Is it the Christian's responsibility to fight "territorial spirits?"

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ResidentAlien

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These days warfare against territorial spirits—especially among the New Apostolic Reformation—has become a pretty big deal? Is there a scriptural basis for this, anyone know? I don't recall ever hearing the phrase "territorial spirit" mentioned in scripture, much less any instruction or teaching for believers to occupy themselves with such things.
 

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These days warfare against territorial spirits—especially among the New Apostolic Reformation—has become a pretty big deal? Is there a scriptural basis for this, anyone know? I don't recall ever hearing the phrase "territorial spirit" mentioned in scripture, much less any instruction or teaching for believers to occupy themselves with such things.
They may be referring to principalities. Satan has a hierarchy. He is unable to be everywhere at the same time, unlike God. There are high level fallen angels that rule geographical areas. Those with discernment can tell. A friend of mine went to Canada for a while. He said that he could immediately tell the difference when he crossed the border into the USA.

It is necessary to deal with these powers. To be fully effective, the local churches need to quit fighting each other and turn their attention to the ruling Satanic forces. I've read testimonies where a city has been transformed by Christians fighting the true enemy. Where I live had a reputation for being rough. Now it is nowhere near as bad. I suspect that it could be even better if the church locally would unite. (Psalm 133)
 
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Live4Him2

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These days warfare against territorial spirits—especially among the New Apostolic Reformation—has become a pretty big deal? Is there a scriptural basis for this, anyone know? I don't recall ever hearing the phrase "territorial spirit" mentioned in scripture, much less any instruction or teaching for believers to occupy themselves with such things.
The concept of "territorial spirits" more than likely comes from portions of scripture such as this:

Daniel chapter 10

[1] In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
[2] In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
[3] I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
[4] And in the four and twentieth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, which is Hiddekel;
[5] Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
[6] His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
[7] And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves.
[8] Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength.
[9] Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground.
[10] And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands.
[11] And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling.
[12] Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
[13] But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
[14] Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.
[15] And when he had spoken such words unto me, I set my face toward the ground, and I became dumb.
[16] And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips: then I opened my mouth, and spake, and said unto him that stood before me, O my lord, by the vision my sorrows are turned upon me, and I have retained no strength.
[17] For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me.
[18] Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me,
[19] And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for thou hast strengthened me.
[20] Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.
[21] But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.

Here, Daniel had apparently been fasting and praying for three full weeks.

An angel of the Lord appears to him and notifies him that he was sent unto him from the first day that he had set his heart to understand and chasten himself before God, "but the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days".

This "prince of the kingdom of Persia" could rightly be called a "territorial spirit" in that he apparently was overseeing or governing the affairs of the kingdom of Persia in the spiritual realm.

So strong was this opposition that this angel needed the help of "Michael, one of the chief princes" or the archangel in order to ultimately break through.

This angel then went on to mention how he "remained there with the kings of Persia" or with other demonic forces.

in the spirit realm, it seems that a "prince" is higher than a "king".

In any case, these were definitely demonic or angelic beings who were engaged in combat against each other.

This angel then mentioned how he not only had to "return to fight with the prince of Persia", but also how eventually "the prince of Grecia" or Greece "shall come".

Of course, after the Medo-Persian kingdom came the kingdom of Greece, so, again, there were apparently some sort of "territorial spirits" or angelic beings overseeing the same in the spiritual realm.

The angel then concluded by mentioning "Michael your prince", with the "your" being directly related to Israel/Jerusalem.

With such in mind, we should also consider that there is coming another major battle in the spiritual realm which will usher in what the Bible calls the "great tribulation".

I'm referring, of course, to this:

Revelation chapter 12

[7] And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
[8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
[9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
[10] And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
[11] And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
[12] Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
[13] And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
[14] And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

When Satan and his angels are cast down to this earth (their normal place of residency is the heavenly realm), then he will "come down...having great wrath, because he knows that he has but a short time". This "short time" is "a time, and times, and half a time", or 3 1/2 years, or the actual duration of the "great tribulation".

Daniel foretold of this time when he wrote:

"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. " (Daniel 12:1)

Again, notice that this "time of trouble" begins when "Michael stands up, the great prince which stands for the children of your people".

