Uvalde, TX School Shooting

never mind you clearly are not able to understand Shooter was 18 he was angry he did not graduate. He killed his grandmother
Sandy hook was 20, he was angry and killed his mother went to her school, and shot her classroom students. SMH

Really? You might want to try looking into the Buffalo shooting. The school referred that kid because of threats he made in an english assignment.

Yes, of course it is "rare". How often does a kid in school come and shoot up the school? Didn't happen in Sandy Hook, didn't happen in Texas, those people were not in the school at the time.

Sandy Hook -- Lanza was a 20 year old college student. Please explain how the Sandy Hook Elementary school could have prevented this by "not hiding information about him".

Boulder (Columbine?) -- the shooting was from students who had been bullied. As a result of this shooting nationwide campaign to address and deal with bullying in schools was rolled out. I attended multiple trainings (Professional development and school meetings) every year discussing what we were doing. It was very high priority ever since the Boulder shooting.

Parkland -- Nikolas Cruz was expelled from the school the previous year. We still don't know why, but that means he must have done something very serious that the school dealt with in a very serious way (extremely difficult to get expelled these days from a public high school) and whatever he did was not criminal and was never in a public court. Again, you don't tell us what more a school is supposed to do. Since we don't know why he was expelled or anything more at this point it is baseless to assume that the "hidden information" is the key since we don't know what it is. By the way, he was 16 when he was expelled. Do 16 year olds have the right to privacy? Can they sue if you destroy their reputation? Just to put this into perspective, 2,600,000 students get expelled every year. So yes, perhaps 1 out of 10 million will come back to attack the school in some way. But you want to slander all 10 million? What exactly will that accomplish? Now perhaps 10 will be angry enough to come back to shoot up the school?

Not in school but they all had serious warning signs and despite documented mental problems they also had run ins with the law. Often times they tell people before they go on a rampage. But like the link I posted, there is no profile for a mass shooter but we have plenty of circumstantial evidence or micro agressions that when added up points to a potential problem that needs to be evaluated by a professional very quickly. If deemed a threat to self or others they should be held in the psych ward for further evaluation and investigation. If proven to be a threat, they should be barred from buying a gun for a certain amount of years. Once that time is up, if the individual has improved and now a productive citizen then they should be allowed to have their 2nd amendment rights back. If not then they are barred again.

Not in school but they all had serious warning signs and despite documented mental problems they also had run ins with the law. Often times they tell people before they go on a rampage. But like the link I posted, there is no profile for a mass shooter but we have plenty of circumstantial evidence or micro agressions that when added up points to a potential problem that needs to be evaluated by a professional very quickly. If deemed a threat to self or others they should be held in the psych ward for further evaluation and investigation. If proven to be a threat, they should be barred from buying a gun for a certain amount of years. Once that time is up, if the individual has improved and now a productive citizen then they should be allowed to have their 2nd amendment rights back. If not then they are barred again.

I will,

cause and effect as I stated. the shooter of the sandy hook was suffering from many cognitive issues that were hidden by his mother and the current school he was going to before he was 20. The mother also a teacher purchased the guns for him KNOWING her son had issues. from his letters and emails and texting, there is much to see and read about his mindset. The shooter's school prior to his leaving because of age documented many disturbing things.

1. he was disruptive to his class so much that they took him out and placed him in a lower grade level for the day. This happened repeatedly with no action to correct the bad behavior. He went through the school system with no help just appeasement. after he was out of School and clearly NOT prepared he became very angry at his overly protective mommy, and decided to fixate his displeasure on his mother and her school. Then took his own life. The school system and politicians shouted guns guns guns!!!!

When the cause was not guns, it was the effect of poor parenting, not addressing serious issues, BUT hiding them. Then create a false narrative so schools don't have to answer for it as they hide behind "minor laws" that help them keep A LID ON THIS.

I have already pointed out that 2,600 kids are expelled each year, you can assume that they are expelled for bad behavior. For every kid expelled it seems you would have 100 that schools try other approaches with first (like moving them to a different class, etc). So it is probably safe to assume that 200,000 kids are written up for bad behavior each year.

My issue is with the comment that schools are hiding information on children which if made public would help identify potential shooters before the event.

Obviously anything someone posts on social media is already public. Of course Facebook and law enforcement should be monitoring that.

Again, I know that killers have warning signs before hand. They torture animals, so it could be that parents would know about that and should treat it seriously and get psychiatric help for your kid, but doubt they would want to make any issues with their kids public. If a mental health professional is made aware of threats of violence to others they can warn the police. But the idea is you want people to feel they can talk freely to a psychiatrist.

Yes. My question is you have said that the school's hiding information was an issue. Presumably you have some change in policy you are recommending. What should the school have done differently with this kid?

As you pointed out they documented everything, they changed his classes. What else were they supposed to do? How do you "correct bad behavior"?

I have already pointed out that 2,600 kids are expelled each year, you can assume that they are expelled for bad behavior. For every kid expelled it seems you would have 100 that schools try other approaches with first (like moving them to a different class, etc). So it is probably safe to assume that 200,000 kids are written up for bad behavior each year.

this is a fact, how many shootings were done by those people who were let out by judges who knew they had done serious crimes? Last week a man was let out by a judge who raped women and went and did it again.

Lawlessness as I said.

That should be 2,600,000 kids expelled each year, and at least 20,000,000 kids written up for bad behavior each year.

2600 kids is a drop in the bucket. the reason for expelling where many of them are in another classroom or in the office at a desk. the dress codes are not enforced, they tell teachers to "F" off they even attack and assault teachers. And remain in school.

Yeap, just like the man not too long ago who was fleeing from the police and used his SUV to plow through a parade. Laws do nothing when not enforced, law enforcement isn't funded, public healthcare facilities are poorly managed due to government influence, or due to high crime the prison systems are maxed out in occupancy due to rise in crime and limited staff.

Listen,

parents will get in trouble IF their student doesn't go to school. BUT Parents don't have to deal with discipline issues that require the student to be home. 6-10 teachers experience violence in school from students.

I corrected that in the post prior to you posting this. It isn't 2,600 it is 2,600,000.

Yes, and?

and I said the 2,600,000 are the effects of wrong behavior not the cause of it. Your point is mute.

My issue is with the comment that schools are hiding information on children which if made public would help identify potential shooters before the event.

Obviously anything someone posts on social media is already public. Of course Facebook and law enforcement should be monitoring that.

Again, I know that killers have warning signs before hand. They torture animals, so it could be that parents would know about that and should treat it seriously and get psychiatric help for your kid, but doubt they would want to make any issues with their kids public. If a mental health professional is made aware of threats of violence to others they can warn the police. But the idea is you want people to feel they can talk freely to a psychiatrist.