Praying for Satan. Can we? Should we?

Yes I agree, Satan is extremely ignorant, evil, rebellious, blind and arrogant. But so was I for a long time. I turned people away from God like a true Pharisee making them twice as much a son of hell as I was. Yet one day God had mercy on me and imparted His grace to me ever since. God loved me His emeny. I can truly say the those who are forgiven much (by God), loves (God) much.

Yes the bible contains very limited information as it only contains up to 81 books at most, so it has lots of gaps in it of course. So though one could use the bible (the greatest book on the planet by far in my humble opinion) as a reference tool it is not exhaustive in its content. Even in relation to 1 man and what He got up to during His lifetime (33 years as a human). John 21:25
I once came to the same conclusion as you Eli1... The essence of the Bible says that there’s no hope for Satan and he will be cast in fire. But I see another greater overriding factor, the God Who goes far beyond what any or every human could have ever recorded in trillions of scrolls or books. I have a personal relationship with Him and I have had the privilege to get to know Him personally and this unfolding knowledge and experiencing of Him is fantastic. God's loving kindness to all and everything in Him is amazing to say the least. I know now that in Him exists all things and all will be eventually restored to their God ordained state, even Satan. How absolutely brilliant is our God and Creator. I love Him soooo much in the knowledge of Who He is.

Gideon, just wondering if God told you this, 'There is no plan of salvation for fallen angels and the devil'? I haven't ever read this in the bible to start with nor heard God speak this to me personally. Maybe He did to you. I'd be interested in your response.

I guess I often barrack for the underdog, feel compassion for the down trodden and the poor in my community. I see Satan as one who can never win against my Father. He is outnumbered, outsmarted, extremely under resourced to take on His Creator and even come remotely close to making any erodes into undermining my Father's kingdom. Do I feel for such a being? Yes I do and more than that, I want him to experience what I have. The redeeming love of His Creator, the love of God as he once in eternity did. The restoration of this relationship would be my greatest hope, I think, at this point in my relationship with my Creator and Father.
So YES, I have personally asked God to show the magnitude of His mercy and grace towards Satan on numerous occasions.

Is it possible that the God and the Creator of the angels has a different plan of redemption for them should they require it?

That's a great question Bee.

Satan can't be redeemed by the blood of Christ. John 3:19
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. Tell your friend to pray for the lost in Satan not Satan.

Food for thought:

If it is wrong to pray for Satan because his final destination is known, doesn't that also mean that it is wrong to pray for humanity as a whole? (We know that a portion of humanity is also destined for the LoF.)

He saw it coming?

That's not really a correlation to the charge of strange fire.

Eternity is difficult to grasp as it is not governed by time. What is foundationally true is seen in the eternal and then witnessed in the fullness of time. Being ”the Lamb that is slain from the foundation of the world” is a positional truth that establishes the plan of God and, in this case, frames the entirety of creation.

Barnes is off and has difficulty understanding eternity.

No. It means God knew man WOULD SIN and He established man’s reconciliation before he made him.

Did you know that the devil assigns watcher demons to people? Especially Christians who have strong faith. The idea behind this is that they get to watch your life and find ways to cause problems for you. Or listen to your prayers and find ways to undermine them. This might sound incredible, but it’s true.

bible doesn't speak on it and i honestly dont care about angels.

No sir, this is a discussion about Satan in specific. There is no hope for him. Also I don’t know how God Judges things and I’d never want to be in that position.
For example, I’d like to think that Hitler will burn in Hell but I don’t know.

But we do Know enough from the Bible to tell us that there’s no hope for Satan.

Looks you are enjoying The Lord brother and I am too. Hallelujah and God bless you.
I also approach God from a love based emotion and not fear based.
But I also like to think that he is also Just and he is also Truth. Which means that the greatest deceiver Satan, will pay for his wrongdoings.
I also like to think that evil people throughout history like Hitler will pay too for the suffering they caused.
I don’t know how God judges things and I don’t ever want to be in that position but as far as Satan goes I don’t think there’s any hope for him.


Of course is wrong to NOT pray for humanity. Humanity is not the same as Satan. These are two completely different things.

We may not be able to identify which are tares and which are wheat, but the concept would still remain that humanity as a whole is a mix of the two, and by scripture there is no hope for the tares. Wouldn't it then follow suit that if we shouldn't pray for Satan that we should also not pray for humanity as a whole?

But humanity is not angels that’s why the logic doesn’t follow.

Yes I believe both Hitler and Satan will pay for their wrongdoings. And I equally believe that both will be shown mercy and experience God's grace some time in eternity. But what time they'll do for their crime is known by God the loving Judge.

Yes, i understand this principal of eternity not subject as we are in this realm.
That HE was actually Slain before HE came to earth is not given any credence from Scripture (that i know of).
Furthermore when the LORD speaks a Truth, HE then establishes that Truth for us in the mouth of Two or Three Witnesses.
There is no other Witness in Scripture that Testifies to Christ/Lamb of God suffering TWICE.

There is Testimony Witnesses that Elohim can and does Speak of Things BEFORE They come into Existence as if They already Exist.

#1 Witness: as it is written, “I have made you a father of many nations”) in the presence of Him whom he believed—
God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did;

#2 Witness: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

#3 witness: "slain from the foundation of the world" Rev 13:8 i see this as it is, untouched. Where 'foundation of the world' speaks of Creation and not from Eternity Past. When Elohim set in Order His Will from the Beginning.
This Witness is in Genesis chapter 3. Genesis is the 'foundation of the world' and of all Truth that follows = Comes Forth from

i can speak more on this but not now.

This i know of you, you are able to examine Scripture with/by Scripture. Not all are able or willing to do this.
So please let me know, only from Scripture, where there is another Witness that would speak of a Spiritual Slain Lamb BEFORE HE came to earth = from Scripture only.

My heart rejoices in Truth for i am a truth-seeker of and by the Word. Therefore i look to see that i may SEE and for that Blessing i will always bow my knee.