Anyhow, this is where the concept of "territory spirits" more than likely comes from.

I hope that this helps.
 

Edify

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I totally agree, L4H2. It has been my personal observation that such spirits rule over communities, cities, even whole countries. I also believe these spirits will dominate more as the Holy Spirit is gradually taken out of the way. It's because of these spirits that the US has become liberal, even violent at times.
Folks don't realize how powerful they will become when the Antichrist steps on the stage. There will be "princes" in every country.
I remember years ago my family had to move to the projects. I didn't feel it as it gradually built momentum. But, when we moved out we could definitely tell the difference. Even our kids felt it.
 

ResidentAlien

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I agree there are territorial demons and spirits. But my question was: Is it our responsibility to bind or fight them? In all of the New Testament I don't recall ever hearing of this. We're told to pray, to trust Jesus and the Father, preach the good news. My question is: What is the scriptural basis for this teaching?

Even if you subscribe to the idea of casting demons out out of people, that's not the same as binding a territorial demon.
 

NotmebutHim

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Interestingly, I watched this video yesterday. It is on the YouTube channel "LongforTruth1", hosted by Daniel Long and his wife Robin. The video tackles the subject of territorial spirits and how we as believers should (or not) deal with them:

 

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I agree there are territorial demons and spirits. But my question was: Is it our responsibility to bind or fight them? In all of the New Testament I don't recall ever hearing of this. We're told to pray, to trust Jesus and the Father, preach the good news. My question is: What is the scriptural basis for this teaching?

Even if you subscribe to the idea of casting demons out out of people, that's not the same as binding a territorial demon.
Ephesians 6:12 this might be your answer. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
 

ResidentAlien

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Ephesians 6:12 this might be your answer. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
If you look at the context of this passage it's about defensive measures and preaching the gospel, not banishing or binding territorial demons/spirits:

"Finally, my brothers, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the full armor of God, so that you may be able to stand against the stratagems of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual forces of evil in the heavenlies. Because of this, take up the full armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having accomplished all things, to stand. Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking up the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the flaming arrows of the evil one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; through every prayer and petition, praying in every season in the Spirit, being watchful to this same thing with all perseverance and petition concerning all the saints—and for me, that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel, for the sake of which I serve as an ambassador in chains; that in it I may speak boldly, as I must speak."
 

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I agree there are territorial demons and spirits. But my question was: Is it our responsibility to bind or fight them? In all of the New Testament I don't recall ever hearing of this. We're told to pray, to trust Jesus and the Father, preach the good news. My question is: What is the scriptural basis for this teaching?

Even if you subscribe to the idea of casting demons out out of people, that's not the same as binding a territorial demon.
yes you hit on it , we just stick to the truth that the lords made clear. that is how one fights against those powers. To stay with the way truth and life

The ultimate goal of the evil In this world is to turn our ears away from the truth of the gospel that saves those who accept it. The territory thier interested in occupying is inside our hearts and minds where the kingdom is meant to be
 
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Live4Him2

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I agree there are territorial demons and spirits. But my question was: Is it our responsibility to bind or fight them? In all of the New Testament I don't recall ever hearing of this. We're told to pray, to trust Jesus and the Father, preach the good news. My question is: What is the scriptural basis for this teaching?

Even if you subscribe to the idea of casting demons out out of people, that's not the same as binding a territorial demon.
I don't believe that it's our responsibility to somehow bind them.

In the first example that I gave, what facilitated the battle in the heavenly realm was Daniel's prayers.

In other words, Daniel himself wasn't binding anyone or anything, but rather just praying to God.

A battle ensued as an angel attempted to come to him in answer to his prayers.
 
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Live4Him2

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I totally agree, L4H2. It has been my personal observation that such spirits rule over communities, cities, even whole countries. I also believe these spirits will dominate more as the Holy Spirit is gradually taken out of the way. It's because of these spirits that the US has become liberal, even violent at times.
Folks don't realize how powerful they will become when the Antichrist steps on the stage. There will be "princes" in every country.
I remember years ago my family had to move to the projects. I didn't feel it as it gradually built momentum. But, when we moved out we could definitely tell the difference. Even our kids felt it.
Before I became a Christian, I had many vices, and one of the worst was that I was a compulsive gambler to the max. With such being the case, I frequently was found in such places as racetracks and gambling casinos.

