thug. And no matter what excuses he may present, he has attacked a sovereign country to grab it. Had there been (1) a genuine strong president in the USA, (2) a serious defense pact among the countries West and Northwest of Russia, and (3) a sincere desire in the West to stop Russian aggression, there would have been to war in Ukraine.

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No it is not. BIG DIFFERENCE. Missiles in Cuba would have been for attacking the USA. Missiles in Ukraine would be strictly for defense. Does anyone imagine that Ukraine has any designs on the annexation of the Russian Federation?

Also Mitt Romney calling Tulsi Gabbard a treasonous traitor for wanting to investigate doesn't necessarily mean he was trying to cover this up. Maybe he was just having a bad day.

Seriously? Giving Romney the treasonous traitor the benefit of the doubt? There is not one thing which Romney has done which is not injurious to America. Just like Lindsey Graham giving Biden a pass while attacking Trump? Just like McConnell helping Biden throw trillions away without a murmur. This is the core issue in the USA. The people who should be resisting the destruction of America are actually helping its enemies.

What about tanks in the Ukraine?

Maybe that's what the fighters were doing stirring up the Texans in Austin today. It's going from clandestine troops and billions of tax dollars stollen from Americans and given to the dancing queen of Ukraine; to a transition moving to NATO which includes the US military.