DOES THE HOLY SPIRIT INSTRUCT US TO BE CLOTHED IN PUBLIC?

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kaylagrl

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2Kings18:21: "Now, behold, thou trustest upon the staff of this bruised reed, even upon Egypt, on which if a man lean, it will go into his hand, and pierce it: so is Pharaoh king of Egypt unto all that trust on him".

Ukraine & Europe should repent from trusting in useless reeds called NATO & USA. Instead they should trust in Jesus. Jesus is chastening Ukraine.

High gas prices and inflation, let's tackle that. I have a lot more questions after that.
 

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If the knowledge of good & evil wasn't forbidden, why did God forbid them from choosing that knowledge?
You would have to ask God. God forbade Adam and Eve from eating of that tree. If they obeyed God in that regard there would be no need for them to be aware of the knowledge of good and evil because, before sin, everything was good. You write about this in every post in this thread and others. Why is this so important to you?
 

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You said babies commit evil acts! I said evil acts are different from the forbidden knowledge of good & evil.
No, you are the one that said that babies commit evil acts. All I asked was what specific evil acts did babies commit.
 
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No, you are the one that said that babies commit evil acts. All I asked was what specific evil acts did babies commit.
Babies commit the act of Adam and Eve who stayed unclothed in God's most holy presence which is evil when seen through the forbidden knowledge of good & evil.
 
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You would have to ask God. God forbade Adam and Eve from eating of that tree. If they obeyed God in that regard there would be no need for them to be aware of the knowledge of good and evil because, before sin, everything was good. You write about this in every post in this thread and others. Why is this so important to you?
Can any problem be solved without addressing the sin of choosing the forbidden knowledge of good & evil violating God's command in Genesis 2:17?
 
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High gas prices and inflation, let's tackle that. I have a lot more questions after that.
High gas prices and inflation are due to disobeying God's command in Genesis 2: 17 & choosing the forbidden knowledge of good & evil. So repentance is firstly needed.
 

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There was a nudist guy who was on this site before he didn't think there was anything wrong with everyone walking around naked. He said he did in his home and yard but hopefully not went he went to the shops.
 
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There was a nudist guy who was on this site before he didn't think there was anything wrong with everyone walking around naked. He said he did in his home and yard but hopefully not went he went to the shops.
DID ADAM & EVE EXPERIENCE GUILT AFTER CHOOSING THE KGE?
They were already unclothed in God's most holy presence. So why should they experience physical shame? What they experienced was moral shame & moral shame is another word for guilt.
 

Ruby123

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Ok they experience guilt, now what? Where do we go from there, what are you trying to say passed the fact they felt guilty?
 
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DID ADAM & EVE EXPERIENCE GUILT AFTER CHOOSING THE KGE?
They were already unclothed in God's most holy presence. So why should they experience physical shame? What they experienced was moral shame & moral shame is another word for guilt.
Dont think so...we are given white robes of righteousness. Read the story of the wedding guest.
 
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None of us ever again can present their selves naked for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
 

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Is OP a nudist?

well John the baptist, who was full of the Holy Spirit, did say if you have two coats, give one away to someone who has none.

Probably so they could wear it.
 

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Can any problem be solved without addressing the sin of choosing the forbidden knowledge of good & evil violating God's command in Genesis 2:17?
Exactly, how did you choose the sin of forbidden knowledge of good and evil? Really, I have no idea what it is that you are trying to get accross.
 

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If the Spirit or scripture instruct us to be clothed in public why didn't the Spirit or scripture instruct Adam and Eve to be clothed in public in God's most holy presence?
the scripture connects nakedness to the exposing of one's shame.
before they had sin, they had no reason to be ashamed.
they clothed themselves because they were ashamed - insufficiently ((of course))
however when they confessed their sin and looked to Him, God gave them garments able to cover their shame, through the shedding of blood. innocent blood, poured out for the forgiveness of sin.


substitutionary atonement :)

only God can provide such a covering -- 'can a man give his life a ransom for his soul?'
 

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God created Adam and Eve without the moral compass named the knowledge of good and evil.
the Bible does not say comprehension of moral choice is forbidden.
God forbade eating of the tree - He did not forbid wisdom, or knowledge, or understanding
God did not create us to be ignorant or to despise knowledge.
God does not call ignorance, lack of wisdom, lack of understanding or lack of discernment "good"


one of Satan's lies speaking to Woman was that God had purposefully created her as a fool and wished to keep her from having wisdom.
whenever you find yourself agreeing with Satan, it should raise a big red flag.
 

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Sometimes I wonder if the sin was not so much the act of eating from the tree but partaking of the knowledge of good and evil by listening to the devil's manipulation of questioning what God had said therefore entertaining wisdom/knowledge of good and evil. Before they heard from God and believed. Then when the devil tempted they almost heard a different side (an evil one, that seemed appealing to them and were tricked into) and they partook of it. Maybe once we only knew good, what God had said. We didn't know of anything evil and then our eyes were opened and it has been downhill since. That's why we have to renew our mind to the word of God and get rid of wordly thinking that we are entrenched with. I don't even know if that makes sense. I am not the best at explaining things and I tend to see things from a different angle to the norm.
 
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High gas prices and inflation are due to disobeying God's command in Genesis 2: 17 & choosing the forbidden knowledge of good & evil. So repentance is firstly needed.

China and Taiwan, what should we do there? And North Korea is acting up. What's the answer there.