After I became a Christian, God delivered me from that addiction.

Anyhow, many years after I became a Christian, I had to drive through Atlantic City, NJ, where there are many gambling casinos, in order to reach the destination that I was heading to.

As I got closer and closer to Atlantic City, I absolutely felt a heavy demonic oppression attempting to come over me while seeking to entice me to go and gamble.

I believed then, as I still believe now, that there was some sort of "territorial spirit" or spirits over that area.
 

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If you look at the context of this passage it's about defensive measures and preaching the gospel, not banishing or binding territorial demons/spirits:

"Finally, my brothers, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the full armor of God, so that you may be able to stand against the stratagems of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual forces of evil in the heavenlies. Because of this, take up the full armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having accomplished all things, to stand. Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking up the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the flaming arrows of the evil one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; through every prayer and petition, praying in every season in the Spirit, being watchful to this same thing with all perseverance and petition concerning all the saints—and for me, that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel, for the sake of which I serve as an ambassador in chains; that in it I may speak boldly, as I must speak."
You might have a point there. I guess the word "struggle is not against " or "stand against the devil's schemes. " could be about defense.
In the context of the whole chapter "sword" seems to be an offensive thing. Sure you you can block with a sword defensively but it is more effective to use a shield. To cast out demons does not sound defensive. The word against is pros in Greek [Str. 4314] The word struggle is palē in Greek [Str. 3823] "to fight" KJV "for we wrestle( fight) not against (toward). Therefore, using the Sword of the Holy Spirit to fight toward all the evil badies.
 

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If you look at the context of this passage it's about defensive measures and preaching the gospel, not banishing or binding territorial demons/spirits:

"Finally, my brothers, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the full armor of God, so that you may be able to stand against the stratagems of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual forces of evil in the heavenlies. Because of this, take up the full armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having accomplished all things, to stand. Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking up the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the flaming arrows of the evil one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; through every prayer and petition, praying in every season in the Spirit, being watchful to this same thing with all perseverance and petition concerning all the saints—and for me, that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel, for the sake of which I serve as an ambassador in chains; that in it I may speak boldly, as I must speak."
Indeed, the only offensive part of the armor is the Sword of the Spirit: the Word of God.
 
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Never heard of territorial spirits nor the New Apostolic Reformation. I would be wary of a group with a name like that, it immediately evokes to memory the verse about Satan's apostles. Since it is unclear who these people are and what their strange doctrines of demons are referring to and whether or not they have been deceived into Satan's Kingdom of the Lies, no, it is not your responsibility.
 
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I totally agree, L4H2. It has been my personal observation that such spirits rule over communities, cities, even whole countries. I also believe these spirits will dominate more as the Holy Spirit is gradually taken out of the way. It's because of these spirits that the US has become liberal, even violent at times.
Folks don't realize how powerful they will become when the Antichrist steps on the stage. There will be "princes" in every country.
I remember years ago my family had to move to the projects. I didn't feel it as it gradually built momentum. But, when we moved out we could definitely tell the difference. Even our kids felt it.
"as in the days of Noah, so shall it be at His Coming"
 

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Territorial spirits just sounds like rebranding stuff to make it look cool and new. Live4Him2 covered a good connect between territorial and authority in Daniel a few post above.
 
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Live4Him2

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I think that this video gives a pretty good description of the nature of our battle in both the heavenly and earthly realms:

 
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Indeed, the only offensive part of the armor is the Sword of the Spirit: the Word of God.
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand
 

arthurfleminger

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I totally agree, L4H2. It has been my personal observation that such spirits rule over communities, cities, even whole countries. I also believe these spirits will dominate more as the Holy Spirit is gradually taken out of the way. It's because of these spirits that the US has become liberal, even violent at times.
Folks don't realize how powerful they will become when the Antichrist steps on the stage. There will be "princes" in every country.
I remember years ago my family had to move to the projects. I didn't feel it as it gradually built momentum. But, when we moved out we could definitely tell the difference. Even our kids felt it.

Edify, you say, " It has been my personal observation that such spirits rule over communities, cities, even whole countries. " Exactly when did you make these personal observations? Exactly what did you observe?