Do you observe the Sabbath?

Sorry, but the context of Romans 14 is about the ceremonial days and menu items of the Mosaic Law, not the Sabbath of the Ten Commandments.

Colossians 2:16
English Standard Version
Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.

Berean Study Bible
Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a feast, a New Moon, or a Sabbath.

Berean Literal Bible
Therefore let no one judge you in regard to food, or in regard to drink, or in regard to a feast, or a New Moon, or Sabbaths,

King James Bible
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Sabbath days. That would include the weekly Sabath day.
It is up to each of us to choose our Sabath day or days.
Runningman
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Tuesday at 3:27 AM
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Just curious if anyone observes the Sabbath. It seems like some people do and some people don’t, citing a variety of reasons.

Are there any clear commands to observe a Sabbath rest on the seventh day of the week? Which verses? I ask because I see there are clear commands to observe some of the 10 commandments, but I can’t find anything about Jesus or one of the apostles commanding anyone to keep the Sabbath.

Personally I don’t observe Sabbath day of rest as of right now, but I’ve considered it and I’m not opposed to it.

Also, if you keep the Sabbath, what do you do and don’t do on your Sabbath day of rest?

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I take it that he is asking about the weekly Sabbath day. That is what Romans is talking about.

Really what does it matter we are to serve Jesus everyday. Are we to get more Holy on one day than another.

What you call "iniquitous" I call 1 John 2:3-4 KJV. I suggest you get to know that verse.

Stop turning grace into lasciviousness, as Jude describes OSAS.

God never made all 7 holy - we can't "keep" holy that which has never been "made" holy, right or wrong?

I heard a preacher say one time the way we keep the Sabbath day holy is doing what the commandments says: rest from working...so if a person says they keep every day holy, they themselves are not holy, they're lazy

Colossians 2 is talking about ceremonial "sabbath" yearly Feast Days, not the weekly Sabbath of the Ten Commandments, proven by the following:

1) Paul's list refers to ceremonial things: meat offerings, drink offerings, new moon (used to calculate ceremonial observances), holy days (Purim, Jubilee year commencement), "sabbath days" (ceremonial yearly Feast Days were called "sabbaths" in Leviticus 23)

2) Paul's list was of "shadows of things to come" pointing to the coming Messiah which is exactly what those yearly "sabbaths" were -- however, the weekly Sabbath is no shadow, but a memorial to our Creator God who created all things in six days and rested the 7th at a time before sin entered the world when there were no spiritual shadows and all was light.

3) Paul says what was nailed to the Cross was "against us" meaning against the Jews. The Ten Commandment law, including the weekly Sabbath, is not "against" anyone because it contains blessings and promises. What was "against us" is found in Deuteronomy 31:24-26 KJV - the Mosaic Law, which was written by the hand of Moses while the Sabbath commandment was written by God; the Mosaic Law was placed outside the Ark separate from the Ten Commandments which were inside the Ark, and the Mosaic was called "a witness against thee".

I'm reposting the opening statement because I want to ask "How many Sabbaths (plural) are there in one years time according to scripture?". How many Sabbaths are Holy Days? How many holidays are not scriptural but are traditions?

In typical, stupendously absurd fashion, Posthuman asserted that the singular word "sabbath" in Colossians 2:16 KJV proves Paul referred to the singular weekly Sabbath as being what was nailed to the Cross, as a counter argument to my claim "sabbath" refers to the plurality of yearly Feast Day sabbaths.

Despite the fact that the passage:

• speaks of ceremonial things of the Mosaic Law which the weekly Sabbath is not;
• that Paul identified this nailed law as "against" the people, which Moses plainly said was his Mosaic Law written by his hand and placed on the outside of the Ark while the stone table were inside;
• and that Paul spoke of "shadows of things to come" which refers to the Feast Days which pointed to a future Messiah while the weekly Sabbath is a memorial to the past when God created everything in six days and rested the seventh;
• and also the "singular" reference to "the man of God may be perfect" is believed by no one to refer to just one single man;

...he remains unconvinced. Proof positive that people can walk aimlessly in error, trip over the truth, pick themselves up and continue along as if nothing happened.

Observing a special rite on a specific day is by definition a 'ceremonial' activity.

Sigh...you see what we have to deal with folks? It's like an immature teenager who resorts to nonsense simply to avoid not having the last word.

Surely, when we all hear "Mosaic ceremonial law" what we think of are those Plan of Salvation "shadows of things to come" which include meat offerings, drink offerings, circumcision, Purim, Jubilee commencement, Passover, the other Feast Days...with which the weekly Sabbath - a memorial pointing to the past in a time before sin when all was light and no spiritual shadows existed - had nothing to do.

I hope Posthuman realizes we'll be keeping the Sabbath day for all eternity and if he's not pleased with that notion, I suggest he soberly considered the only other alternative.

You don't even know if I keep sabbath or not, because I haven't said.



cer·e·mo·ni·al
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adjective
1.relating to or used for formal events of a religious or public nature.

When Christ died on the cross, the veil to the Holy of Holies was rent. That means that we now have direct access to God our Father. In John 4: 20-24 the Samaritan woman asks Jesus if men ought to worship on that mountain or in Jerusalem. Jesus reply was that the time will come when true worshipers will worship in neither place but will worship in Spirit and in Truth. You can worship together in one place or you can worship at home alone or with family members and friends. Every day is the Lords and should be included in our lives.

[QUOTE="Grace911, post: 4873043, member: 277291 "How many Sabbaths (plural) are there in one years time according to scripture?". How many Sabbaths are Holy Days? How many holidays are not scriptural but are traditions?[/QUOTE]

Are all Holy Days shadows of things to come?

how about a simple yes or no for observing the sabbath? and this answer should embody love.

It is true that there will be no more darkness, no more night - He will be our light, in an eternal day.

Are all Holy Days shadows of things to come?[/QUOTE]

Wave sheaf day of the barley was the Sunday after Christ resurrection and John_20:17 Jesus saith unto her (Mary), Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Mat_27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Mat_27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

What do you think happened to those who came out of their graves on wave sheaf day?

Lev_23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
Lev_23:12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD.

Eph 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
Eph 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Could the 24 elders mentioned in Revelation be those saints who came out the graves when Jesus came out the grave?

Rev_4:4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

When is the next resurrection (ie Rapture)? Is it any day or will it be on one of the appointed Feasts Days of Leviticus 23? Will it be another harvest time? Will it be the Wheat?

John 4:35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.

Did you know Shavuot/Pentecost is four months before Feast of Trumpets? Why does God call these Feasts Days convocations?

You are so right. That is my point also in a shorter answer and better put

I agree that the religus
I agree the religious laws, ect were done away with but Jesus said that He came not to change one dot, not one tittle of the law(the 10 commandments) This is why I said you may choose one day to honor' or no days to honor, I choose to honor all 7 days. When the old testament Law talked about the Sabath thaat included the weekly Sabath

The law is a lot more than just the decalogue; the law is all 5 books of Moses. The 10 commandments aren't even the basis of the law - all the law is built on two things that aren't part of the 10 commandments, things outside of the ark, in the scrolls Moses wrote. Deuteronomy 6 and Leviticus 19.

He said this: "I say to you amen, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled"

He also will make a new heavens and a new earth, and He also came to fulfill the law.

it is not so simple as people who want to judge us over sabbath make it to be.

That's like saying the farmer doesn't know if the henhouse is safe from the fox if he leaves the door open

me·mo·ri·al
\ mə-ˈmȯr-ē-əl \
1: serving to preserve remembrance